Global population rates still exploding!

ourworldindata.org...


While researching another post I ran across the present population rate and then looked up a couple charts that covered the growth over the years..


The present population is 7.7 billion. I personally remember when we were charging toward 7 for sure, but we crossed 6 billion in my life time as well.


We have raised the population rate by 25% in just the last few decades..


That is crazy.


It took humanity 100s of thousands of years to millions of years to reach 6 billion people, and we will get to 8 billion in about 40 years.


That seems unsustainable to me.

Earth can sustain 20 billion humans at peak efficiency, by the numbers, but that means we eat sustainable foods. (Large livestock is a no go, here.)

Think high protein, low mass. Insects, just vegetation, ocean organisms.

I've seen data that corroborates this point.

Eating cows and pigs etc... Starts to hit sustainability issues, economically, near 10 billion. It becomes impossible at 20.

a reply to: Archivalist

I do not doubt it..


So at the present rate of 2 billion per 40 years...

So what ??

6 x’s 40 = 240 years... and that is without any growth..


You can likely cut that in half.

You’ve gotta love our little blue marble. It’s the energizer bunny of impending doom .

1968 Paul Ehrlich’s Book “the population bomb” .

The population is spinning out of control. Soon man will exceed the earths natural resources. Famine, disease, mass migration, social upheaval, chaos and DEATH ...DEATH ...DEATH ... !!!

1978 Leonard Nimoy “In search of” Climate change the coming ice age. Inhabitable areas of the world decrease, overpopulation, famine, social upheaval, disease, mass migration and DEATH ...DEATH ...DEATH !!!


2006 Al gore A inconvenient truth . Global warming Sea levels rise popular bowl areas of the world decrease, mass migration, famine, social upheaval, chaos, Disease and DEATH ...DEATH ...DEATH ...!!!


All of which leads us directly to the true prophet’s words .

“ There’s a sucker born every minute “

PT Barnum

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a reply to: Fallingdown

Climate change is VERY easy math.. that is the only reason there is such wide spread consensus.


CO2 holds heat more efficiently than the other relevant atmosphere gases.. very easy to verify..there are BS at home experiments you can do..


We are producing a butt load of CO2..


The time frame and scale are hotly debated.. no one agrees on that.. however the base theory is VERY EASY MATH.

Conservative media goes out and publicized the most extreme predictions, from the most extreme models and then pretend “see they are all in a vast conspiracy to “.. idk.. no theory on motivation I have heard would cover the cost of maintaining the conspiracy..

B) so what is your theory??

That the Illuminati is lying about the population rates?!?!

Again that is very simple addition and multiplication to figure out the population growth rate..

The world was overpopulated by the time we crossed 1B people.
We're capable of improving ourselves, but instead we focus our energy on destroying eachother... while simultaneously encouraging the dumbest of our species to breed unchecked- we even bankroll them in the US so they can focus on just that.

We're simply locusts- and when the natural resources that sustain our rapid population growth are depleted we'll eat eachother.

a reply to: JustJohnny

First of all I wish there was a tongue in cheek forum because that was my intention with that reply . 😊

My position is the climate does and has always changed. I have agreed for years that the planet is getting warmer. However I think the trend is minuscule .

I am extremely skeptical that man is the cause.

But I am absolutely certain that even if we were the cause there’s not a damn thing we could ever do to correct it on our end.

We simply can’t put that bullet back in the barrel .

I give my opinion on MM global warming regularly and loudly. It’s a tool the liberals use to control the population especially the younger generation.

It’s a bold face lie and a complete con job. No different than Jim Jones, Charles Manson or David Koresh. It has nothing to do with the environment but everything to do about power .

If the left attain’s the power to implement even a quarter of what they want to do in the green deal. They will take over the US economy which is their goal.

I try to no longer debate the data end of this discussion because it is irrelevant. It’s all politics and it’s all about power and their implementation has been both evil and brilliant so far.

The left is force-feeding their dogma to our children behind our back‘s and have been doing so for a while. If in the near future the karma cactus catches up with them and they’re despicable corruption of our youth is exposed.

I would be very easy to find. Because I would be the guy with the huge smile at the bottom of the gallows passing out the nooses.

a reply to: JustJohnny


Ummm...dude...didn't you get the memo...

That's what war...famine...and pestilence are for...

A few more World wars will pare that figure down quite nicely don't you think...?

I mean...just think about it...the way the political divide is turning into a chasm here...there...and everywhere...there's bound to be at least one powder keg moment that sparks...Viva La Revolution...and voila...instant population reduction...

Or...just keep on keeping on with the post birth abortion craze...and time will tell...it surely will...

I thought that was the leftist plan...#byanymeans...







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a reply to: JustJohnny

Looks like the Masonic Depopulation Agenda needs more funding.

The world isn't over populated though. Certain regions are over populated though. The reality is the less developed parts of the world are breeding like rabbits on viagra whereas birthrates in the the western 1st world are stagnant or declining. Sure India or China might be bursting at the seems, but that is a purely a cultural issue.

Major urban areas may be "over populated." However, you can easily go out into rural areas and not see a soul.

a reply to: JustJohnny

Soylent Green anyone?

i am by means no wheres rich. i make less than 40k a year.
no kids!

and i can do anything i want.

i think you should only have kids if you make enough money to do so.
lets say i wanted kids, i would want 20k PER kid more in income.

now i can make more money, its just a matter of 'work' (i am an artist)

but unless im making millions, i am not having kids. i have too much fun doing anything i want any time of the day.

a reply to: dantanna

Only the elite should breed?

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: dantanna

Only the elite should breed?

No, but you shouldn't have kids if you can't afford them....

originally posted by: dantanna
i am by means no wheres rich. i make less than 40k a year.
no kids!

and i can do anything i want.

i think you should only have kids if you make enough money to do so.
lets say i wanted kids, i would want 20k PER kid more in income.

now i can make more money, its just a matter of 'work' (i am an artist)

but unless im making millions, i am not having kids. i have too much fun doing anything i want any time of the day.

That income is totally affordable for families if cards are played right. The problem is you greedy little s$s who can't deal without the newest "things" to shower your kids with (they do NOT cost 20 grand a year, I have two and know this firsthand) They will only run you that much in expenses if you're maxing out the tech purchases and utterly unnecessary activities like paying for highly overpriced 2 week kiddie summer camp with funds that could take the whole damn family camping for a month somewhere. Use your freakin' head.

Edit: To put this into perspective for Dantana's claim, by his/her excess expectations, we should be spending almost $800 EVERY SINGLE WEEK OF THE YEAR on our two kids.

Every parent on here is free to collapse to the ground gasping for breath between laughter fits now.

a reply to: Edumakated
Naaah, when all the poor people have had no kids and there's no one to come and unblock your sewerage pipes (as these are the jobs poor people do) then you'll all be shouting "let the poor people have kids cos we don't want to clear the sh## pipes".
It takes all sorts to make a society, poor and rich alike.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: Edumakated
Naaah, when all the poor people have had no kids and there's no one to come and unblock your sewerage pipes (as these are the jobs poor people do) then you'll all be shouting "let the poor people have kids cos we don't want to clear the sh## pipes".
It takes all sorts to make a society, poor and rich alike.

Or mow their own damn yards. It seems in my neighborhood, once you crack $70k-ish for household income, you're too good to work a push mower yourself anymore & hire people to pay as cheaply as possible. Old farts who aren't ambulatory/strong enough to do it themselves anymore are exceptions to that, but the folks across the street, up the street & down the street who pay someone to mow their yards for them every week? Didn't used to be too good to do it. Now they crack a beer & watch the guys mow, WTF.

The population levels are nowhere near unsustainable. I can't look for it at the moment but there was a study a decade or two ago that came to the conclusion that if the entire worlds population were put into a single city, that city would fit into Texas and then the entire rest of the planet could be used for food and resource production.

The problem isn't the number of people - it's the way that most of us live that's unsustainable and will ultimately have to change. We're wasteful creatures really. Just think about the amount of trash that you individually generate in a week. How many times you let a tap run for the water to heat up or for the warmer water to clear a line. How many usable objects you throw away because they've lost their shine or got superseded by a newer, just slightly better model.

I'm not preaching because I'm as guilty as anyone else. I just have this irritating hang-up that causes me to notice it when I'm being wasteful. It usually doesn't stop me but over time it has caused me to be more aware and to adapt a bit.

Global warming factors into the same concept. I disagree that it's a hoax or a librul plot. But even if I did think that it was exaggerated or even a wholesale fiction - I'd still think "Maybe I should at least adapt a smidge, you know, just in case I'm wrong? I mean I kinda like to think that my great great grandkids will have a shot at not dying in some nightmare fuel, desert, pollution riddled dystopia".

But maybe that's just me.

a reply to: JustJohnny

That seems unsustainable to me.

Depends on who you ask

www.bbc.com...

As it stands now, though, the world's population is over 7.3 billion. According to United Nations predictions it could reach 9.7 billion people by 2050, and over 11 billion by 2100.

Population growth has been so rapid that there is no real precedent we can turn to for clues about the possible consequences. In other words, while the planet might hold over 11 billion people by the end of the century, our current level of knowledge does not allow us to predict whether such a large population is sustainable, simply because it has never happened before.

What is urgently needed, then, is ways to speed up the decline in fertility rates. One relatively easy way to do so might be to raise the status of women, especially in terms of their education and employment opportunities, says Steffen.

Got'a wash it all down with something.