IS 'Beatles' pair hit out at losing UK citizenship

wow, these guys seem to think they have every right to come back to the UK to have a fair trial after going off to fight for IS. Their pleas have fallen flat with our Government refusing to let them back in. They slam the "audacity" of the UK Government for its "illegal" decision to strip them of their British citizenship. Ha ha... AUDACITY! Seriously, these guys slam the Audacity of the UK Government?? Hold on a minute... they went off to Syria to fight for IS and tortured and maybe killed innocents but they slam the audacity of the Government?

news.sky.com...

Some from the article:

The men are accused of being two of four members of the "Beatles" group, which is believed to have captured, tortured and killed hostages, including aid workers and journalists. They were allegedly in the same group as Mohammed Emwazi - dubbed "Jihadi John" - who died in a 2015 drone strike in Raqqa. The pair have not admitted to being involved in any hostage-takings or beheadings and said the allegations against them were media "propaganda". However they did speak of their membership of Islamic State.

They still went off to fight their 'Jihad' and so shouldn't be allowed back IMO. They most likely still harbour 'Jihadi thoughts' and would be a threat.

I say let them sit out in Syria, it was their choice to go, not the UK Government.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
Lol, you couldn't make it up.
Let them rot in Syria or better still let the Kurds have them.

Give it time, I wouldn't be surprised if they do return, lack of citizenship credentials and inciting violence against the West hasn't stopped others being let in. This is all staged IMHO.

These disgusting animals should be dumped back in the middle of the fight and left to fend for themselves.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. These guys deserve everything coming to them. And then some...

originally posted by: Fermy
Give it time, I wouldn't be surprised if they do return, lack of citizenship credentials and inciting violence against the West hasn't stopped others being let in. This is all staged IMHO.

Staged? By whom and why? Please be specific.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Were these two stripped of their citizenship without any trail, or any due process at all, for what they have been accused?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Were these two stripped of their citizenship without any trail, or any due process at all, for what they have been accused?

I haven't read the details, but the UK is pretty much a Crown dictatorship so I'm guessing due process and trial have been ignored. Not much they can do about it either being out of the country.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Hang the traitorous barstools.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Were these two stripped of their citizenship without any trail, or any due process at all, for what they have been accused?

No trial but they want a fair hearing back in the UK.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Hold on a minute... they went off to Syria to fight for IS and tortured and maybe killed innocents but they slam the audacity of the Government?

Hah, they want off to regime change Assad For the Gubment. They were lied to and abandoned, of course they won't be allowed to return.

Therein lies the seeds of Revenge, the danger all western nations have been placed under by their respective gubments foreign policy of training and arming 'Insurgents'.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Let em come back give them a trial and then hang the barstools.

Wouldn't it be great if everyone standing for these guys were told they had to harbor them in their place of residence? In laymens terms, take them into their homes based on the information given and the fact that they seem adamant that they aren't a threat to national or residential security.

Waits for the Liberal minded to step in line ...

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Were these two stripped of their citizenship without any trail, or any due process at all, for what they have been accused?

I haven't read the details, but the UK is pretty much a Crown dictatorship so I'm guessing due process and trial have been ignored. Not much they can do about it either being out of the country.

From what I understand, the "Crown" has very little to no power whatsoever. They are a symbol and not much more.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Were these two stripped of their citizenship without any trail, or any due process at all, for what they have been accused?

No trial but they want a fair hearing back in the UK.

A reasonable request that should be granted to each and every individual.

a reply to: testingtesting

That would be unfair and unruly. Let people like Introvert take them in.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: testingtesting

That would be unfair and unruly. Let people like Introvert take them in.

It appears that you do not either understand the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, having the right to face your accusers or justice being served through legitimate due process.

Not entirely sure about the UK, but in the US we have a constitution that grants those things so that people such as yourself cannot burn people at the stake when your emotions get the better of you.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: testingtesting

That would be unfair and unruly. Let people like Introvert take them in.

It appears that you do not either understand the concept of being innocent until proven guilty, having the right to face your accusers or justice being served through legitimate due process.

Not entirely sure about the UK, but in the US we have a constitution that grants those things so that people such as yourself cannot burn people at the stake when your emotions get the better of you.

Unlike in some recent cases, these animals can reasonably be seen as a threat to those around them, so the action is fully merited. They should actually be treated as prisoners of war having already admitted to fighting for ISIS.
We don't want this scum roaming the streets, thanks.

a reply to: introvert

Apparently you do, because you've just told us so we must assume you're being level with us.

Is that a yes, are you willing to take one or two into your home? They're innocent until proven guilty so it shouldn't be a problem for you.

a reply to: introvert

Give them a fair trial I'm confident they assisted in the torture and beheading of 27 people they just said it was "regrettable"...
Then hang em.

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Apparently you do, because you've just told us. Yay.

Is that a yes, are you willing to take one or two into your home? They're innocent until proven guilty so it shouldn't be a problem for you.

Your question is absurd and is an appeal to emotion. I do not have to account for your logical fallacies.

Again, we have processes in place to ensure our rights, no matter what we are accused of, because history is full of examples of people such as yourself burning people at the stake.