Economic Earthquake will rock USA between ending of 2018 & fall of 2019

a reply to: oldcarpy

Really? Are you going also to start to teach here what is to be a good Christian and what it is Not?

That is a very well known old universal law, anybody that is Christian, moreover, anybody that knows something about metaphysics in general know very well that all what we do soon or later come back to us multiplied, either if it is good or if it is bad, we are all responsible of our own actions in the great scheme of things.

You think that you are able to do what you want for ever against Good will people bypassing, circumventing or twisting rules isn't it?

your arrogance overwhelms me, why you don't tell that to Christ himself that mentioned it?.

Matthew 10:15 Verse Concepts "Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.

Luke 10:12 Verse Concepts "I say to you, it will be more tolerable in that day for Sodom than for that city.

Matthew 11:23-24 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. "Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you."

Mark 19: 29“Truly I tell you,” said Jesus, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for My sake and for the gospel 30will fail to receive a hundredfold in the present age—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and fields, along with persecutions—and to receive eternal life in the age to come."

Matthew 19:29
And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for the sake of My name will receive a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life.

Luke 18:29
"Truly I tell you," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: oldcarpy

Really? Are you going also start to teach here what is to be a good Christian and what it is Not? your arrogance overwhelms me.

The Angel of Lightness

No, I will leave that to you. It's more your thing than mine.

How are your other predictions for 2018 coming along?

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: oldcarpy

Really? Are you going also start to teach here what is to be a good Christian and what it is Not? your arrogance overwhelms me.

That is a very well known old universal law, anybody that is Christian, moreover, anybody that knows something about metaphysics in general know very welll that all what we do soon or later come back to us multiplied, either if it is good or if it is bad, we are all responsible of our actions in the great scheme of things.

The Angel of Lightness

You are getting all that from what I posted in my one line post? I think it is more likely coming from inside your own head.

You really think that I deserve to be smited by God for posting on here questioning the accuracy of your predictions?

And I am the arrogant one?

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: oldcarpy



That is a very well known old universal law, anybody that is Christian, moreover, anybody that knows something about metaphysics in general know very welll that all what we do soon or later come back to us multiplied, either if it is good or if it is bad, we are all responsible of our actions in the great scheme of things.

The Angel of Lightness

Isn't that Bhuddism?

a reply to: oldcarpy

Ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps there is something else running here but it is Not what you think at all.

Let me start by responding your first observation or question:

All the great philosophical and religious traditions of the world know about it, in India is called since centuries with the name of Karma, so Buddhism inherit the concept from Induism, but in the west is many times referred in the Bible even 10 or 15 centuries before Christ himself talked about it even by his ancestors Kings David and Solomon or by the Patriarch Moses.

Deuteronomy 32:35 / / / / / 35 It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them.”

Proverbs 20:22 / / / / / 22 Do not say, “I’ll pay you back for this wrong!” Wait for the LORD, and he will avenge you.

Proverbs 24:29
/ / / / /
29 Do not say, “I’ll do to them as they have done to me; I’ll pay them back for what they did.”

Psalm 94:1-2 / / / / / 1 The LORD is a God who avenges. O God who avenges, shine forth. 2 Rise up, Judge of the earth; pay back to the proud what they deserve.

There is nothing unreal in to see that many of my predictions find full accomplishment in the time I expect, take your time and check my queue of threads and you are going to see that, and the ones that last longer anyway became a fact in few more months, rarely in few extra years.

I have been studied by reputed researchers as a seer since years ago and received recognition on this stuff.

Your personal issue with me perhaps is that you don't recognize even the possibility that future can be actually foreseen by the human mind in general, not guessed, not statistically predicted, not merely speculating( with one possible coincidence but other not], but felt precisely by the subconscious mind of some people.

Since that concept does not exist at all for you then your perception is blocked to understand anything about it. You can not for instance notice that each of the earthquakes I predicted were announced in my threads as strong seismic events, that also there were in the regions within many countries I exactly warned were going to have them.

Your mind cannot accept the fact so it pass over those words without even giving to them any weight, although it is proven that each one of the countries of the list were shaken dramatically in spite of the fact that not every year happen that to all of them at the time.

You can check the statistics that it might be probable to have a strong earthquake in one or at most a coincidence to have it on two of the list I gave in a year, but not in all of them without exception.

Your mind is also blocked to see that on late May of 2018 I came with a thread predicting the destruction of a giant Dam somewhere in a tropical land with jungles and tall mountains and large rivers and the collapse actually happened in July on Laos ( country with the characteristics I pointed out), over a complex that was not in trouble at all when I opened my thread.

If you or anybody else in the same situation want to overcome that mental blockage, you need to investigate about conceptual theory of perception and knowledge.

No body can perceive or even sense as real something that He or she thinks does Not exist at all. Authors as Peackoke, Wettstein, Perry, Almog have written deeply on the kind of blockage you have.

Let me give you an example of this:
Suppose Hypothetically a time traveler goes back with a cellular phone of 2018 with some videos recorded on it to the XVII century in Salem, Massachusetts, or to the XVI century in any Italian Village, and show them to people of that time they will never understand that such a thing is technology devised by men, they immediately will consider it as a sorcery of the Devil. Their perception will be constrained by the closest concept they have to try to analyze the fact, so they will instead to acknowledge the science of this century will fire unmercifully the traveler as a witch or wizard.

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Leaving aside the many rather personal assumptions that you make about me, which are about as true and accurate as your predictions I might add, it is interesting that you now say this about your dam prediction:

Your mind is also blocked to see that on late May of 2018 I came with a thread predicting the destruction of a giant Dam somewhere in a tropical land with jungles and tall mountains and large rivers and the collapse actually happened in July on Laos ( country with the characteristics I pointed out), over a complex that was not in trouble at all when I opened my thread.

Your dam prediction actually predicted that the dam was in South America and then narrowed it down to Columbia. It was then pointed out to you that a hydro electric dam in Columbia was in trouble and there was a press article about this which pre-dated your "prediction". Here is your dam prediction.

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light Dear Readers A dream that turned to be a Nightmare: a kind of immense construction colapsing completly under the pressure of millions of tons on water, look like a dam that become terribly broken. The whole walls are going to fall apart and all the fluid stored in the canyon will go down toward a valley in an hour or two at most. Entire towns and even small cities will be sunk bellow the giant flood, is going to be a total disaster, there will be bridges, highways and a lot of houses and buildings demolished by the water in minutes. The region speaks Spanish, a very thick accent that sounds old Castillan, or Sephardic dialect, Spanish with look like Portuguese accent, but again it is in a tropical zone of the Americas, most likely a transition between tall mountains and an extremely low valley, almost at sea level. It looks like somewhere in The South of the Caribbean, could be Venezuela, Costa Rica, Panama o Colombia. The size of the dam is giant, millions of tons of water are there now due to intense rains look like monsoon that have felt along weeks. The entire complex looks like as large as the Panama Canal. People and animals loo like desperate, in collective uncontrolled panic, it Looks like an avalanche caused by an earthquake but the root cause is water under extremely high pressure that can Not go out of a dam. This will occur I believe in hours or days at most, the causal line is so energetic. Hopefully somebody identifies the place and help on time the communities that are menaced by this terrible calamity. I awoke agitated and tried to pray, suddenly a Rosary next to my bed fell from a shelf to the floor, I think is a symbolic fact, the victims trust in the power of the Rosary to the Holy Virgin St Mary. The Angel of Lightness

I see that you are once again trying to make your predictions fit events by trying to alter what you actually said.

You will note that I am sticking to matters that are in your prediction and in your thread in black and white for all to see, rather than rambling on about mistaken personal assumptions and my metaphysical beliefs about which, incidentally, you have no clue.

a reply to: The angel of light

Again, from your dam prediction:

The region speaks Spanish, a very thick accent that sounds old Castillan, or Sephardic dialect, Spanish with look like Portuguese accent, but again it is in a tropical zone of the Americas, most likely a transition between tall mountains and an extremely low valley, almost at sea level.

They do not speak Spanish in Laos, accented or otherwise. Laos is not in the Americas either so no cigar, I'm afraid.

a reply to: The angel of light

Let me give you an example of this: Suppose Hypothetically a time traveler goes back with a cellular phone of 2018 with some videos recorded on it to the XVII century in Salem, Massachusetts, or to the XVI century in any Italian Village, and show them to people of that time they will never understand that such a thing is technology devised by men, they immediately will consider it as a sorcery of the Devil. Their perception will be constrained by the closest concept they have to try to analyze the fact, so they will instead to acknowledge the science of this century will fire unmercifully the traveler as a witch or wizard.

......and your specialist subject is: stating the bleeding obvious! I think I could have worked that one out for myself, thanks. I am surprised that you did not foresee that.

You are merely restating one of Clarke's three laws: -

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

He puts it rather more succinctly than you do.

a reply to: The angel of light

I am so sorry if the thread appears to be negative, I am also sure that there will be reactions of any kind, but please consider that I was one of the few voices in the world on 2017 that correctly foresaw a great Recession coming to America about a year in advance.

Did you? When is that happening?

a reply to: oldcarpy

First at all, if you are going to try to explore that thread do it but respecting its integrity, not taking just partial quoting of what you want to underline but hidden what you don't want to acknowledge.

Your quoting of the opening post pretty much looks tendencious and out of context, since you try to suggest the place was determined and even narrowed by the moment the thread was created.

The place where the tragedy was going to occur remained still uncertain even an entire day after the thread was running:

May 17th 2018, The Angel of Lightness post
May The good Lord help the readers of my threads in Colombia ,Venezuela or North Brazil to pay attention today on this friendly warning, it is matter of death or life for thousands.

Please don't bias my sayings through your own judgement, mixing them with your own recollections or interpretations.

Second, You are not taking the corresponding opening post as it was originally posted but strategically quoting it to create an impression of precision from my side in suggesting a particular language.

I was not even sure if it was Spanish or Portuguese and considering the particular way South eastern Asian people pronounce French who can blame me for the misidentification.

Angel of Lightness Opening May 17th 2018: Giant Flood like in Noah times, Horrible disaster in South America!?(Colombia,Venezuela, Brazil??)

The opening post had very visible question mark, since neither Location nor culture or language were clearly identified, although certainly gave a description of the characteristics of the region, the soon expected date and of the magnitude of the disaster.

After I recognized to don't be sure of where the event was going to take place I tried to narrow possible search for location wondering if it was in this side of the world so the logical choices were Venezuela, Brazil, Costa rica, Panama or Colombia.

Third, I am under the impression that you are focusing a lot in ulterior observations posted days after that thread was opened, since the possible place was narrowed not from my own decision or initiative but responding to what the people were suggesting.

Angel of Lightness Opening post May 17th 2018: It looks like somewhere in The South of the Caribbean, could be Venezuela, Costa Rica, Panama o Colombia.

Fourth, in the very beginning of that thread I was never sure of the country the Dam was located, that is also the reason I was asking for help of other members to try to identify a possible location, and the language was also known only that was a romance one, that reduced the search to Portuguese, Spanish, or French.

Opening post Angel of Lightness May 17th 2018: Hopefully somebody identifies the place and help on time the communities that are menaced by this terrible calamity.

Colombia only became a strong candidate after It was already narrowed from all the tropical areas of the world to the ones of the Americas and some people contacting me mentioned that they were informed an emergency of that kind was expecting to occur in the west of their country. That happened days after the thread was created, not in its very beginning as you try to show.

In the second post of that thread I even was wondering if it was someplace in the far-east not far from Hawaii.

May 17th 2018 Post by Angel of Lightness:
This is not Hawaii, nothing to do with that Island, it is in inland of a large continent, the river that goes into and out of the dam is extremely large, nothing like it may exist in any island, it is thousands of kilometers large and carrying water like the Missouri or Mississippi rivers of America. Also the mountains to the south can reach twice as tall than the Hawaiian ones.

The Things I was sure were that it was in a tropical country, with extremely tall mountains and large rivers crossing jungles and valleys, that the language was Romance, and the Dam was Giant , able to cause a large flood over an entire region, and going to break in that same season.

People in Attapeu Province, south Laos in the border with Vietnam and Cambodia speak also French, it has one of the important Catholic communities of Far east, they cultivate Coffee among other things and it has the geography that fits perfectly with what I was foreseen in all aspects, long rivers running in valleys between tall mountains surrounding by tropical forest or jungle.

Please check:
Catholics of Attapeu Province , Vicriate of Pakse in Laos

South Laos Attapeu Plato High quality coffee plantations.

Where is the Cigar you mentioned in my original post??
Are you quoting me or just writing a novel about me?
Is this taking from your non authorized biography of the Angel of Lightness??

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

First at all, if you are going to try to explore that thread do it but respecting its integrity, not taking just partial quoting of what you want to underline but hidden what you don't want to acknowledge.

Coming from you, that's pretty rich! That just about sums up your post under reply.

You predicted it was a region where they spoke Spanish with a Portugese accent but now you claim they speak French in a part of Laos and there is a Catholic community there which is close enough.

That really is a bit of a stretch, no?

a reply to: The angel of light

All the great philosophical and religious traditions of the world know about it, in India is called since centuries with the name of Karma, so Buddhism inherit the concept from Induism, but in the west is many times referred in the Bible even 10 or 15 centuries before Christ himself talked about it even by his ancestors Kings David and Solomon or by the Patriarch Moses.

Interesting. Karma is largely a Buddhist/Hindu teaching and it's whole basis is predicated in the concept of reincarnation, over and over again. To the Christian there is no endless cycle of life, death and rebirth, there is but one birth and one death and the reward is either in heaven or in hell.

There is in Christianity the Law of Harvest, sowing and reaping, but this is a fundamentally different concept to that of karma.

That is wholly incompatible with the Christian faith which is, of course, based upon having one life on Earth and resurrection rather than reincarnation.

Your Bible quotes do not refer to karma, unsurprisingly.

God is the perfect and Holy judge of the Earth, not karma, according to Christians.

Karma is a concept that promotes salvation by works and any believer in Christ should, surely, remove it from their vocabulary?

a reply to: The angel of light

Where is the Cigar you mentioned in my original post?? Are you quoting me or just writing a novel about me? Is this taking from your non authorized biography of the Angel of Lightness??

Oh dear. Never heard of the expression "Close, but no cigar", I guess?

The Peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
Dear readers,

I hope all of you are Ok now, perhaps you acted prudentially and started to follow the advising that was given to you on November when this thread was open in order to be well prepared when the economy finally crashes.

A month has passed since the last time I came to this thread to face the usual criticism of the skepticals, but well in spite of their concerns the reality is that this prediction is becoming reality right now.

Today what it was then perhaps for many just look like a speculation is a fact, we have seen the worst week of Wall Street on an entire decade, yes a decade means that this behavior is bad not just compared with early Obama years but with the last year of George W Bush on power, that was under the great recession already declared.

We are now already in a recession so this is time not to loose our heads but to act cautiously, to think carefully how to handle all of our expenses, decide intelligently in order to have under control any credit previously acquired, and to don't have any new debt as I clearly warned you to avoid on the opening post of the thread.

Please don't panic but think that this recession will last possibly for the entire 2019, and I think that is an optimistic perspective, so we must be prepared for that scenario in all our plans. This is not time to spend on these Holidays unrealistic amounts of money on things that are not really necessary or will not give us service for more than few days or weeks.

Value is an important criteria to consider to plan our investments, only what represents an assured value must catch our attention and interest, this is not time to risk our current job but to do all what is on our hands to retain it.

Pls check:

Worst week in a Decade for Wall Street - Bear Market declared

Nasdaq confirms Bear Market, Wall street sinks under Economy worries

I am sorry if I looked as to have ignored some last replies, but I use to apply my own advising to myself therefore I saved precious time I really needed in to make correct decisions on my own businesses and investments, naturally I couldn't continue wasting it on useless discussions that were going to no where.

Thanks for your attention to the thread.

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

I am sorry if I looked as to have ignored some last replies, but I use to apply my own advising to myself therefore I saved precious time I really needed in to make correct decisions on my own businesses and investments, naturally I couldn't continue wasting it on useless discussions that were going to no where.

I read that as "I have no answer to any of those".

Still think that karma is compatible with Christianity?

a reply to: oldcarpy

obviously karma is compatible with Christianity what do you think going to hell to pay for your sins has to do with?

Five things affecting the stock market:
1. Bad press/ manipulative lies in news.
2. The November election. Its the democrats. (I want to slap them all. I can't help feeling that way.)
3. The impending Chinese tariff war. Which in the long term of seven years will be to our benefit.
4. The feds trying to raise the interest rates scares people psychologically.
5. People normally sell their dud stocks off before the end of the year to claim a loss on their taxes. Then they buy them all back in January. I have done that.

I really think that spending money to fix bridges, roads, the wall, and other infer structure will keep the economy going. I don't think the numbers of employment were as high as they reported. Too many coupons, sales, and petty theft is happening. They were really pushing the sale of candles this holiday. I thought that was really weird. Rumors of the DHS telling people to prepare for EMP electrical grid attack. Another rumor of the mofia and the government going to war in the USA, was something somebody told me. So many people are unhappy they aren't getting all their phones, braces, food stamps, Medicaid, welfare checks for free from the government. My neice grew up expecting these handouts. She is an angry college student not wanting to work for stuff. These divorced kids have trouble fitting in and getting along with others with this sense of entitlement that someone is going to give it to her. She didn't work a summer job, they wanted her to wipe peoples butts at a nursing home. She would have made six thousand over the summer. She declined the job. Which was stupid of her. I wiped my kids butts for free for seven years. Things are just fine. People just need to stop making trouble and get busy working. Trump professionally spanked everyone in the name of the working class.

a reply to: The angel of light


Hi 'lightness'

Can you please explain by what parameters you are choosing to define a recession and/or 'economic earthquake?'

This way we can see if it comes to pass or not. Perhaps based on how many overall points the DJ or S&P will go down from today's date? Or perhaps based on total $ in debt? Perhaps based on # of Forbes 500 companies who go bankrupt?

Thanks!

PS You never answered what your native language is? Just curious.

a reply to: frugal

I think you are only right about #4, the rest of the market is reacting to other things

tradingeconomics.com...

www.marketwatch.com...

Stocks struggle for direction as slowing global growth offsets higher oil prices

a reply to: frugal

I Think you are doing an important job in to understand what is going on here,

The insistence on to build a medieval solution to problems that are also not well understood, in this case a wall as large as the great wall of China, is forcing the shutting down of the Federal government and that logically has sent a terrible negative message to the investors, spreading uncertainty about many things on which the world of businesses require the government.

How the IRS will guarantee an effective handling of all the tax returns of the country along it?

What is going to occur with the customs duty normal operation required for the circulation of trading of thousands of products imported and exported to and from America?

When there are so many more prioritarian real problems to work on, as for instance the lack of access of millions of Americans to a good public education system on their early years, or what it is even more critical to affordable colleges and Universities, or to find the way to guarantee the access of millions to the health services they require, to spend more than a billion of dollars in a pharaonic project as that one is a an insult to the needs of many.

With the government shutdown there are many public services that can be affected or simply are not going to be offered at all as along as this situation prevails, how people can for instance obtain a new passport?

how federal crimes could be investigated and prosecuted by FBI?

How about the national security affected by this shutting down?

How the space and the seas of the country are going to be effectively monitored?

For how long the arm forces can continue working on this scenario? there considerations as grave as for instance to do all what is needed to prevent terrorism that can be jeopardized with this.

How the Consumer Product Safety Commission can investigate or recall products that might cause injuries ?

How the U.S. Department of Agriculture could issue any statistical or economic reports, including those on the prices and supply levels of agricultural goods?. These reports are especially important to commodities markets.

How the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was not able to conduct "in-depth investigations to identify and link outbreaks that may be occurring simultaneously in multiple states?

How the FDA can do their routine food safety inspections as well as most of its laboratory research?

What is going to happen with the civil litigation at the Department of Justice? how many processes are going to be affected?.

How about the Labor Department payments for unemployment insurance and workers' compensation claims?.

what is going to happen with the Air traffic controllers required on airports that work for the Department of transportation?

These are not all the potential issues we are going to deal with and everyone of them can represent bottle necks to the normal flow of the Economy.

A shutdown of the Federal government is something No responsible administration can bargain with.

These doubts and fears triggered by the shutting down of the government are the ones that have caused in the end of 2018 the worst December performance in Wall street since the great depression.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness