VENEZEULA BEING INVADED OCT NOV 2 groups of 40 ships OFF SHORE Now Pre planned in DC Classified

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: worldstarcountry

The days of amphibious invasion are largely over. If something was coming it would be by air. There might be an amphibious operation at some point but not until after the air portion was over.

air cav is used for quick hits (airport, radio station) but boats still needed for heavy gear and numbers.

if there was an op going on surprise element probly already gone.
I want regime change but I don't want blood. too bad that Maduro idiot won't just do us a favor and pack up and leave. longer he stays, more chance of ending up like Mussolini.

a reply to: ElGoobero

That's why I said at some point. You're not going to see a massive ship buildup like you would have in previous wars. Cav would take an airfield and C-130s and C-17s would bring gear in at first, then once air superiority and defenses were knocked down the sea based heavy lift units would come in.

When you can confirm that a Carrier Strike Group and a Marine Expeditionary Unit are off shore, wake me. Until then, you are pulling this crap out of a dark hole near you. What utter horse pucky.

Ground invasion?

The most important fact about Venezuala is that the documentary known as Arachnophobia begins in Venezuala. The killer spider that mates with the common house spider creating the super spiders, comes from Venezuala.

I think we should at least consider surrendering. It shouldn't be off the table is all I'm saying.

originally posted by: schuyler
When you can confirm that a Carrier Strike Group and a Marine Expeditionary Unit are off shore, wake me. Until then, you are pulling this crap out of a dark hole near you. What utter horse pucky.

Near or on?

a very amusing thread - based on utter bollox

after 3 pages - there is not even a concencus amongst " believers " - of even which navy [ or coalition ] these alledged vessels belong to

its hilarious that china and russia are mentioned - with zero evidence of how they got this alledged armada to the SW caribean - utterly un noticed

people really need to understand the strengths and weaknesses of AIS tracking [ or more important - the weaknesses of free AIS track apps ]

ETA - even free AIS track apps - have one nifty feature - that it SEEMS no one has discovered yet

a reply to: paraphi

nut-job regime will be overthrown from within.

The trick is to use the CIA to "assist" in forming a new Government with locals loyal to US petroleum interests.

Either way the general population is effed.

But being South America what else is new - corporations - working closely with military dictator's.

Will the U.S. be invading Venezuela?
Short answer: No.

Will there be a North Korean type "intervention" in the future?
Short answer: That is a distinct possibility.

a reply to: TheJesuit

Not only is war pointless but all of what is reported to the public is always inaccurate.

a reply to: 3n19m470
We will accept near. Up to 100miles is within reason.

ill wait and see if it hits the news cycle prolonged and en mass...... There it is.....

Russia and Iran has Extensive Military advisors in Venezuela!!!!

Maduro has so far managed to dismantle a series of plots with the aid of Cuban, Russian and some Iranian security advisors, who manage extensive surveillance systems, internal spy networks and paramilitary militias comparable to those in the world's most repressive police states.

The Obama administration, by contrast, gave Venezuela low priority. It dismantled an interagency task force created by President G.W. Bush to investigate the regime’s ties with Iran, despite evidence that Qods officers and Hezbollah cells were active there.
Current Story:
www.foxnews.com...

What disgusts me most is 3 pages of people living in the very nation that has spent decades on destabilizing this nation with attempted coups and assassinations, as well as social and economic espionage, disparaging the people and government of Venezuela for its dismal failure. Venezuela, right now, looks exactly like every single other nation that we’ve sanctioned and hit with ngos and fake, us funded “insurgency” ala cia. Damn fools can’t put 2 and 2 together to get 4, and fail to recognize repeating history.

I think what you fail to recognize is that Communism like other Communist Nations becomes a dismal failure, the attempted coups are due to corruption internally and by the very unhappy people that live there. if your SO disgusted with the very people living happily in a strong & Flourishing Democracy maybe you should move there and see how that fits you.

Please educate yourself look at their wages, growth, inflation, Corruption..ect ect Here read this for a Clue..sorry i mean perspective:

cointelegraph.com...



a reply to: pexx421

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: TheJesuit

LoL this guy talks about how people are uneducated but apparently doesnt understand what the hell is going on in venezuela and how people are starving to death..........

So that means we're allegedly going yo invade and bomb them to feed the snip out of them, kind a like how we liberated the snip out of Iraq in Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL)?

And that totally makes sense to you? And you're going to pay for it?

a reply to: TheJesuit

maybe baby



Venezuelans need to rescue their own nation from the CORRUPT SOCIALISTS...


Maybe

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People....
The Chinese do not have sufficient naval power to project a landing force into the Caribbean sea.
They have 3 Surface action fleets that cover their home waters.
Lets suppose that 1 of those fleets was wholly committed to this action. Setting aside the fact that it would pull at least 1/3 of their surface naval forces to the other side of the globe. That fleet would still only barely constitute 40 ships.
In total the Chinese Surface fleet consists today of
1 Carrier
4 Landing Ship Dock
30 Landing Ship Tanks (are not suited crossing open ocaen they are shallow water only)
31 Landing Ship Medium (again not suited for open ocean)
20 Destroyers
40 Frigates

So 1/3 of the fleet capability that could be moved to Venezula would be
1 Carrier
1 LPD
7 Destroyers
13 Frigates

Thats not really a landing force and its not really covering its logistical tail either.
Its also not even addressing the fact that if China or Russia for that matter parked a fleet of any size in the islands right in the US back yard we would be talking about that all over the news and shadowing it with US Naval forces and Air power.


If it was a US fleet that would also constitute a significant force and many people would already know that their families were moving to do "something". Mumblings would be circulating and given the amount of civilan air and sea traffic in the Carribean it would have been seen and mentioned to people in passing. In short there would already be rumors that would corroborate this story.

It COULD be a possible "free Venezualian army" living on cargo ships ready to be landed in a Bay of Pigs type action.
That would be US spponsored and supported but made up almost completely of Venezualian men wanting to liberate their country.


***************I did leave out their Fleet replenishment ships and Auxilaries which could push the fleet to a larger size but it would not change the fact that they would not have sufficent capability to land troops or protect them***********************

a reply to: TheJesuit

I live on an island 50 miles away from the one you're mentioning. In fact we are part of the same kingdom. If there are an unusual amount of military vessels there I would've known already. I know that island, follow the news on that island in it's native language (Papiamentu) and have friends and relatives on that island. And I have a great view of the ocean from my house in which I can clearly see Venezuela on a clear day (like today). I haven't seen or heard of anything unusual happening.

a reply to: TheBandit795

Oops.

Oh yeah, I also live exactly one kilometer north of the marine base in Aruba. Like I said, I would've noticed something.

a reply to: pexx421
Oh we recognize it just fine. Some of us prefer to repeat history. Especially if it is in our civilization's interests to do so.