A Sculpture Celebrating Saudi Arabia Has Been Erected on Ground Zero. “There is no god but Allah,

a reply to: projectvxn

Yeah and few years ago it was Christianity, time moves on, don't act like ones better than the other, it ebbs and flows which is more destructive. Peoples vicious belief that their god is the right god,and their nasty desire to inflict it on others is the cancer on this earth. All are equally guilty.

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So many of you are guilty of stereotyping believers, and fitting them into one neat little package so that your dislike is all tied up with a neat little bow. They're all like that, and too many of you won't hear any different.

Sorry, but the real world doesn't work that way.

Sure, there are religious zealots of many differing stripes, but for every one of them, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, even millions in all likelihood, that are not intolerant zealots. They worship quietly, and without fanfare in synagogues, temples, and churches all over the world, with nary a peep to be heard.

Over the years, I've had the honor to attend many different religious ceremonies as a guest. All manner of Christian/Catholic services, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and a handful of others, such as Wiccan. They all pretty much want the same thing. To come closer to their version of the Godhead.

That zealots, of what ever stripe, will corrupt a religion for their own purposes casts no shadow, or shouldn't, on others who most assuredly do not.

But too many of you won't even take the time to look. You just judge.

a reply to: Murgatroid

We already went over this. Your biased opinion pieces that share your view don't disprove this concept. "Archaeology, history and Islam" all disagree with you. I'm glad you're trying to add weight to your argument with articles, but your articles are bunk. It's well known that the Muslim Crescent symbol was taken from Constantinople. It's common knowledge that many Arabic speaking Christians refer to their god as "Allah."

Like I said THREE YEARS AGO, your articles don't refute the concept that God and Allah are two words for the same deity, they just disagree with it.

Here's an excerpt from the last time you tried presenting BS as fact.

"Hell, this is the opening line from your second article: "Allah is the name of the only God in Islam. Allah is a pre-Islamic name coming from the compound Arabic word Al-ilah which means the God, which is derived from al (the) ilah (deity)." Hell of the four things you posted, three mention this. Your last one goes on to say "‘Hubal’ was the god to whom Arabs prayed at the Kaaba and they used the name “Allah” when they prayed. Today a Muslim is one who submits to the God Allah." That should, more accurately, state "They used the TERM "allah" when they prayed" since it just said that "Allah" means "The God." Many religions think that addressing your god by name is disrespectful at the least."

Quit Arbitrarily thumbing your nose at history because it loosely affiliates you with a group you consider the "bad guys."

originally posted by: Dr UAE

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I really want to see the left protect this offensive statue.

Please, please start defending it!


Assholes.

come on DB, I like you, but please dont make this a Muslim thing, its 20 candies over there representing 20 countries.

come on man, you are much more intelligent than to mix up things

I could give a crap about it being a Muslim thing.

It is obviously offensive to some.

The left has created precedence to tear down statues they find offensive.

Just wondering if/when they defend it, they'll be using the reason of "free expression".

You see?

Because when others have used the reason of "free expression", the leftists have said, "Too ####ing bad, it's ####ing offensive" and have torn it down.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Remember the 1999 Seattle WTO protests? The Black"Gestapo" like State forces wouldnt let protesters anywhere near the meeting areas?

The candy shapes are a slap in the face to all free thinking people. Your Rulers represented like poisonous candy.

"Know your Masters - we rule you"

Nothing is done by accident. Symbolism is clear.

A poisonous chalice.



en.wikipedia.org...

1999 Seattle WTO protests, sometimes referred to as the Battle of Seattle,[1] were a series of protests surrounding the WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999, when members of the World Trade Organization (WTO) convened at the Washington State Convention and Trade Center in Seattle, Washington on November 30, 1999. The Conference was to be the launch of a new millennial round of trade negotiations. The negotiations were quickly overshadowed by massive and controversial street protests outside the hotels and the Washington State Convention and Trade Center.

The protests were nicknamed "N30", akin to J18 and similar mobilizations. The large scale of the demonstrations, estimated at no less than 40,000 protesters, dwarfed any previous demonstration in the United States against a world meeting of any of the organizations generally

There are giant candies of all the G20 nations flags, the Saudi flag just happens to have some religious garbage as a part of it.

a reply to: wheresthebody

They're all distasteful.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



I've always looked at it as a large middle finger...

originally posted by: Dr UAE
a reply to: amazing

amazing is your name and not amazing is your comment

this candy is not for KSA only, its for 20 other countries participating.

and for the other claims that you mentioned, no prof what so ever

keep on hating, im pretty sure its good for your health

Do some research bro. Where were the attackers from? Where did they get the financial backing? Where does Wahabbism, their extreme philosophy, come from? Where did Osama Bin Laden come from? Do that and you'll start connecting the dots. Saudi Arabia is the biggest terrorist threat on earth right now, the reason they don't get sanctioned or isolated is because of their wealth and their oil.

a reply to: seagull

I couldn't agree more.

"F" them all I say.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse


I think this is horrible 'art' but your topic is misleading.

It is not just a sculpture for Saudi Arabia, it has all the other G20 countries too.

I think it is insensitive that there is Islamic propaganda on their flag which happens to be placed near Ground Zero, but I also think if you want to be all in a huff about SA being there, you should also be in a bunch about other complicit nations flag's being there, like ours, the US (had complicit factions), Germany's (knew they would benefit from the situation RE Deutsche Bank and other record cleaning), and a bunch more.

I think the art is terrible and should be moved on that grounds not because a small line on an ugly flag mentions Allah.

Just my opinion, and I am very patriotic. But not in a blind way.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

By Davis Richardson • 01/09/19 3:31pm

A sculpture celebrating Saudi Arabia’s place in the G20 Summit was erected on the World Trade Center grounds last week, a stone’s throw away from the 9/11 memorial.

Did you read beyond the first paragraph?

It's part of a large group of "candy nation" where flags of other countries are also displayed as wrapped candy. It's not a single statue.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

why did the imscription need to say that? Anything else would do.. why that specific inscription?

It's just another flag from these people claiming another spot in someone else's country.

originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Is this credible?

Definitely does not seem like a good move

ya know what gets me? This..

There is no god but Allah, and Mohammed is the prophet.
observer.com...



“In its continuing efforts to transform the World Trade Center site into a dynamic space in Lower Manhattan, the Port Authority announced that beginning today it will showcase famous candy sculptures around the World Trade Center campus crafted by renowned French artist Laurence Jenkell,” reads the statement. “Each of the sculptures features flags from countries in the G20 summit, and the art work was commissioned by companies and organizations including the Chanel Foundation, the International Olympic Committee and Coca-Cola.”

20 candies eh?

Looks like 20 hidden bombs to me.

originally posted by: WilsonWilson
Islam and christianity share the same god. Yes the abrahamic religions are all sexist, racist and homophobic. Seems a bit rich for one to criticise the other.

They are not the same God. Elohim gives a choice as his only begotten son said. Allah demands submission.

originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Makes sense. Because trump's first foreign transaction was a massive arms sale to SA which he barely boasted about because they asked him not to.

POTUS Trump had nothing to do with this. I put on bold that the port authority of New York and New Jersey allowed this. It has nothing to do with the POTUS. This was a decision by the authorities in New York and New Jersey.

a reply to: WilsonWilson

Please, stop trying to turn this on Christianity. In the 20th and 21st century the people who have murdered more innocents, over 110 million, and imprisoned millions more were atheistic left-wing beliefs.

Try to keep your comments to this particular topic. Was it right for them to put this message at "ground zero"? The same place were Muslim radicals attacked us and killed over 2600 people, and it was done under the name of that same god.

originally posted by: Byrd

Did you read beyond the first paragraph?

It's part of a large group of "candy nation" where flags of other countries are also displayed as wrapped candy. It's not a single statue.

It doesn't matter. They could have included their flag without that reference. In the same spot where Muslim radicals "in the name of Allah" murdered almost 3,000 people.

originally posted by: seagull

I've always looked at it as a large middle finger...

Yeah, up our collectives asses.

You want to show the terrorists we don't care? You rebuild what was there exactly as it was. If the White House got destroyed you don't build some Tudor or Split Ranch in its place.