“Scientist” Michael Mann Loses in Court, Mr. Hockey stick Forced to Pay Court Costs

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Hockey Stick Broken! “Scientist” Michael Mann Loses in Court, Forced to Pay Court Costs — Global Warming Hoax Hit Hardest

I have posted threads about climate Alarmist fudging and just out right lying about temperature records. Start a graph during a cool period and show a dramatic increase in temperature graphically; the article shows a graph which has been used for such B.S...

Of course the normal alarmist people on this site come out and try to defend the fudged figures. Well, one of the biggest Alarmist, Mr. Hockey Stick himself (Michael Mann) has just lost in a court of law an will have to pay court cost and maybe be facing a criminal investigation !! I hope so as this just might send a message to the other fraudsters !

Dr. Mann defied the judge presiding over the case and refused to surrender his data for “open court examination”. This is routine practice for scientific study to determine if the results will stand up against examination. But Dr. Mann refused to turn over his data.

Heck no he would not turn over his data because it was FAKE and manipulated for an agenda !

79-year-old Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball is the defendant in the libel trial and told his attorneys to “trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud”.
Even back in 2017 scientists knew the defeat of Dr. Mann would only vindicate President Donald Trump in his claims that climate change is a hoax. The graph below from Principia Scientific shows “Mann’s cherry-picked version of science [that] makes the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) disappear and shows a pronounced upward ’tick’ in the late 20th century” – this is the blade of Mann’s now infamous “hockey stick”.

Ooops mention President Trump and the haters will come out in full force to no doubt back Dr. Mann even though he is a proven fraudster..

www.technocracy.news...

Mann had sued Ball for daring to publish the damning comment that Mann“belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State.” Dr Ball brilliantly backed up his exposure of the elaborate international money-making global warming scam in his astonishing book, ‘The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science‘. In his books, articles, radio and television appearances, Dr. Ball has been resolute in his generation-long war against those who corrupted the field of science to which he had selflessly dedicated his life. Now aged 79, Ball is on the cusp of utter vindication. Despite the stresses and strains on himself and his family, Tim has stood at the forefront of those scientists demanding more openness and transparency from government-funded researchers.

I doubt any of this will show up on CNN or MSN outlets.

Dr. Ball has many videos but here is a short one youtu.be...

a reply to: 727Sky

I have a really stupid question, why do both Israeli and Iranian scientists both say the exact same thing with regards to climate change?

These people hate each other, so they obviously can't be coluding, right?

From what I can see here the court case doesn't prove anybody right or wrong, it's just about access to data, yes?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: 727Sky

I have a really stupid question, why do both Israeli and Iranian scientists both say the exact same thing with regards to climate change?

These people hate each other, so they obviously can't be coluding, right?

From what I can see here the court case doesn't prove anybody right or wrong, it's just about access to data, yes?

Climate change is all about one world government and doing away with Nationalism IMO. Only a world government can manage the climate according to them.

The only model that has even come close to reflecting the actual observed temperatures is a Russian model from what I have heard..

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: 727Sky

I have a really stupid question, why do both Israeli and Iranian scientists both say the exact same thing with regards to climate change?

These people hate each other, so they obviously can't be coluding, right?

From what I can see here the court case doesn't prove anybody right or wrong, it's just about access to data, yes?

Maybe the data is not conveniently available right now as said data might have “cough” been accidentally bleach bitched?

Erm... I meant “wiped clean with a cloth and a bit of bleach”.

Have a lovely day😃

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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: 727Sky

I have a really stupid question, why do both Israeli and Iranian scientists both say the exact same thing with regards to climate change?

These people hate each other, so they obviously can't be coluding, right?

From what I can see here the court case doesn't prove anybody right or wrong, it's just about access to data, yes?

Because climate change is 100% real. It's called nature. Of course climate change exists. The problem is that naturally occuring climate changes are being packaged up as our fault, for which we must pay taxes to make it better. Fraudsters are paid well to propagate the lies and the complicit media conspire with them to isolate anyone who tries to speak the truth. Money talks and you don't have enough to be on the 'right' side of the argument. The winners are the rich and powerful, who fly private jets and buy $15m ocean front properties, whilst you and I pay them for it so that they might save us.
Climate Change hoaxers are a clear and present danger to humanity - not climate change itself.
It's way past time that all the fraudsters are indicted for the most massive con against the people of the world since the fractional reserve system was implemented.

a reply to: 727Sky

Climate change is all about one world government and doing away with Nationalism

Dont forget money for the UN
Like oil for food and UNICEF
Same Scam , Different Name

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Follow the money.

They are the actual real world underpants gnomes.

Step 1: Create problem, or in this case, find existing natural phenomena they can make into a "problem".

Step 2: Create solution involving enhanced government power, control, and collection of taxes.

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Profit

Step 3, btw, is where the problem is solved by Step 2. Notice how the solutions always involve iron control of everything you say or do, how you live, and how much money you can have, government intruding right down to setting your thermostat for you while you sleep because obviously, no one needs to be comfortable while sleeping ... and more. That money gets transferred to government to do ... things that are always poorly explained. And no one ever explicitly tells you how any of it will directly affect anything to do with the problem itself. All you know is that if you will voluntarily make yourself miserable for the global wealthy elite to play with like so many paperdolls, the world will magically be saved!

This all makes me highly skeptical.

If you're intending on saving the world from catastrophe, hiding your data on the grounds it's your intellectual property, it would seem to me at a minimum your priorities are completely out of order.

@ "Climate change is completely natural" - not when its happening simultanously in very, very large areas of earth.

@ "Keep Calm and continue!": Indonesia is seriously(!!) planning to build a new capital, as the old one is in danger to sinking.

Indonesia has announced plans to move its capital from the climate-threatened megalopolis of Jakarta to the sparsely populated island of Borneo, which is home to some of the world’s greatest tropical rainforests.

President Joko Widodo said the move was necessary because the burden on Jakarta was “too heavy”, but environmentalists said the $33bn relocation needed to be carefully handled or it would result in fleeing one ecological disaster only to create another.

As well as dire problems of pollution and traffic congestion, Jakarta suffers from severe subsidence, which makes the coastal city extremely vulnerable to rising sea levels.

Source

And last but not least: I like having clean water and clean air with less polution. But you do yours. Maybe think about your kids and grandkids, they might have some questions in the future aimed at your denial.

micheal mannn blocked me on twitter lol. i forgot what i posted, but i replied to one of his comments.

that is typical of people (like him) these days.
they do not have the b@lls to debate, if you do not say things in agreement, you are not just wrong, they block you.

ive had friends block me on social media lol.

a reply to: 727Sky

Good to know that fraud & deceit will be exposed!

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time"

Abraham Lincoln

a reply to: AaarghZombies

What are the "Iranian climate scientists" reporting precisely? Do you have a link to some of their published articles?

a reply to: ketsuko
Modern medicine and psychiatry follow this same model. Ever notice how there are countless drugs to treat conditions, but almost nothing that focuses on actually curing the problem? Because if you can get somebody locked into a regimen of "maintenance drugs," then you've got a steady revenue stream. But if you just cure the problem, it's only a one-time sale.

Similarly, modern psychiatry tends to want to classify every personality quirk as some kind of mental problem. The solution, of course, is regular therapy sessions, that will go on as long as you afford it. Because there's a lot more money in that than if you focus on actually solving the underlying issues that are causing someone's problems.

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
@ "Climate change is completely natural" - not when its happening simultanously in very, very large areas of earth.

@ "Keep Calm and continue!": Indonesia is seriously(!!) planning to build a new capital, as the old one is in danger to sinking.

Indonesia has announced plans to move its capital from the climate-threatened megalopolis of Jakarta to the sparsely populated island of Borneo, which is home to some of the world’s greatest tropical rainforests.

President Joko Widodo said the move was necessary because the burden on Jakarta was “too heavy”, but environmentalists said the $33bn relocation needed to be carefully handled or it would result in fleeing one ecological disaster only to create another.

As well as dire problems of pollution and traffic congestion, Jakarta suffers from severe subsidence, which makes the coastal city extremely vulnerable to rising sea levels.

Source

And last but not least: I like having clean water and clean air with less pollution. But you do yours. Maybe think about your kids and grandkids, they might have some questions in the future aimed at your denial.

This has absolutely nothing to do with some idiot governments allowing business to pollute rivers and poison their citizens. This is about a climate scientist who falsified data to achieve an outcome. You want to see pollution out of control look at a few places in India and China !

There are many places where the coastal land mass is subsiding and other places where the land is actually rising ......the big boys claim it is all because of the spring effect from the last ice age. If you look at Sydney Australia from 1914 until now the sea level is static or has decreased.. The sea level has not changed but the land mass has. There are other places with the same results .. One thing about earth nothing is static ...it only seems that way due to our short life spans and record keeping. Plenty of videos and papers showing how some land masses are sinking and others are rising...Bangkok is also sinking and no wonder from the billion of tons of building material built upon a swamp... youtu.be...


Much of the alarmist publications with regards to sea level rise is coming from satellite data which is just about useless when trying to measure sea level changes by a couple of milometers but Golley Gee Whiz satellites are big science and funding is great; never mind for sea level rise, they are worthless IMO.

CO2 is .04% of the earths atmosphere or presently about 410 parts per million.. When the CO2 level drops below 350ppm the plants start having a hard time surviving thus if you look at the current crop yields they are up DO TO CO2.. But lets tax business and do carbon credits for it will generate big bucks for the few but do nothing with regards to earth's climate.

My only heart burn with all this stuff is the fiddled numbers that so called climate scientist have been caught doing. Why ? What purpose ? Remember the Green new deal AOC has tried to push ? It is all about socialist control of a given population,,,welcome to the dreams of the NWO..

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Human-caused climate change has always been a fraud, to allow unethical people to get money on fraudulent basis.

From the court case are the graph of two climatologists, honest Ball who submitted his raw data, and Mann the crook who refused to do so:


www.technocracy.news...

Mann falsely attempted to remove known historical events like the medieval warm period and jury-rigged his data to produce the now-debunked "hockey stick" used by MSM and politicians to try to stiff us and control us with carbon taxes and credits/ Green New Deals.

1. Never trust a scientist in any field unwilling to supply raw data - basis of modern peer review

2. Never trust blowhard gropers like Gore and ignorant Cocktail waitresses like AOC that push global warming drivel.

a reply to: 727Sky

I keep saying that the rest of Science, that I participate daily, we look at the data and follow it where it leads. We don't lead it where we want you to follow.

None of what you've posted proves anything other than they are moving their city, and you are concerned about your grandkids.

Take them out for an ice cream cone. If driving your hybrid helps you feel better, that's nice. Confirmation bias is a bitch, id love to see some data that isnt riddled with it on the subject. a reply to: ManFromEurope

a reply to: M5xaz


That medieval warming period is fascinating to consider. The Vikings first settled Greenland during that warming period. "Greenland" was probably not an inaccurate name when Erik the Red first landed. Many years later, falling temperatures and advancing glaciers drove European settlers away.

All of this pales in comparison to to temperatures back in the age of the dinosaurs. There was land at the North Pole back then, and it was habitable, with winters that were not too severe for dinosaurs and other reptiles to endure.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: M5xaz


That medieval warming period is fascinating to consider. The Vikings first settled Greenland during that warming period. "Greenland" was probably not an inaccurate name when Erik the Red first landed. Many years later, falling temperatures and advancing glaciers drove European settlers away.

All of this pales in comparison to to temperatures back in the age of the dinosaurs. There was land at the North Pole back then, and it was habitable, with winters that were not too severe for dinosaurs and other reptiles to endure.

Yes but all those truths are highly inconvenient to scammers that want to extra carbon credit indulgences from us and dingbat cocktail waitresses that want to be "in charge" and feel self-important with their idiotic green new deals.

originally posted by: loam
If you're intending on saving the world from catastrophe, hiding your data on the grounds it's your intellectual property, it would seem to me at a minimum your priorities are completely out of order.

Not to mention that if the world is indeed on the brink, instead of cap and trade, there would just be cap. Its just another way to bilk money from the masses.