Poor people in the UK can't eat healthy food because...

a reply to: BrianFlanders

Why I posted the thread is off-topic and irrelevant to the debate.
Do you wish to reply to any of the specific points I raised in the OP? I made quite a few observations about poor people in the UK and the ability to afford healthy food if one is prepared to make the effort to cook. Take your pick.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: BrianFlanders

Why I posted the thread is off-topic and irrelevant to the debate.

Well, no it isn't. If there wasn't a reason for you to post the thread you wouldn't have posted it and we wouldn't be having any "debate".

a reply to: BrianFlanders
Yes me (the poster not the post) and my intentions are off-topic and irrelevant, so again do you have any on-topic comments or input toward the specific points in the thread?
We can always ask a mod if you are being off topic by continuing with your questions about me personally.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: BrianFlanders
Yes me (the poster not the post) and my intentions are off-topic and irrelevant, so again do you have any on-topic comments or input toward the specific points in the thread?
We can always ask a mod if you are being off topic by continuing with your questions about me personally.

OK. Poor people in the UK don't have to eat healthy food if they don't want to because they have the right to choose. It's not anyone's place to tell them what to eat. They don't actually NEED an excuse.

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
OK. Poor people in the UK don't have to eat healthy food if they don't want to because they have the right to choose. It's not anyone's place to tell them what to eat. They don't actually NEED an excuse.

I agree completely they can eat what they like, they have the right to choose, I haven't ever told anyone except my son what they should eat, and of course they don't need an excuse, I'm just debunking the excuses as listed in the OP that I read on ATS and other forums.

I think if you had read the OP you would see that we agree entirely, so I don't really see what point you are trying to make except express agreement with me in this thread.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

If you are passing out or your medication makes you drowsy CornishCeltGuy using power tools might not be the best of ideas.

I suffer from blackouts myself(More like whiteouts) down to PTSD so i can understand the restraints blackouts can put on finding employment just down to insurance concerns alone.

Needs must though, eh?

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: andy06shake
You are on about single people aged under 25. That is the only group on such a sum of money.
Their local housing allowance is also only the amount (just) for a single rented room in a shared house so there would be no bills on top.
I agree, being under 25 it is savage.

I have been getting the princley sum of £73 per week ESA after the tens of thousands I've paid in taxes over the years lol.
I can live on it though

You mean younger people in the UK socialist system aren't getting as much money as older people? Interesting. Please tell us more. I thought socialism was all about equality.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

just never know. Rose root, that's interesting..... raw or cooked ?

Rose root i have raw and powdered. Sometimes fresh. I am very lucky that i can grow it where i live. Infact i grows wild all over the cliffs.

It is one of my favorite herbs

Neat, I'll have to try it

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Tories are not about equality, that's a given.

As to socialism, well no matter which way you wish to slice it this nation is a monarchy.

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Muninn

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: Muninn

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Muninn

Last time I'll ask mate, have you got any on-topic contribution to make to this thread?
All mature reasoned arguments are welcome about the topic, not me or my intentions making the thread.

What happens then?

On topic, I would love to see the actual bill for those groceries.

How is that on-topic? All you are doing now is switching from labeling me a 'fat shamer' to now a liar.
Discuss the topic, not me and my intentions. I've asked you lots of times now.
Argue my points if you disagree with any of them. This is not facebook mate.

I don't believe those costs, prove me wrong.

Most poor areas in the u.s don't have a cheap grocery store in walking distance to them but they have plenty of fast food places up in those areas.

Then walk further, fatso. Two birds, one stone.

Agreed with OP. Far cheaper to eat healthier and far quicker and tastier too if you buy a slow cooker and put stuff in the pot before heading to work or 1000s of meals that take under 20 mins total prep and cook which isn't long (especially when it can be frozen/reheated/eaten as leftovers). I spend around £20 a week to eat very well, done it on £3 a week before but wasn't the tastiest of diets.

Calling people fatso, classy.

How is it quicker to cook a meal in a "slow cooker" compared to getting fast food.

a reply to: andy06shake
They are 'whiteouts' for me mate, like an electrical shock shaking my brain, can't see (all bright white) can't hear (all white noise like an electric shock, hit the floor because I have no awareness of my surroundings or up and down. Only lasts a few seconds but I'm disorientated and dizzy for a few minutes or more when I come round.
Don't worry, I won't be using a grinder or anything like that, just regular drills/saws and stuff which switches off when my finger is off the trigger...I usually get half a second warning with a feeling in my head and increased tennatis just before so I drop to thee floor quick to avoid cuts, bruises, and grazes.

Speaking of 'socialist' stuff in the UK, I've had fantastic service from the NHS trying to find a cause, all manner of tests, ECG's, heart monitor for a week, and CT scans. I had to stop taking the drug for a few days to shake my head around in the machine to set an episode off while being scanned on Friday, it worked, should get the results Tuesday, back on the drug immediately afterwards and a mate drove me home lol

If you wanna chat about anything like this or any other off-topic thing in any thread pop into my 'Banter Cafe Open 24 hours' thread in general chat, nothing is off-topic there.
Same to anyone reading this, I created it as a place for that, sometimes the off-shoot sidetracks are really interesting so the 'cafe' thread is a place for that, and of course any funny banter.

originally posted by: Muninn
How is it quicker to cook a meal in a "slow cooker" compared to getting fast food.

5-10 minutes preperation time in the morning, then hot cooked food waiting for you when you get in after work.
I use mine a lot in winter, bad boy hearty meat and veg in gravy waiting patiently to be eaten.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
OK. Poor people in the UK don't have to eat healthy food if they don't want to because they have the right to choose. It's not anyone's place to tell them what to eat. They don't actually NEED an excuse.

I agree completely they can eat what they like, they have the right to choose, I haven't ever told anyone except my son what they should eat, and of course they don't need an excuse, I'm just debunking the excuses as listed in the OP that I read on ATS and other forums.

Why? I'm sincerely curious as to why someone would feel the need to debunk "excuses" if he/she doesn't feel they're even necessary?

To be honest with you, I haven't even heard the excuses because I would never ask a complete stranger why they don't eat healthy food unless they expressed a desire to eat healthy food. If they seem perfectly happy eating what they're eating, I'm fine with that. I don't care why.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

This is the 2nd thread to talk about fat people in other parts of the world than me. I live in the US, and it used to sound like we had the corner market on fat/unhealthy people. Now I hear folk in Asia are getting fat (earlier thread) and folks in the UK as well, per this thread.

Hmmm, who is fattening us up for the kill on a worldwide scale?
(Oh come on, this IS a conspiracy website!)

a reply to: new_here

I told you all Soylent Green the movie was an actual documentary sent back in time from the future.
You get a much better tasting Soylent green if the fat content is quite high.
That is why they are fattening us up.

a reply to: BrianFlanders

I've seen the excuses often on ATS threads and other forums so why not?

a reply to: new_here
We have tens of thousands of foreign students in my parts every summer and it used to be the Scandinavians were always fit slim, now even they are getting fatter. All my mates agree the same thing watching it over the decades.
It is a global problem now, except for maybe indiginous tribes as yet untouched by crap processed food...they'll be next on the corporations wish list if there's money to be made for sure.

a reply to: testingtesting
I hope it's not a global conspiracy, I like my meat products lean, I even cut the fatty rind off my bacon nefore grilling it!

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: Nyiah
Taking away the poverty aspect of the OP's rant, he can shove his opinion up his delicate English fanny for all I care.

Well you can stuff your own opinion up your own fanny as well, it matters little to me, you needlessly aggressive person.

Nah, not needlessly aggressive, or aggressive in general. I'm simply not sugarcoating it. Having been the only kid in the Home Ec class in that particular teacher's career that caught the stove on fire, and was subsequently transferred out to another elective class at the end of the semester because I big fat F failed it despite trying damn hard not to (well, they said I wasn't doing myself any good in something I couldn't get the hang of, but I personally think they moved me to Comp Tech because I was a fire hazard)

I think it's fair to say you're being a rather blatant Richard Cranium on a High Horse not willing to consider that at least some folks are simply naturally incapable of cooking without being a proverbial disaster in the process. My kitchen ineptitude is quite well known on ATS, and I can't imagine I'm in some dinky minority of the cooking inept, either.

Oh and fanny is the slang word in Britain for vagina, my example of rudeness works better with the same word lol

I know what it means in the UK. Quit whining like a woman, and I'll stop insinuating you are one.

a reply to: Nyiah
Lol, I haven't whined at all so choose another way to insult me and at least make it appropriate. Whining is complaining about something which makes one feel distressed or something, none of that applies to me in this thread so chosse another line and try again.

I feel sad for you and your defeatist attitude that you are incapable of following instructions for the most basic thing in life cooking food to keep yourself alive. Cooking is simply setting temperatures, timings, measurements and methods of combining ingredients. Even my son could cook aged 14, heck my mates son cooked his first roast dinner for the family aged 12. It must be awful to be unable to follow basic instructions on how to combine foods and use a scales, turn a dial on an oven and use knives and utensils to stir things with.
I feel for you and send warm love with hope for the future you will succeed in this most basic of human needs...preparing food to keep yourself alive.

EDIT
Whining like a 'woman' is a bit sexist and rather a 1970's thing to say, I'm surprised you came out with that.