Is R Kelly any different than Hugh Hefner?

I really think both are /were pedophiles, except one is just not the right color.
One will go down as a pioneer of sex, while the other one will go down as a freak. I believe they are both very much alike and that
the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Some even think that Hefner was murdered, maybe to protect the playboy legacy? Maybe to protect Hollywood pedophiles that were going to be named by him..Who knows. I wonder if something similar is happening to R Kelly especially regarding his sex cults and who might have been involved.

Whenever I see someone got nuts in the media I always wonder, are they really crazy, or does someone want them to look crazy?



truthbarrier.com...

“Hugh Hefner was found dead in suspicious circumstances on Wednesday at his home in Los Angeles, just days before he was set to be arrested on child sex charges, according to a Los Angeles police source.

Let me get this straight, the basis for this post is a blog reporting on an article from a site that even the blog author says is less than credible.

Hefner was surrounded by gorgeous women of legal age 24/7, and they were all having sex with him.

R Kelly pees on little girls under the legal age of consent.

Big difference.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Let me get this straight, the basis for this post is a blog reporting on an article from a site that even the blog author says is less than credible.

The basis for my post was that both R Kelly and Hefner were very similar,
maybe their demise is also similar.

Many would call ATS not credible too

Maybe not the best choice for link as for the opinion on his death, but others are out there that basically
say the same thing.
newspunch.com...

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Hefner was surrounded by gorgeous women of legal age 24/7, and they were all having sex with him.

R Kelly pees on little girls under the legal age of consent.

Big difference.

legal age.......Are you sure about that..

First of all, the link you provide is hardly a bastion of reputable journalism.

Second of all, your accusations of racism is debunked by the fact that his arrest was imminent, if true.

I would also say that pedophilia is evil regardless of race, and I don't know anyone who would defend it, period.

If the charges against the R man are true, he deserves to be given a needle, but I'll settle for life in prison with a very large white supremacist cellmate, who trades him out for smokes on a daily basis.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

I really think both are /were pedophiles, except one is just not the right color.
One will go down as a pioneer of sex, while the other one will go down as a freak. I believe they are both very much alike and that
the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Some even think that Hefner was murdered, maybe to protect the playboy legacy? Maybe to protect Hollywood pedophiles that were going to be named by him..Who knows. I wonder if something similar is happening to R Kelly especially regarding his sex cults and who might have been involved.

Whenever I see someone got nuts in the media I always wonder, are they really crazy, or does someone want them to look crazy?



truthbarrier.com...

“Hugh Hefner was found dead in suspicious circumstances on Wednesday at his home in Los Angeles, just days before he was set to be arrested on child sex charges, according to a Los Angeles police source.

I was going to start a thread on this as part of me thinks R Kelly is being railroaded....

First, before anyone waste time... Yes, R Kelly had sex with that underaged girl. He married Aliyah when she was 15. We all know this. The man clearly has a thing for younger women.

His current case though really isn't about that.... but that is what people are holding above his head. He has two accusers, both of which seem to be totally fine with the situation. He basically has a harem of girls (all of whom are legal age). Two of the girls parents are the ones filing charges... not the girls themselves.

The girls are estranged from their parents. R Kelly claims he is being blackmailed by the parents for money. The parents are the ones who introduced the daughters to R Kelly.

This is kind of like how OJ got he book thrown at him on an unrelated charge as revenge for beating the murder case. We have to be very careful about using our legal system in this manner.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I don't remember hugh stating pedophilia was normal or numerous stories and recording of him using 14 year old girls or spread stds or marrying 15 aaliyah

I'm not sure, but I've never heard those allegations before.

a reply to: Mach2

If the charges against the R man are true, he deserves to be given a needle, but I'll settle for life in prison with a very large white supremacist cellmate, who trades him out for smokes on a daily basis.

If R Kelly deserves the needle for not paying child support, I think a lot of deadbeat dads out should be very scared.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: JAGStorm

I don't remember hugh stating pedophilia was normal or numerous stories and recording of him using 14 year old girls or spread stds or marrying 15 aaliyah

Hugh Hefner was directly responsible for the ads of Brooke Shields as a young girl in the most vulgar way.
He pretty much pioneered it.

theconversation.com...tishisation-of-young-girls-85255

Playboy, Brooke Shields and the fetishisation of young girls

The most surprising detail to emerge after Hefner’s death was that Brooke Shields had featured in a Playboy publication called Sugar and Spice when aged only 10 years old in 1975.

10 Years old and in a playboy publication?? yeah that sounds real wholesome!

a reply to: JAGStorm

That's the original article that the blog said was from a not reputable source

a reply to: Edumakated

I was going to start a thread on this as part of me thinks R Kelly is being railroaded....

I think for people that are from Chicago and old enough to follow the entire story, something is off.
Like you said, he isn't an angel but something doesn't feel right.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It isn't racism, but it is revenge prosecution under the MeToo era....

R Kelly clearly has issues. However, I don't even know that I'd call him a "pedo" in the same way I'd say Michael Jackson was or how we even generally think of pedos. I think R Kelly just likes barely legal chicks.

The thing is, a bunch of men like barely legal girls. All one has to do is look at any porn site and see this is not something uncommon.

The other issue is "fast" underage girls have always dated older men. I know when I was in high school, it was not uncommon for some girls to not even give us guys the time of day as they were often "dating" guys who had long graduated from high school. Every guy knows that girl who was 15 or 16 years old dating some guy who was like 20+ years old. He had the Camaro or whatever other car and us pimply faced freshman / sophomores had no change.

The girls were not / are not innocent. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but just stating facts. If R Kelly wasn't R Kelly, he would have just been Robert in the hood dating some high school chick.

Now at 52 years old, he is the dirty old man with barely legal girlfriends. No different from Hugh Hefner. The difference is that the girl's PARENTS (not the girls) are accusing him of brainwashing them.

The girls are not the ones complainig. This is why I said this is an attempt to convict him on something since he beat the case 20 years ago.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I've not seen anything that shows Hefner as a pedophile.

What I have seen is that he was strict and controlling with his women. But not enough to warrant him going to jail.

Kelly on the other hand does have multiple women claiming abuse to the cops.

Kelly will go to court and they will either find him guilty or innocent. So let's wait and see what happens.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Mach2

If the charges against the R man are true, he deserves to be given a needle, but I'll settle for life in prison with a very large white supremacist cellmate, who trades him out for smokes on a daily basis.

If R Kelly deserves the needle for not paying child support, I think a lot of deadbeat dads out should be very scared.

You can't be that dumb, so I'll just assume you are a troll, and go about my day.

a reply to: Edumakated

Dude, we are exactly, on the same page with this. Seriously like 100%

I do think there is a touch of racism though.
Old white guy that looks like grandpa vs. black thug musician.

Just look on here and he people defending Hugh!

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Mach2

If the charges against the R man are true, he deserves to be given a needle, but I'll settle for life in prison with a very large white supremacist cellmate, who trades him out for smokes on a daily basis.

If R Kelly deserves the needle for not paying child support, I think a lot of deadbeat dads out should be very scared.

You can't be that dumb, so I'll just assume you are a troll, and go about my day.

I'm not dumb or a troll, but I do know one thing with the law, if they can't get you on the charges they want or made up, they will get you on other charges. Look at Al Capone, never got him for racketeering, but got him for taxes..

a reply to: JAGStorm

Comparing Hefner to R. Kelly is an insult to comparisons.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: JAGStorm

I've not seen anything that shows Hefner as a pedophile.

What I have seen is that he was strict and controlling with his women. But not enough to warrant him going to jail.

Kelly on the other hand does have multiple women claiming abuse to the cops.

Kelly will go to court and they will either find him guilty or innocent. So let's wait and see what happens.

It’s no secret that the founder of Playboy, Hugh Hefner, was a lover of younger women, what may come as a surprise is that Hefner actually provided a platform for child pornography and allowed nude pictures of girls as young as 10 years old to be printed in a publication that he owned and overseen. This is not suppressed news, a secret nor is it a conspiracy. In fact, Playboy still boasts and advertise the fact that they have photographed and published images of young models. Their own website still hosts images of 16-year-old Elizabeth Ann Roberts posing nude.