President Trump Deep Intelligence Asset Since the 80s?

Hi, I'm new to posting in ATS but I've been lurking quite awhile. Hopefully I don't break any rules or norms in my first post.

This will be lengthy and may end up being multiple posts, so be patient and wait for the last post before replying. Thanks.

1981 FBI Memorandum - Trump Casino Atlantic City

In early April of 1981, writer was contacted by Case Agent and was subsequently advised that the source had a relationship with DONALD and ROBERT TRUMP of the Trump Organization. The source in this case owns a piece of property (along with other partners) in Atlantic City, upon which the Trump Organization wants to build a casino.

The memo goes on to summarize their meeting and DJT”s understanding and concerns about organized crime activity in casinos and how to protect his family, his business and brand.

At an Atlantic City conference, writer discussed with Bureau officials and the Atlantic City Resident Agency, the possibility that a proposed casino owner might be willing to cooperate with the FBI. In June of 1981, writer met again with DONALD TRUMP and ROBERT TRUMP during which time they advised that they felt confident they wished to build a casino in Atlantic City. Trump advised writer, who was in the presence of the Case Agent, that he (TRUMP) wanted to provide full disclosure” during the construction phase of this casino, and subsequently once the casino was operational. Trump stated that in order to show he was willing to fully cooperate with the FBI, he suggested that they use undercover Agents within the casino. The memo concludes strangely with references to whom of source and writer knew of proposed undercover activity. Nothing further is ever written or known of any start or conclusion to any undercover activity taken at Trump’s Atlantic City casino.

Please file away the reference to "full disclosure during construction phase" for a later point.

June 1982 - Construction Begins Trump Atlantic City Casino

May 1984 - Harrah's Casino Grand Opening

1985-86 - Guiliani Takedown of Mob Five Families

There have already been 300 arrests in New York since law-enforcement agencies redoubled their efforts to battle the Mafia in the fall of 1983. By utilizing a federal statute dubbed RICO (the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act of 1970), the alleged crime bosses were charged with racketeering. RICO allows broader grounds for bringing conspiracy charges, and prohibits an "enterprise'' from operating through a pattern of racketeering. The indictment outlined the existence of a commission, in which the five reputed "bosses'' and four alleged members or associates of the five families allegedly regulated the activities between and among the families. This included a scheme allegedly used to extort more than a million dollars from the concrete industry.

Why does this reference to the concrete industry seem important? It’s one of the media’s favorite ways to tie Trump’s ties to the mob back “decades” to make it sound more legit, however it's interesting to note the earlier FBI memo showed Trump provided "full disclosure during the construction phase."

Let's step back in time to the 1980s and remember WHO controlled concrete construction during this time. The mob.

Newsweek

“New York was so totally corrupt and so controlled by the mob in the ’80s that in order to be a successful businessman, you had to have some way to work that world,”

There was one other major mafia case during this time.

1986-87 - Mafia Pizza Connection Case

The trial centered on a Mafia-run enterprise that distributed vast quantities of heroin and coc aine in the United States, and then laundered the cash before sending it back to the suppliers in Sicily. The U.S. defendants utilized a number of independently owned pizza parlors as fronts for narcotics sales and collections – hence the name "Pizza Connection". Evidence at the trial proved that the enterprise shipped no less than $1.6 billion of heroin to the U.S. between 1975 and April 1984. Arrests of scores of conspirators were coordinated in the U.S., Italy, Switzerland and Spain on April 9, 1984, following the capture of Gaetano Badalamenti and several family members the previous day in Madrid, Spain. Badalamenti was the former boss of the Sicilian Mafia, and a key supplier of heroin and coc aine to the U.S. Mafia distributors.

The arrests were carried out by U.S. authorities, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the U.S. Customs Service and the New York City Police Department, who worked in extremely close cooperation with the Italian National Police and prosecutors, as well as the Swiss authorities. The arrests followed a two-year investigation carried out by U.S. and Italian authorities who shared highly sensitive information and agreed to coordinate their efforts to strike the U.S./Italian mafia-narcotics business.
[...]

The prosecution in the United States was led by Louis J. Freeh and Richard A. Martin. Mr. Freeh, who later became a federal district court judge and Director of the FBI, was named the lead investigator during the two-year investigation that led to the arrests.

Rudy Giuliani, who later became Mayor of New York City, was the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York during the investigation and trial of the case, and provided critical support and assistance to the prosecution.

The resulting 1990s led to a rise in Eurasia and particulary, Russian (Ukraine?) organized crime, especially in the Brighton Beach and NY areas. The ties of money laundering for Russia with Trump in the 1990s heavily correlate to the time when our intel agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA would have been particularly interested in the ties between organized crime and terrorism.

To be continued...

2004 - The Russian Mafiya and Al Qaeda
FYI, I know next to nothing regarding this source.

Mogilevich, known as "the brainy don," is said to be the world's most intelligent criminal. He is also very dangerous. When journalist Robert Friedman wrote about Mogilevich's career in a book titled Red Mafiya, Mogilevich allegedly put out a $100,000 contract on Friedman's life. According to Friedman, "hundreds of pages of classified FBI, British and Israeli intelligence documents ... describe him as a malevolent figure who has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel, Eastern Europe, and North America." According to his closest associates, Mogilevich employs Ph.D's on his staff, has penetrated countless banks, owns military and defense industries in more than one country, controls the flow of contraband through Moscow's Sheremetyevo International Airport and maintains close relations with "former" communist structures and personnel. Friedman states: "He is protected by a web of relationships with high-ranking officials of international security services, high flying financiers, and politicians.

Mogilevich, who was born in 1946 in the city of Kiev, is said to be a citizen of Russia, Ukraine, Israel and Hungary. He was educated in the Soviet Union and his teachers thought he would almost certainly become a leading scholar. Very little is known about his transition from Soviet academic superstar to crime boss, but when he left the "socialist motherland" for Israel in 1990 Mogilevich was a millionaire, and built his fortune through a variety of criminal projects. Today he directs his financial empire from a fortified compound in Budapest, Hungary - where he runs that country's arms industry, exporting weapons to Arab and Islamist clients.

Note we know that Mogilevich was an arms dealer and perhaps world’s largest mob boss even around 2000-01 timeframe, allegedly arming Al Qaeda, and based out of Budapest until fleeing to Russia for safe harbor. However, it seems many times the media chose to prefer to play up Russia over Ukraine, so it’s hard to know where he went until being arrested later in Moscow in 2008. Then later released.

According to sources near the action, East European mobsters (including Mogilevich's Red Mafiya) are helping al Qaeda to acquire nuclear, chemical and biological materials. These are smuggled from the "former" Soviet Union through Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Poland. They are then sold for cash or heroin. The significance of Mogilevich the year before Mueller became FBI Director is further evidenced by the FBI decision to put an office in Budapest

2005 - How Russian Money Helped Save Trump Business

As late as 2003, Trump was in such desperate financial trouble that at a meeting with his siblings following his father’s death he pressed them to hurriedly sell his father’s estate off, against the late Fred Trump’s wishes, the New York Times reported in an investigation of Trump family finances in October. And his businesses kept failing: In 2004, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy with $1.8 billion dollars of debt. But Trump eventually made a comeback, and according to several sources with knowledge of Trump’s business, foreign money played a large role in reviving his fortunes, in particular investment by wealthy people from Russia and the former Soviet republics. This conclusion is buttressed by a growing body of evidence amassed by news organizations, as well as what is reportedly being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Southern District of New York.[

...According to Trump’s former real-estate partner and other sources who are familiar with the internal workings of the Trump Organization, his post-’90s revival may have really begun in the early 2000s with the Bayrock Group, which rented offices two floors down from Trump’s in Trump Tower. Bayrock was run by two investors who would help to change Trump’s trajectory: Tevfik Arif, a Kazakhstan-born former Soviet official who drew on seemingly bottomless sources of money from the former Soviet republic; and Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman who had pleaded guilty in the 1990s to a huge stock-fraud scheme involving the Russian mafia./ex]

2005 - Paul Manafort Begins Ukraine Lobbying for Viktor Yanukovych, Time Magazine

2006 - US Attorney Office, Organized Crime Report

By the mid-1990s, the Moscow-based Solntsevo group emerged as the largest and most powerful Russian Organized Crime (ROC) group. In 1995, one of the strongest Solntsevo factions, led by Semion Mogilevich, established its headquarters in Budapest, Hungary.

...The MVD identified Mogilevich as the boss of more than 300 criminal associates operating in more than thirty countries in Europe, Asia, and North America. Their criminal activities included murder,extortion, trafficking in women for prostitution,smuggling, money laundering, bank and securities.

Let's FF to 2018, when Felix Sater comes out publicly to state he's been a deep asset in the intel community since prior to the 9/11 attacks.

2018 - Newsweek Felix Sater Interview

Newsweek interviews Felix Sater regarding his espionage and intelligence work tracking Osama bin Laden even prior to the 2001 attacks, back to 1998. President Clinton that summer had ordered an airstrike on Al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, based in part, former CIA sources say, on information Hamid, an Afghan contact, had passed on. “The CIA really wanted me to go back [to Moscow] at this point,” Sater says. In late 2000, as Sater helped the feds take on the mob, he also tried to make some money with a real estate business—Bayrock—and two FBI sources say Sater’s cooperation would eventually help turn Frank Coppa, a captain in the Bonanno crime family, into a cooperating witness against the mob organization.

Felix Sater "building Trump Towers by day, hunting bin Laden at night

What says ATS? Trump deep cover, or Russian mob boss allowed to usurp the Presidency of the United States?

Sheds light on why many people "close" to Trump have been placed in the spotlights and taken down 😎

Well snap. One helluva post. With the NSA'a ability to listen to every conversation known to man, I just cannot believe that they would not have picked this up and acted looong before Trump even ran for office. OTH, having an FBI mole in the whitehouse would be epic...the listening agencies could do whatever they wanted.. Yet Trump really upset that whole lot.

It makes no sense.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Don't forget how odd Adm. Rogers (NSA) trip to the Trump Towers was shortly after his election win.

He moved his whole campaign out of the building the day after, which seems to correlate with the FISA abuses we are now aware of... so I think it's definitely a possibility Trump could have been a deep asset all this time.

The main factors being his placement in elite circles at parties, his elite club at Mar-a-Lago, and his international travels would have made him an asset to SOMEONE.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Yet Trump really upset that whole lot.

It makes no sense.

Yet Trump really upset SOME of that lot.

Fixed it for you.

a reply to: ucanthandlethetruth

Comey DID tank HillBIll's campaign rather strategically. But why the spy agencies I wonder? I mean I was suspicious that Obama got elected being a half-term, never present, community organizing senator. Could the deep state really have everything wrapped up that tight .
Still, I thought they were all in the bag for Clinton.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Obviously I don't know either way but it's POSSIBLE there were combatting elements within the intel communities: honest vs. corrupt factions.

We have the 'Iron Triangle' speech from Bob Mueller in 2011 which is interesting in hindsight.
Mueller Iron Triangle Speech

We are investigating groups in Asia, Eastern Europe, West Africa, and the Middle East. And we are seeing cross-pollination between groups that historically have not worked together. Criminals who may never meet, but who share one thing in common: greed. They may be former members of nation-state governments, security services, or the military. These individuals know who and what to target, and how best to do it. They are capitalists and entrepreneurs. But they are also master criminals who move easily between the licit and illicit worlds. And in some cases, these organizations are as forward-leaning as Fortune 500 companies.

This is not “The Sopranos,” with six guys sitting in a diner, shaking down a local business owner for $50 dollars a week. These criminal enterprises are making billions of dollars from human trafficking, health care fraud, computer intrusions, and copyright infringement. They are cornering the market on natural gas, oil, and precious metals, and selling to the highest bidder. These crimes are not easily categorized. Nor can the damage, the dollar loss, or the ripple effects be easily calculated. It is much like a Venn diagram, where one crime intersects with another, in different jurisdictions, and with different groups.

How does this impact you? You may not recognize the source, but you will feel the effects. You might pay more for a gallon of gas. You might pay more for a luxury car from overseas. You will pay more for health care, mortgages, clothes, and food. Yet we are concerned with more than just the financial impact. These groups may infiltrate our businesses. They may provide logistical support to hostile foreign powers. They may try to manipulate those at the highest levels of government. Indeed, these so-called “iron triangles” of organized criminals, corrupt government officials, and business leaders pose a significant national security threat....we are also building a long-term strategy for dismantling these enterprises. Last year, we set up two units, called Threat Focus Cells, to target Eurasian organized crime. The first focuses on the Semion Mogilevich Organization; the second on the Brother’s Circle enterprise.

For those of you not familiar with either group, their memberships are large, their reach is global, and their scope of operations is broad, from weapons and drug trafficking to high-stakes fraud and global prostitution. If left unchecked, the resulting impact to our economy and our security will be significant. Indeed, Semion Mogilevich is on the FBI Top Ten Most Wanted List, and he will remain so until he is captured.

The ink isn't even dry on the Mueller Report. Quick! Appoint a Special Counsel. Let's go at this for three more years.

Excellent first post and welcome.

a reply to: ucanthandlethetruth

Trump Deep Intelligence Asset Since the 80s?

It wouldn't be the first time an eccentric billionaire was used as a smokescreen....

There had to be a frontman - someone rich and eccentric enough to be plausible. The reclusive billionaire inventor Howard Hughes was perfect for the role. He agreed to take part and covertly a ingenious device straight from a Bond film was built in his name and the PR campaign was conveyed

a reply to: Infoshill

It would be a good cover if I'm correct in my speculation.

It's always bugged me all of these direct/indirect ties first to La Cosa Nostra and then Russia organized crime, with never a hint over decades of him being investigated, under suspicion, or wire tapped until the 2016 election.

Yet we have him in the early 80s seemingly providing "full cooperation" to the FBI and no data ever provided since; and then some hefty mob takedowns in the mid 80s (by none other than Guiliani) right around the time his casino went operational in Atlantic City.

a reply to: ucanthandlethetruth

S&F yesterday. I was thinking about your post today and recalled that when Trump was nominated, on Oct 30, there was a slew of FBI releases, some regarding the Trump family. But there was one in particular that made many of us think that Trump had been inducted in some way in the FBI. Course, at the time we thought it was recent.

Here is the link to Twitter FBI Records Vault You will have to scroll down to 0ct 30 2016.

I haven't gone through it again but I think it was either FBI agent gold badge or Student program. many of us thought this was unusual combined with the Trump, John Trump and Tesla, plus others, all on the same day.

Looking at all the info, this may well relate to an earlier time when Potus was involved.

Take it for what you will. At the time it was very curious.

a reply to: ucanthandlethetruth

I dunno , Need More than Theory and Conjecture here . Is this FAKE NEWS > ?

Another oddity is how so many of these so-called "Russian" ties to Trump are actually in some cases, tied to Ukraine, but in most cases tied to Hillary Clinton. What are the odds?

Let's take as an example, this article from The Atlantic 'Trump Targets Government's Top Organized Crime Experts'

8/30/2018

Some of President Trump’s favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering particularly as they pertain to Russia.

Robert Mueller, the special counsel appointed in May 2017 to investigate a potential conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Moscow to defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, assembled a team with revealing expertise in fraud, racketeering, money laundering, and other financial crimes.

Trump’s fixation with seeing Ohr ousted from the Justice Department could be perceived as yet another attempt to undermine the credibility of the people who have investigated him. It could also be interpreted as an attack on someone with deep knowledge of the shady characters Trump and his cohort have been linked to, including Semion Mogilevich, the Russian mob boss, and Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum magnate close to Putin who did business with Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. (Incidentally, another Manafort associate, the Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash, admitted that he only managed to be in business because Mogilevich allowed him to be, according to a leaked 2008 State Department cable.) Ohr was involved in banning Deripaska from the U.S. in 2006, due to his alleged ties to organized crime and fear that he would try to launder money into American real estate. Nearly a decade later, Ohr and the FBI sought Deripaska’s help in taking down overseas criminal syndicates.

So... we now know if they really thought Trump was a Russian kingpin, it could be assumed a perceived true patriot like Mueller would not have allowed this to go on. Surely, with all of the investigative tools and methods the public is aware of, there would be EVIDENCE of his wrongoing within these circles.

Yet it gets odd when we consider these facts we know now.

2005-06 - Paul Manafort lobbying for Viktor Yanukovych, pro-Russia political group tied to Dmitry Firtash; also works for Oleg Deripaska during this timeframe; Manafort begins working for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, who has close ties with Vladimir Putin, for $10 million per year, per the Washington Post.

2009-10 - Russian Reset Period; Skolvovo work begins as well as Uranium One deals

2011 - Robert Mueller Iron Triangle Speech, 2-year term extension

2012 - Skolvovo Electronics Technology Center

n July 2012, IBM and five leading Russian innovation companies: the Skolkovo Foundation, Rusnano, Rostelecom, Russian Venture Company and ITFY, all signed a collaboration agreement to foster a culture of applied research and commercialization and attract key talent and investment from around the world in the area of microelectronics. The agreement will give the Electronics Technology Center access to IBM’s intellectual property for chip design. IBM will also provide cloud computing technologies to form the basis of a new virtual design environment to be used to develop new microelectronic devices such as sensors to be used in smarter infrastructure projects, industry and consumer electronics. The cloud will help unite Russia’s dispersed microelectronics development teams and provide access to advanced technologies and best practice and foster global collaboration. Russian chip designers and fabless design houses will be able to access new semiconductor technologies, including automation tools, design kits, libraries and intellectual property. The center will also provide access to a wide variety of semiconductor production processes offered by many different foundries.

How ironic it would be if the DNC hack came from the very place Hillary herself helped set up with Russia...

2014 - Feb
Yanukovytch flees Ukraine amid protests

2014 - Mar
Russia Ukraine conflict starts

2014 - FARA document shows Dmitry Firtash being represented by Lanny Davis, longtime Hillary Clinton supporter
The Hill

Former Clinton counsel Lanny Davis, who recently made headlines representing former Trump counsel Michael Cohen, represents Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash. Davis told me he’s defending Firtash against prosecutorial abuse by the Justice Department, which indicted Firtash in 2014 for alleged bribery; Firtash has paid Davis $735,000 over three years.

So that's one guy who is being named as being a Russian tie to Trump, who is using a Hillary Clinton friend, supporter as his lawyer.

Then Oleg Deripaska is named in another The Hill piece by investigative reporter John Solomon, with excerpt below

In September 2015, senior Department of Justice (DOJ) official Bruce Ohr and some FBI agents met in New York with Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska to seek the Russian billionaire’s help on organized crime investigations. The meeting was facilitated — though not attended — by British intelligence operative Christopher Steele. In 2012, Steele’s private firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, was hired as a subcontractor by a law firm working for Deripaska, who then headed Russia’s largest aluminum company. Steele’s firm was asked to do research to help the law firm defend a lawsuit filed against Deripaska by a business rival.

So again, we have an example of these names being provided as signs of links to Trump ties to Russian organized crime, when we find that Christopher Steele worked for Deripaska, facilitated a meeting for him (what sense does any of this make?)

2014 - April Telegram

In an extraordinary warning issued to technology companies in Massachusetts, the FBI’s Boston office said entrepreneurs could unwittingly be drawn into industrial espionage if they work with Russian-backed venture capital firms operating here and in Silicon Valley. The bureau said it has sent notices to local companies and research facilities such as universities, and on Friday published an op-ed piece by an agent in the FBI’s Boston office. The FBI singled out the Skolkovo Foundation, founded by Russia’s prime minister, Dmitry Medvedev, that in 2011 enlisted the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to start an elite technical college in Russia modeled after the Cambridge school. ″The foundation may be a means for the Russian government to access our nation’s sensitive or classified research development facilities and dual-use technologies with military and commercial application

Give me a few and I'll continue... these posts take time.

2014 - Paul Manafort being wiretapped until sometime 2016 Fortune

So in 2014 and up through sometime in 2016, we know the FBI was already investigating Manafort and had him on wiretap warrant.

Wouldn't common sense and logic dictate SOMEONE within the FBI/DOJ for President Obama warn him, ESPECIALLY when the first indications began the Russians would meddle in the 2016 election?

I mean, President Obama of all people, knew the Russians like to meddle (as we do), considering they meddled in his campaign in 2012 Time, 2013

Instead, Paul Manafort was inserted into the Trump campaign and no one warned him.

It's starting to look more and more like Trump had some within his circle letting him always be one step ahead of those who were trying to entrap him. Keep your enemies closer

We know he fired Manafort fairly early in the campaign. I don't get the impression from articles Manafort was given much responsibility as it's been reported many places he really ran his campaign along with Kushner.

I'm going to list more ties and circumstantial evidence later. It's just going to be a long, ongoing thread as I've been looking into this angle for awhile now.

Donald Trump, 2012 on Twitter, quoting Sun Tzu
twitter.com...

The Supreme Art of War is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

Accidental dupe post

originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: ucanthandlethetruth

S&F yesterday. I was thinking about your post today and recalled that when Trump was nominated, on Oct 30, there was a slew of FBI releases, some regarding the Trump family. But there was one in particular that made many of us think that Trump had been inducted in some way in the FBI. Course, at the time we thought it was recent.

Here is the link to Twitter FBI Records Vault You will have to scroll down to 0ct 30 2016.

I haven't gone through it again but I think it was either FBI agent gold badge or Student program. many of us thought this was unusual combined with the Trump, John Trump and Tesla, plus others, all on the same day.

Looking at all the info, this may well relate to an earlier time when Potus was involved.

Take it for what you will. At the time it was very curious.

Thanks, I will take a look through them.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: ucanthandlethetruth

I dunno , Need More than Theory and Conjecture here . Is this FAKE NEWS > ?

Generally, virtually everything on a conspiracy forum is theory and conjecture.
But no, I don't mean this to be fake news.

I'm literally attempting to solve the puzzle here of how he could be tied to Russian money laundering, in an FBI memo in 1981 offering to "fully cooperate" resulting in later mafia arrests, and have all of this the media has been going nuts about for like two years now without any hint of every being investigated or dirty prior to the 2016 election.

Then even now, you can take any name tied to the Trump-Mueller investigation and instead of searching the name + Trump, search the name + Clinton and be surprised. It should make any critical thinking person ponder what the F is really going on here in the US.