Students w no life experience or full understanding Used to push CNN agenda? How is it ok?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SlapMonkey

The trouble with your statement is as follows...

LOADS of stuff is decided by decidedly emotional means, and nearly no one bats an eye.

The trouble with your statement is that it rambles on about topics about which I'm not discussing and that it doesn't negate my claim, nor does it have anything to do with my point. I don't care if things are decided upon by emotional means, my point is that they should not be. I KNOW that they often are, but that is not what I was claiming nor discussing.

The rest of your comment discusses nothing that I mentioned, either, it's just you ranting about things with which you disagree.

The reason that this particular situation matters is because it is children speaking out relatively unintelligently about a complex situation that they simply just don't understand fully yet, and that goes for both sides of the equation. Furthermore, it's increasingly looking like these comments that they're making are being cultivated by ideologues, and these kids are being used as political tools.

That's much more heinous, IMO, than an old man hyper-focused on the illegality of weed.

So, Teens are not mentally stable, and don't have the where with all to own guns until they are 21, but they are mentally stable and capable at 17 to tell us where we are wrong so we should listen to them?!

They are being used as tools for the progressive/socialist propaganda/agenda. It is sad to use victims to rile up anger.

And to those that can't see this, have another tide pod, that is what these super smart (but too dangerous to own a gun) kids are doing. Start by following there lead

originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
I prefer ugly truths to pretty lies.
a reply to: Jefferton

Truth is subjective.

The Truth by definition is objective. Otherwise it is called opinion.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Since when is the stance of preserving a right against more government control considered Fascism?

a reply to: Willtell

Feel free to let "babes" make your life choices for you. Wisdom comes over time, not in an instant of fear.

a reply to: TheJesuit


Students who were hunted and watched their classmates hunted to death, who filmed it and shared it, granting us the opportunity to experience their trauma first-hand have a very compelling "life experience set" that is every bit as valid as yours or mine.

a reply to: neo96


Their cause is just as just as yours. Whether you agree with it or not, the first amendment is at least as important as the second.

It's sad that ATS has come to the point where the words of neo-Nazis are more valuable than the words of our potential future leaders. After Charlottesville we were told how even neo-Nazis should be free to speak their minds regardless of how vile their words may be. We see the same thing anytime a Richard Spencer speech gets shut down at a university.

But when kids want to talk about something that directly affects them they're told to shut up and sit down. I wouldn't be surprised if we have members on here that were the same people wishing death on these kids when they went to the Florida capital or DC.

Way to go ATS. Keep it classy.

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Whether you agree with it or not, the first amendment is at least as important as the second.

Then why are they using their first A right to take away my second A right?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It's sad that ATS has come to the point where the words of neo-Nazis are more valuable than the words of our potential future leaders. After Charlottesville we were told how even neo-Nazis should be free to speak their minds regardless of how vile their words may be. We see the same thing anytime a Richard Spencer speech gets shut down at a university.

But when kids want to talk about something that directly affects them they're told to shut up and sit down. I wouldn't be surprised if we have members on here that were the same people wishing death on these kids when they went to the Florida capital or DC.

Way to go ATS. Keep it classy.

Apple and oranges. Saying that one has to right to be heard is not the same as agreeing with what one says. This discussion is not about those kids' right to be heard. It is about the fact that it is being propped up by CNN and others with a political agenda, taking advantage of the emotions of the moment.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

First of all no one is telling them to sit down and shut up The POINT of this thread is that they are being USED without fully looking at or understanding ALL the FACTS Students should be able to recognize that as well they don't and the ADULTS are wholly responsable. Look at the former president of the USA's tweet and tell me it's not propaganda, manipulated, discordant agenda driven.

Well good to see you're all running with the latest talking point, keep up the good work.

Fox News host flips out on Parkland teens mocking ‘adults’ like Marco Rubio — and the backlash is spectacular

www.rawstory.com...

K~

a reply to: aethertek

Well, since you seemed to have taken the day off, someone had to.

originally posted by: theatreboy
So, Teens are not mentally stable, and don't have the where with all to own guns until they are 21, but they are mentally stable and capable at 17 to tell us where we are wrong so we should listen to them?!

They are being used as tools for the progressive/socialist propaganda/agenda. It is sad to use victims to rile up anger.

And to those that can't see this, have another tide pod, that is what these super smart (but too dangerous to own a gun) kids are doing. Start by following there lead

Because all teenagers eat tide pods.

Using your logic, these kids aren't smart enough to tell us where they're right but they should be allowed to own firearms - unfettered.

This is why nothing will ever be done about mass shootings in America.

People want to push a narrative, nothing more.

But hey, I heard Donny wants to do something about those blasted video games and movies. I'm sure that's going to take care of mass shootings.

I wondered why we have all the nazi postings in the thread,,,Now I know why.

Arizona GOP candidate compares Parkland survivors to Hitler — then asks reporter to put him in touch with teens

right-wing former lawman running for U.S. Congress compared teenage survivors of a Florida school shooting to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

www.rawstory.com...

K~

a reply to: TheJesuit


Congress will raise the age limit and that's about it. CNN will have to take another defeat...but they're used to it by now.

originally posted by: aethertek
I wondered why we have all the nazi postings in the thread,,,Now I know why.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It's sad that ATS has come to the point where the words of neo-Nazis are more valuable than the words of our potential future leaders. After Charlottesville we were told how even neo-Nazis should be free to speak their minds regardless of how vile their words may be. We see the same thing anytime a Richard Spencer speech gets shut down at a university.

But when kids want to talk about something that directly affects them they're told to shut up and sit down. I wouldn't be surprised if we have members on here that were the same people wishing death on these kids when they went to the Florida capital or DC.

Way to go ATS. Keep it classy.

Neo-Nazi mantras are no different than the SJW mantras, only the opposite polarity.

And SJW's are allowed to flourish around here so long as they dont break the T&C.

Being a Neo-Nazi is against the T&C.

And yet the SJW's (Nu-Nazi's aka Pretty Hate Machine) complain and gripe about this place being some kind of far right pit, and all of us against their BS (which is everybody but liberals & SJW's) in here are being called Nazi's right now (on a non-SJW issue no less).

Brilliant!!!

a reply to: RomeByFire


And by using your logic, all kids kill with guns.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Imagine that. A group that wishes equality for all is allowed on this site while a group that espouses the death of millions is not allowed.

But you're right. That must mean ATS is a haven for those on the Left while the Right must hide in the shadows never letting the admins know who they really are.

The funny thing is that you pretty much just admitted that neo-Nazi ideology is endemic to Right Wing ideology. I mean why else would you use the fact that overt Nazis aren't allowed on this site as a reason to try to argue that it isn't more welcoming towards those on the Right?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Imagine that. A group that wishes equality for all

Tolerance and Equality for all (who agree with us, everybody else we'll riot and shoot your ass).