originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: chr0naut
Let's see. He died, rose again after 3 days, walked around for a while and ascended to heaven. Where's the proof? My bad, his body ascended and was
never seen again.
The fact that within 100 years of Jesus death, Christianity had representatives nearly worldwide, some who were martyred rather than renounce His
existence. Surely the sudden existence and rapid growth of such a movement indicates that it must have an actual cause?
The existence of Jesus, several of His disciples and other personages referred to in the Gospels, was mentioned by Josephus. (Even if you discount the
passage that directly mentions Jesus as an inclusion by later Christians, there is enough cross corroboration of facts and people to assume the
historicity of Jesus).
There are records of official Roman legal policy to deal with Christianity specifically. Pliny the Younger (Epistulae X.96) wrote to Emperor Trajan
about what to do with the Christians and the Emperor Trajan replied with four orders.
The persecution against the early Christians were recorded in the secular writings of Tacitus ('Annals' 15:44), Seutonius ('The Lives of the Twelve
Caesars', Nero 16) and Pliny. Also, Tertullian mentioned the persecution of Christians, but he was a Christian, so he must have been biased.
Christianity also had offshoot faiths that sprang up in opposition to it (eg: Gnostics).
Even if we ignore "that book" (actually a collection of books), then, of course, there are all those Christian histories and commentaries that are
roughly contemporary with the early Christians (the Epistle of Barnabas, the Shepherd of Hermas, the Epistles of Clement, the Didache, Ignatius of
Antioch, Justin Martyr, Tatian, and Clement of Alexandria.
Now, where's the proof except "that book"? What's that you said about gibberish again...?
May your God go with you brother/sister.
Also, where are the bodies of Julius Caesar, or Cicero, or Plato?
Produce the proof, or...
edit on 2/8/2018 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)