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originally posted by: Willtell
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Willtell
I gave a solution and you shat all over it because it didn't include a gun ban.
*flips Willtell the bird*
Nonsense. I did no such thing.
Id be willing to listen to anything.
You want guns in every school, Id try that.
Today I went to a HS where they have armed cops
maybe that will work
Will you be willing to abandon that if it doesn't work and try something else?
originally posted by: Willtell
I’m not God, I don’t have a sure solution, I do have an opinion but would be willing to try intelligent means to deal with this issue outside of my solution.
Would you be willing to do the same thing?
originally posted by: Harpua
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Harpua
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: CharlesT
Just like locks on doors, laws are only for honest people. Locks don't stop burglars and more laws won't stop criminals.
Let's just get rid of laws. Make murder legal. Make rape legal. Why not.
Laws don't stop them, so let's get rid of the laws that don't prevent.
Laws are present to deal with people who violate the social norms. The punishment for breaking those laws is suppose to be the deterrent. The point is laws dont matter to a person who has decided to ignore them and those laws dont matter to a person who is faced with an active shooter.
We don't need seatbelts or speed limits or dui laws or pilots licenses or material safety data sheets or etc et etc... whatever dude.
Wanna try that again and maybe make sense this time?
Your deterrent seems to be murder laws, I am suggesting gun laws. Pretty straightforward
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Willtell
You guys are predictable.
Our society is sick and needs help, needs solutions.
Lets try another approach than just arguing the same old stuff
Ok.
First? STOP BLAMING THE GUN!
Second? STOP coddling the children. Stop babying the children. Stop isolating the children. Stop giving them a ####ing trophy every time they take a crap!
Life is hard. Bullying exists. Peer groups exist. YOU WON'T ALWAYS GET YOUR WAY!
TEACH your children to COPE with societal stresses in a more appropriate way than shooting up a god-damned school!
There.
There's your god-damned solutions.
Exactly, Look at England. A knife or a bat can be just as deadly as a gun
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Willtell
Will you be willing to abandon that if it doesn't work and try something else?
Like an outright ban on any and all weapons?
And you would get around the 2nd amendment how? ignore it? shred the constitution?
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Willtell
You guys are predictable.
Our society is sick and needs help, needs solutions.
Lets try another approach than just arguing the same old stuff
Ok.
First? STOP BLAMING THE GUN!
Second? STOP coddling the children. Stop babying the children. Stop isolating the children. Stop giving them a ####ing trophy every time they take a crap!
Life is hard. Bullying exists. Peer groups exist. YOU WON'T ALWAYS GET YOUR WAY!
TEACH your children to COPE with societal stresses in a more appropriate way than shooting up a god-damned school!
There.
There's your god-damned solutions.
geez, DB.....don't worry, nothing will change, there will be plenty of school massacres, and mass shootings in the future to talk about......
originally posted by: Willtell
Yes it does. They have drills where you have to go hide in a closet.
No one gets in without id and a reason
The doors are locked
originally posted by: Willtell
There are armed cops in the High schools
originally posted by: Willtell
A regular guard on every floor in all the schools.
originally posted by: Willtell
They take care of business.
But nothing is full proof
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DBCowboy
Bravo! This is definitely part of the problem. Part.
But seriously, you you have to be in good moral standing to have a driver's license. Your ducks have to be in a row, you have to be responsible.
I wholeheartedly agree kids these days are pampered, coddled and not taught how to cope with life. But can we agree that making guns the same level of difficulty as a vehicle? Plenty of people can own cars, but it's mostly responsible people for a reason.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Willtell
An educational campaign to be more civil and caring to each other
Have you been paying attention to the state of American politics?
Complete antithesis.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DBCowboy
Bravo! This is definitely part of the problem. Part.
But seriously, you you have to be in good moral standing to have a driver's license. Your ducks have to be in a row, you have to be responsible.
I wholeheartedly agree kids these days are pampered, coddled and not taught how to cope with life. But can we agree that making guns the same level of difficulty as a vehicle? Plenty of people can own cars, but it's mostly responsible people for a reason.
I just had to go through a complete background check for a 1911 I recently purchased.
What else to you want?
A prostate exam?
In Israel and what is it Switzerland everybody has a gun, but they don’t gun each other like Americans do
Look man, we may have to change or be destroyed. Do you realize the utter enormity of what’s going on?