Russia and Syria block chemical weapons inspectors access to the site in Douma

a reply to: Jay-morris

You are posting all this evidence the West has put forward, to justify what they are doing towards Russia. But they done the same thing with Libya and Iraq.

What are they doing towards Russia? Not sure what you mean.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Jay-morris

You are posting all this evidence the West has put forward, to justify what they are doing towards Russia. But they done the same thing with Libya and Iraq.

What are they doing towards Russia? Not sure what you mean.

Public manipulation, false media, arming terrorists to overthrow a givernment for their own agenda ( pipeline from Qatar into Europe)

The west only do things like this if it benafits them. If that was not the case, then we eould be in Yemen!

a reply to: Jay-morris

Agree that our position on Yemen is shameful.

Russia of course does not manipulate the public by its state controlled media nor does it engage in "false media" much, then?

As for overthrowing Govts, Russia generally does that too. Georgia, Crimea etc.

Russia pursues its own agenda too.

Most countries act in their own national interest and have an agenda.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Jay-morris

Agree that our position on Yemen is shameful.

Russia of course does not manipulate the public by its state controlled media nor does it engage in "false media" much, then?

As for overthrowing Govts, Russia generally does that too. Georgia, Crimea etc.

Russia pursues its own agenda too.

Most countries act in their own national interest and have an agenda.

Yes, Yemen proves that unless it benafits us, we will not get involved. The west has never cared for the people of the country they illegally invade. It is not about freeing the people.

Yes, Russia, as with other countries are guilty if propaganda and that news. We are all being played at the end of the day.

That is why they brainwash people to love their country, to be patriotic for their country, becsuse then it means that people will point fingers at other countries , and ignore the horrors it's own country does.

It is a tactic that has been used for centuries.

That is why i question the West when it comes to Syria and Russia. Because we all know the West has done this before twice in the ladt decade or so.

So, knowing that they have lied, manipalated, used fake news, and false flags, I just find it hard that people can just blindly believe that this time, everything the West is doing and saying is right.

a reply to: Jay-morris


Nations act in accordance with their own vested interests. Shock! Horror! Probe! etc.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Jay-morris


Nations act in accordance with their own vested interests. Shock! Horror! Probe! etc.

Not national interests, their interests. You really think they vive a crap about the average Joe on the street? Of course not! It is all about control and power!

I don't think it's solvable without more evidence. I am surprised that I haven't heard the almaz antey corp angle from anyone yet.

The only blockage to access in Douma was caused by the UK and France with their cruise missiles a few weeks ago!
The OPCW unfortunately, due to its strict ties to the west will most likely face complete loss of credibility with their upcoming report.
That credibility won't be recovered even after the next, upcoming strike on Syria which has been in preparation for a couple of weeks by now. It's a bit like the UN panel on climate change.

originally posted by: Flanker86
The only blockage to access in Douma was caused by the UK and France with their cruise missiles a few weeks ago!
The OPCW unfortunately, due to its strict ties to the west will most likely face complete loss of credibility with their upcoming report.
That credibility won't be recovered even after the next, upcoming strike on Syria which has been in preparation for a couple of weeks by now. It's a bit like the UN panel on climate change.

It is so obvious what is going on in Syria. So obvious what the real agenda is. But people are so far up their governments back sides, that they ignore this, or simply do not see this.

The threat to world peace is the West.