TWITTER HORROR: Chelsea Manning Tweets Suicide Note and Picture of Herself on Ledge of a Tall Buildi

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Indrasweb
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

But the thing is, it is NOT considered a personality disorder to be transgender. That's not to say one could not be transgender and have a personality disorder.

Doesn't mean it's not. That fact just shows the extremes to which PC culture has gone. People can actually get away with this nonsense. The insane have taken over the asylum. The guy (yes, guy) is a traitor and ought to have been shot.

0.3% has taken over? LMAO!

I meant the whole PC culture, which you ought to have realized.

The Soviets invented PC and the conservatives "reinvented" it.
The more you know.

Anyway, I really wanted to come here to say that I am really deeply sorry that Manning is going through this. I wish there was something I could do to help after all he did to try to help us.

As far as the whole transgender issue, I do believe, whatever side of the argument you find yourself on, that the story of Chealsie Manning is very relevant and important.

If there was never a Private Manning, would there have ever been an Edward Snowden? A Seth Rich?

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Indrasweb
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

But the thing is, it is NOT considered a personality disorder to be transgender. That's not to say one could not be transgender and have a personality disorder.

Doesn't mean it's not. That fact just shows the extremes to which PC culture has gone. People can actually get away with this nonsense. The insane have taken over the asylum. The guy (yes, guy) is a traitor and ought to have been shot.

0.3% has taken over? LMAO!

I meant the whole PC culture, which you ought to have realized.

The Soviets invented PC and the conservatives "reinvented" it.
The more you know.

And then the liberals reinvented it back into the version their Soviet Cousins preferred. The kind that destroys you.

When christian fundies complained about a musicians content, their record sold More and they got talk show deals. Not really the same... but, thanks for reminding us of the Soviet roots of the current liberal school of thought.

Anyway it was fun chatting, no hard feelings of course, but i am gonna leave the thread for now. to all

a reply to: 3n19m470

Anyway, I really wanted to come here to say that I am really deeply sorry that Manning is going through this. I wish there was something I could do to help after all he did to try to help us.

I agree. (See we can agree about something lol). She gets bullied for this and on the top she gets bullied for being a transgender person. I cannot see how she can take it.

originally posted by: carewemust
I'm glad she didn't try to take anyone else with her, and I hope she doesn't land on someone. There's enough murder in this country.

I'm reliably informed that the tweet Manning posted immediately before this photo and suicide note simply said "you're probably wondering why I'm not 50 points ahead..."

originally posted by: Indrasweb
a reply to: watchitburn

If they're tweeting it complete with a photo it's likely either

a) some kind of rather horrific (though maybe well intentioned?) attempt at a publicity stunt (maybe to draw attention to suicide or some such thing)

Or

b) this person has a personality disorder

Can't they just be sad and disappointed?

This world is pretty messed up, it's pretty easy to feel sad.

I don't agree with your use of that terminology.

Too many making light of this situation. There is nothing fun about depression.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

You seem not to understand gender dysphoria. Researches in neuroscience point to the biological basis of gender in the brain.

Well biology points to dangly bits or lack there of

LOL. Well duh? Anyway I'll use the intersex (born with both male and female parts) people as an example. What do they "think" they are? Male or female? Did you know that parents and doctors used to decide the sex of intersex babies? After the "decision" and surgery, many of them usually felt "wrong" with their sexes.

And how many transgenders were born hermaphrodites?

Strawman argument much?

More than you think. Not all intersex conditions mean what you think. For example (personal disclosure), I had hypospadia (urethra exiting penis along the shaft) which means I developed as a girl, mom was told I was a girl in the womb, but then started developing the dangly thing.

I didn't even know about this until I was an adult, taking to my surgeon for a consult and he was like "you never wondered what that scarring was?", lol.

That and other inconspicuous conditions coincide with gender dysphoria quite a bit. Enough so that, combined with recent findings about neurological commonalities, it's becoming more and more impossible to claim that it's all in our heads. Because it's actually our bodies that were #ed to begin with.

So you are a girl born with a dangler? Did you have a set of nuts or a uterus with fallopian tubes?

As is every woman with gender dysphoria, yes.

originally posted by: Abysha
As is every woman with gender dysphoria, yes.

see my previous post I expanded the question.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

You seem not to understand gender dysphoria. Researches in neuroscience point to the biological basis of gender in the brain.

Well biology points to dangly bits or lack there of

LOL. Well duh? Anyway I'll use the intersex (born with both male and female parts) people as an example. What do they "think" they are? Male or female? Did you know that parents and doctors used to decide the sex of intersex babies? After the "decision" and surgery, many of them usually felt "wrong" with their sexes.

And how many transgenders were born hermaphrodites?

Strawman argument much?

More than you think. Not all intersex conditions mean what you think. For example (personal disclosure), I had hypospadia (urethra exiting penis along the shaft) which means I developed as a girl, mom was told I was a girl in the womb, but then started developing the dangly thing.

I didn't even know about this until I was an adult, taking to my surgeon for a consult and he was like "you never wondered what that scarring was?", lol.

That and other inconspicuous conditions coincide with gender dysphoria quite a bit. Enough so that, combined with recent findings about neurological commonalities, it's becoming more and more impossible to claim that it's all in our heads. Because it's actually our bodies that were #ed to begin with.

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

Why are you so callous about this? Only a total asshole would say the things you say about this.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Abysha
As is every woman with gender dysphoria, yes.

see my previous post I expanded the question.

See my previous quote, I expanded on your asshole question

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Abysha
As is every woman with gender dysphoria, yes.

see my previous post I expanded the question.

See my previous quote, I expanded on your asshole question

So you were born reproductively as a female, it's pretty simple what you are except I concede it would take some years of development and understanding to know the obvious that you were born to reproduce as a female.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

The hate is evident, the angst is expressed simplistically, I can understand it.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

The hate is evident, the angst is expressed simplistically, I can understand it.

Wow. You admit your own hate and angst.
Grats.
Keep going and you might get healed soon.

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

The hate is evident, the angst is expressed simplistically, I can understand it.

Wow. You admit your own hate and angst.
Grats.
Keep going and you might get healed soon.

Now you are expressing confusion, unknowing how to react. That's ok, low IQ could be the reason and we will all understand.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

The hate is evident, the angst is expressed simplistically, I can understand it.

Wow. You admit your own hate and angst.
Grats.
Keep going and you might get healed soon.

Now you are expressing confusion, unknowing how to react. That's ok, low IQ could be the reason and we will all understand.

You are doing a damage control. It's ok. Just save your face.

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

The hate is evident, the angst is expressed simplistically, I can understand it.

Wow. You admit your own hate and angst.
Grats.
Keep going and you might get healed soon.

Now you are expressing confusion, unknowing how to react. That's ok, low IQ could be the reason and we will all understand.

You are doing a damage control. It's ok. Just save your face.

What parts were you born with that are confusing?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: RowanBean
a reply to: TinfoilTP

So you are a girl born with a dangler?

So you are a genius born without a brain?
See how easy I can I make a statement like that?

The hate is evident, the angst is expressed simplistically, I can understand it.

Wow. You admit your own hate and angst.
Grats.
Keep going and you might get healed soon.

Now you are expressing confusion, unknowing how to react. That's ok, low IQ could be the reason and we will all understand.

You are doing a damage control. It's ok. Just save your face.

What parts were you born with that are confusing?

That isn't how you do a damage control. You'd be bad at PR.