Trying to resolve 9/11

a reply to: neutronflux

Then cite and quote what what is false.

My thinking I can help?

a reply to: kwakakev

Now part two.

So. How does Richard Gave have any credibility at this point? Why are you trying to change the subject.

After falsely pushing photos of cut columns during cleanup as cut by thermite?

a reply to: kwakakev

Your not “losing” because there is something to lose. Richard Gage lost the argument for you when he was caught in his falsehoods.

a reply to: neutronflux

Richard Gage lost the argument for you when he was caught in his falsehoods.

How was his argument about the iron micro spheres? You have failed to convince me of any other reasoning. I am still waiting, only have a life time remaining.

a reply to: kwakakev
You shouldn't use micro spheres as your foundation for a conspiracy.
Any event of any size will always have things that don't make sense.
Ex: Why do the shoes always come off the riders in a motorcycle crash?

You need to take in the totality of all the events.
There is just too much evidence to support the OS.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: neutronflux

Richard Gage lost the argument for you when he was caught in his falsehoods.

How was his argument about the iron micro spheres? You have failed to convince me of any other reasoning. I am still waiting, only have a life time remaining.

Not surprising by somebody that will not answer the below.

So. How does Richard Gave have any credibility at this point? Why are you trying to change the subject.

After falsely pushing photos of cut columns during cleanup as cut by thermite?

Or by somebody making false claims such as:

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: kwakakev

Or is it another falsehood by you?

a reply to: kwakakev

You

Your dishonesty is distressing to imply Richard Gage wrote a letter by Rich Lee.

Quote where I made such a post..

So? Your lying about what I posted?

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Where you will not answer the below which was asked before you started on about iron micro spheres which are made by many process, and not exclusive to thermite.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: kwakakev

I didn’t ask about the debunked work of the Architects and Engineers for Truth. What an oxymoron. Especially the truth part.

Instead of seeing the WTC through some ones created fantasy, I asked:

Do you have proof of planted pyrotechnics cutting columns?

The collapse of the twin towers is right there in the video, audio, seismic record.



Oh may. What do I see for the twin towers...






The core columns fell last in long segments. Proving Richard Gage wrong and fallible. And pushing a false narrative.


What was that about fire related failures being impossible.

Well, WTC 5 documented failures proves that wrong.








Funny I can go straight to the “evidence”. While yours is presented through a “filter”.

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While you ignore.......

And.......

You still have no proof of columns cut by pyrotechnics.

There is no evidence of columns being cut by pyrotechnics from the video, audio, seismic evidence.

You still have no explanation how the triggering system could survive being hit by debris, and hours of fire to actuate as needed for the controlled demolition fantasy.

The thermite “findings” were never submitted by Jones for independent third party verification. So the “studies” are as valuable as bull crap.

And we haven’t even gotten to the accounts of the NYFD of WTC 7 showing signs it would collapse from fire damage.

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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: kwakakev

Read this....

“Debunked: Iron Microspheres in 9/11 WTC Dust as Evidence for Thermite

www.metabunk.org...
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If you find anything you think is false from the thread, quote it and provide evidence.


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Long story short, AE 9/11 Truth / Richard Gage killed their credibility long ago.

a reply to: kwakakev

The iron micro spheres are not from thermite because there is zero evidence of thermite fueled fires. It really is that simple.

you started on about iron micro spheres which are made by many process, and not exclusive to thermite.

I agree. Thermite is one way to turn steel support structures into iron micro spheres. Did the NIST report discuss these iron micro spheres and what caused them?

If you do not want to consider thermite as the source of these iron micro spheres, then what do you propose cause it and what evidence do you have?

a reply to: kwakakev

Because there was no cut columns by pyrotechnics.



See the picture of the collapse. No cut columns. whole lengths of core columns tumbling over after losing lateral support from the failure of the floor system. The core fell last. No signs of sparking or slag from thermite burning. No signs of hundreds of thermite charges setting off causing hundreds of thermite fueled fires burning over 3000 degree Fahrenheit.

With Richard Gage using pictures of columns cut during cleanup to push the falsehood of thermite.

Sorry. There is no evidence of cut columns.

a reply to: neutronflux

It is an interesting photo there. Watching the whole video, these beams do appear to vaporize as the steel beams turn into iron micro spheres. So far we have thermite as one option that can do this. Where did the heat come from?

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: neutronflux

It is an interesting photo there. Watching the whole video, these beams do appear to vaporize as the steel beams turn into iron micro spheres. So far we have thermite as one option that can do this. Where did the heat come from?

Your delusional. There is zero evidence of “evaporation”. There is no indication of thermite burning. The photo clearly shows whole lengths of core columns tumbling outward. The twin tower steel columns where numbered and identified during cleanup. Pictures of columns clearly showing broken welds. No accounts of missing structural steel from being evaporated. Steel from the areas jet impacts recovered and examined.

a reply to: kwakakev

Like how you ignore: With Richard Gage using pictures of columns cut during cleanup to push the falsehood of thermite.

Richard Gage is a charlatan.

a reply to: kwakakev

How would thermite “vaporize” Iron or steel?

Boiling point of Iron. 5198 Fahrenheit. Steel is a little less.
www.engineeringtoolbox.com...

Thermite burns at at4000 Fahrenheit. So how would thermite vaporize whole columns?

a reply to: neutronflux

How would thermite “vaporize” Iron or steel?
Boiling point of Iron. 5198 Fahrenheit. Steel is a little less.
Thermite burns at at4000 Fahrenheit.
So how would thermite vaporize whole columns?

Good question. What was the source of this heat?

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: neutronflux

How would thermite “vaporize” Iron or steel?
Boiling point of Iron. 5198 Fahrenheit. Steel is a little less.
Thermite burns at at4000 Fahrenheit.
So how would thermite vaporize whole columns?

Good question. What was the source of this heat?

The statement was there was no source of heat to evaporate steel. It’s like? I don’t know. If a particle of steel, iron, rust, or iron oxide found in paints have sufficient surface area to the actual amount of material will burn when exposed to an office fire. You know where a jet or building collapse would knock of rust, small particles of steel, and paint while it was on fire.

Steel and iron will burn in a normal atmosphere with sufficient surface area to mass when exposed to a flame well below the boiling/evaporation point of steel/iron. Is that false.

a reply to: kwakakev

And it’s still a proven fact Richard Gage is a known charlatan. One of the best examples is his using photos of columns cut with thermal lance during clean up presented as false evidence of thermite.

Your backing a known charlatan.

a reply to: kwakakev

The other thing you have to understand, something can be hotter than the boiling point of steel. But if it doesn’t have the energy to get the steel past the requirement of latent heat of boiling, it still will not evaporate whole pieces of steel.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: neutronflux

It is an interesting photo there. Watching the whole video, these beams do appear to vaporize as the steel beams turn into iron micro spheres. So far we have thermite as one option that can do this. Where did the heat come from?

It was not just the beams that appeared to vaporise......it was the whole tower.
It doesn't turn into vapour as such it appears to turns to dust which looks like smoke.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Until they hulled the structural steel off truck load by truck load to fresh kills land fill, and identified the columns by there manufacturering numbers. Any proof of core / vertical columns not accounted for?

I know. Your innuendo game is more fun than reality.

What do you suppose the grey stuff was?
Was it dust or smoke?