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originally posted by: ketsuko
I'm not sure I'd want to send my kid to a school in a DMZ just to score diversity points on his SATs, not even for one year, because that would be part of it.
It's one thing to buy a house there and either homeschool or spring for a private school, but it's another to send your kid to one of those failing systems.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: dug88
Then it's hardly a test of intelligence and more like a means-tested socioeconomic credit score.
Fact is soon all your kids will require to attend your universities is a pencil.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
The way I understand it, the score is still supposed to be the primary judging factor with this "adversity score" providing more context. Let's be fair, it's more impressive if a kid that has to take care of their siblings all the time because their single mother is working three jobs scores a 1600 than a kid that has the best tutors and unlimited resources who scores a 1600.
That said, the SAT is an outdated concept. Most schools don't put much weight on it at this point. It's just an excessively expensive test that allows College Board to continue to justify their existence.
originally posted by: Wildbob77
I also think that many colleges and universities are going to find themselves obsolete and/or useless because they are only interested in the politics of a situation and not interested in teaching critical thinking
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
The way I understand it, the score is still supposed to be the primary judging factor with this "adversity score" providing more context. Let's be fair, it's more impressive if a kid that has to take care of their siblings all the time because their single mother is working three jobs scores a 1600 than a kid that has the best tutors and unlimited resources who scores a 1600.
That said, the SAT is an outdated concept. Most schools don't put much weight on it at this point. It's just an excessively expensive test that allows College Board to continue to justify their existence.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Wildbob77
I also think that many colleges and universities are going to find themselves obsolete and/or useless because they are only interested in the politics of a situation and not interested in teaching critical thinking
Depends what you mean by "obsolete" and "useless." While it's true they're becoming increasingly focused on politics rather than actual learning, that's what many people want and will continue to pay (or get the taxpayers to pay) to go to these places to get told what to think. As long as people are willing lemmings, colleges and universities aren't going anywhere. The practical value of a degree is decreasing dramatically, that's true. But that's not what many people going to college or even some employers are looking for. It's the social value of that piece of paper from some big name indoctrination center. Think about the recent news with the admissions scandal. Their performance at college didn't matter. Just getting into that prestigious place gave them the social clout they needed.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Edumakated
Yes, middle class families also sacrifice all the time to buy their way into better school districts then they might otherwise pay for in order to try to realize better opportunities for their kids.
This type of score hurts those families the most.
Scrimp and save to move to a better district and school to try to realize the best opportunity you can and get scored down for being too white normative on your son or daughter's test.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Edumakated
I'm not worried so much about Ivy League as I am about scholarship access.
For middle class kids, that can make or break your college dreams. Your parents bust their butts to move you to a good school program. You take those tests and that can tip the scales in favor of financial aid or against. Now they add this crap in there?
How'd you like the be the kid who loses money because you're "too privileged" after living a life of sacrificing things other kids around you always had in order to realize an opportunity you just lost because you simply lived around those other kids?