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originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: Unruhestifter
luckily he sold his nobelprice to an russian oligarch..
originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Unruhestifter
Well .. ain´t his comments based by his research and observation ? When results speak for themselves, do we deny ? Isn´t his comments just a result of his observations as a scientist? He should not be stripped of honors when he has data to back up his comments.
originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: Unruhestifter
Okay.
im just saying iq testing seems to be unfair to africans
originally posted by: toms54
The question, "But does a 90 year old racist views wipe out all the good he has contributed? Should all his honors be wiped out because of this?" Wipe out his honors? Let me ask you this. Should we teach that America never went to the moon because all the rockets were designed by Nazis that once used slave labor?
But now a new study of nearly 80,000 people, published in Nature Genetics, has managed to identify a number of genes that seem to be involved in intelligence. According to a dictionary definition, intelligence is "the ability to learn, understand or deal with new situations" or "the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly"
originally posted by: generik
i think an important question that needs to be raised is, why do these "racist" ideas have such a tendency to pop up with researchers doing similar types of research? and why is it when they report their findings it is automatically racist? i remember several years ago a big hullabaloo being raised when research at a Canadian college showed that different races (not just black/white), had higher and lower average IQ's from each other. we certainly don't call it racist when research shows that different races have higher and lower rates of certain diseases and medical issues such as diabetes. just as we don't call it sexist when we find that more women suffer from breast cancer then men, or that men have higher rates of prostate cancer. we just take it as a given. and that having different DNA has effects on different races. so why is it a problem when it is found that different DNA actually does have effects on things like IQ? seriously next thing you know DNA testing for racial heritage will be racist, since that seems to prove that there is indeed differences between races.
seriously at this point we should stop referring to dogs as different breeds. that a dog is a dog, and is equal to every other dog. be it a Chihuahua, Pitbull, or English Bulldog. they are all the same and have no differences between them as they are all dogs. and that anyone who favors or disfavors any specific breeds of dogs are racists. after all race, ie breed has nothing to do with a dog's IQ, or being any better or worse than others for different things. here is no reason a Chihuahua or Jack Russel should not be seeing eye dogs, they are equal to all other dogs after all. no reason a sheep farmer should not use a Pitbull for herding sheep. or any reason we should not have police K-9 units filled with Chihuahuas for taking down suspects and finding drugs and explosives. this is exactly what we are saying if we don't accept the fact that different races of humans are different from each other because they have different DNA.
guess we had better stop teaching things like biology, animal husbandry, and the theory of evolution. as well as burning all the textbooks since they are according to things like this false and lead to/ are racism.
originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: dragonridr
No No no no .. IQ is proven to be mostly genetic and you need IQ to learn ( certain genes make your lerning capacities, are you quick learner or weak )
Genes don't just influence your IQ—they determine how well you do in school
Childhood intelligence is heritable, highly polygenic and associated with FNBP1L
Large study uncovers genes linked to intelligence
But now a new study of nearly 80,000 people, published in Nature Genetics, has managed to identify a number of genes that seem to be involved in intelligence. According to a dictionary definition, intelligence is "the ability to learn, understand or deal with new situations" or "the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly"
SNPedia
Another IQ gene
(C;C) has higher cranial capacity (about 2 teaspoons) and over 2% higher IQ.
(C;T) is half this positive effect.
For example taking a black child and placing them with white parents they will have a much higher score.