Riots in France, Belgium, and Germany? All over gas taxes?

a reply to: Fools

i left france a couple of years ago because it was already impossible.
sounds like we are in the same place

a reply to: Waterglass

and thats why they have invented migration hate crime act.
whoopee!
www.express.co.uk...

a reply to: Bluntone22

Exactly the same in the UK. Milk is actually cheaper than it has been in years or at least the same price allowing for inflation. You are looking at £1.09 for a jug of 4 pints, a couple of years ago £1.00 so with period adjusted about the same, but butter has gone through the roof and like you say, both from the cow. It's a funny old world and an increasingly expensive one

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Apparently there is a butter shortage and increased demand.

So if everyone could just stop buying butter so I can that'd be great, m'kay.

AHDB senior analyst Patty Clayton said there was concern in the market about supply levels, with stocks still tight and milk production growing at a slower rate than anticipated.

“Earlier in the year there was an expectation milk supply would increase,” said Ms Clayton.

“But this hasn’t been the case – mainly because of the poor start to the growing season.

“This is causing a nervousness among the buyers and pushing up prices as they compete for stocks.”

As well as the questions over future supply, a further driver for the rising price has been stronger consumer demand for fats.

Several studies questioned the link between saturated fat and heart disease and food trend analysts suggested that consumers had returned to using butter because of a popular belief that it was a healthier alternative to margarines.

Source

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

The UK is so freakin confusing. Milk is Imperial, but veg is kilos. Fuel is sold by the liter, but the cars all go by MPG.
No wonder peeps are confused!



I wonder if this is what the Russian Revolution felt like? Wouldn't it be cool to go toss out those criminals in London who are laundering money, and just occupy their giant houses? Yes....yes it would.

So socialism doesn’t relieve tax burdens to pay for all that free stuff? Man, who would have thought that it works like that.

I can’t imagine why people would be upset about accepting less wealth for performing more work in exchange for free stuff that they would more than capable of buying on their own if they felt there was a need for it. People that are hungry tend to buy food just fine on their own, if they have the money. Tends to work out that way on many different things.

But if you cannot afford even the most simple of needs no matter how hard you try, you just have to do something to change that. The main reason socialism will not work in the US is because of that basic fact that often rioting is the only way to become heard. The danger with a full throw down end all riot here versus most of Europe is the unfathomable amount of firearms that could come into play.

Is there any sort of coincidence to the same party clamoring for socialism is also kinda vocal about ending gun ownership? Think of the children, indeed.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Hahhahaa oh yeah it is a confusing place alright. Half the people want into the European way and half want to get as far as they can from it The confusion over weights and measurements is just the same. It even gets stranger with dwugs, if youre buy buying cannabis they charge for it in Imperial weights while if its Charlie they go by metric measurements Everyone's confused

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: lakenheath24
The French I know have very little disposable income after all the taxes. I think peeps are pissed off at the migrants as well. It's turning Europe to the right. Even Spain is going right wing apparently. And no wonder....they have had like 15percent unemployment forever.

Everyone worldwide is getting peeved with price rises while wages remain stagnant, I mean it's getting mental every time you buy butter. Two or three years ago you could buy full fat English butter for 72p that being from a major supermarket. Now the price is somewehere around £1.60

How can butter just double in price like that? It's just insane during a period of austerity, even Aldi is charging £1.49 for the very cheapest butter. Something you need just like fuel and it's going through the stratosphere. Goernments worldwide need to reign in scams like this before the riots become a worldwide phenomenon and the whole capitalist system is overthrown

It's because there is a growing middle class in India and China. They too want the best of everything, especially Western food like milk, beef and other dairy products. British farmers got fed up of the miserly prices offered by British supermarkets like Tescos (they actually have teams that drive down prices), that they sold direct to China in protest.

a reply to: stormcell

Wow, so the Chinese are the reason yeah? Oh my life they destroyed our local industries and now they stitch up our butter prices. Dunno how much more I can take of China......... or farmers

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: Bluntone22

Oh right....... I see what you mean. Suppose fuel gonna have that effect. Yep, good point. But double the cost in two years? Something's not right somewhere

The Fuel tax was created to pay off a debt owed by the French government to EDF. The government forced EDF to purchase renewable energy from various suppliers. Any difference between overhead and market price was supposed to be paid for by a tax on power users. But that didn't work out. So the government had to place a tax on diesel fuel in order to cover this debt. They had to pick a "non-escapable" taxable source, so they chose diesel. But a car is essential for rural France because villages and towns are typically three miles apart on roads with no pavement or street lights.

a reply to: stormcell

So the govt took it off the people by the pump tax, that is a worldwide phenomenon really but the French rural types do seem to like a bit of tyre burning. Being honest about it France is quite a large country so you would need reasonable pried fuel. Bit of bummer if they don't have gotten to the pavement and street light phase of modern living as you suggest.

Why are they so upset? They have their "free" healthcare, clean skies, and new immigrants to celebrate.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

So that's why I got laughed at for asking for a 60gram spliff.

a reply to: XXXN3O


Bet heads are going to roll at the police station. Wonder if Macron will use the military to squash any rebellion?

As for the butter shortage, great opportunity to use the crisis and bring in the bovine growth hormone.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: stormcell

So the govt took it off the people by the pump tax, that is a worldwide phenomenon really but the French rural types do seem to like a bit of tyre burning. Being honest about it France is quite a large country so you would need reasonable pried fuel. Bit of bummer if they don't have gotten to the pavement and street light phase of modern living as you suggest.

Rural areas are like that in the UK as well. Here is an example in England. This is more or less what rural France looks like:

goo.gl...

No street lights, narrow curved roads, drunk drivers travelling too fast. The only safe way to get around is inside a metal box with wheels and an engine.

Why is it that my natural assumptions seem to be later presented by RT (or maybe before - I just now am reading this). Anyway, this article claims the over-arching reason is the EU's control of French domestic policy and the fact that Macron is a yes man for the bankers and the EU. In the article Macron says something very similar to "let them eat cake". Not the same words, but the same idea. As hapless as any royalty ever was.


www.rt.com...

a reply to: stormcell
I travel roads like that often, and yes, loads of people drive over the limit, it's not like there are any cops around with time to pull you over.
You only get caught if you crash really.
We have lights in my street but they get switched off at midnight lol

originally posted by: Fools
Why is it that my natural assumptions seem to be later presented by RT (or maybe before - I just now am reading this). Anyway, this article claims the over-arching reason is the EU's control of French domestic policy and the fact that Macron is a yes man for the bankers and the EU. In the article Macron says something very similar to "let them eat cake". Not the same words, but the same idea. As hapless as any royalty ever was.


www.rt.com...

Not to put too fine a point on it, but there are parallels to be drawn with Europe today and World War II. The EU is pretty much a modern Third Reich (complete with the Germans being in charge), and Macron is the leader of Vichy France.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Except the Luftwaffe has 3 planes.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

modern soviet by stealth.