The MSM are moaning again saying Trump is making people not trust them, LOL!

a reply to: Revolution9

The free press is the despot’s enemy not the enemy of the people , if a story is reported backed up by facts how can that be fake news , the press has protected democracy since its inception only those who fear the truth fear a free press.

You can ignore the facts but you can't ignore the consequences.

a reply to: donnydeevil
It was easy for him to call people out in the past for this cause he had mucho “fake” money. But yet uses our TAX money to feed his gold tours. WTF we face a GOV shut down and he is where? He shall soon be exposed. I assume he will resign the office before being convicted as to get a pardon as well as Ban. They both should rot in jail but won’t.......

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Jefferton
Another right wing thread moaning about the MSM...


Neat.

I saw the same from you just this morning. Only from your slant.

strange bedfellows huh...

Huh? This was my first post today. I think you are mistaken.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

He has cried fake news and has rarely refuted it with facts to back it up with why it is fake news. They usually are just reporting on his own actions and words, so how the heck is that fake news.

MSM should not be trusted. Repealimg smith mundt has all but guaranteed they are lying on behalf of the government

originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Jefferton
Another right wing thread moaning about the MSM...


Neat.

I saw the same from you just this morning. Only from your slant.

strange bedfellows huh...

Huh? This was my first post today. I think you are mistaken.

Hmm, I just looked and you are correct.

Apologies for that, usually I'd have double checked prior to hitting send. Friday night, no excuse. :/

(insert obsequies)

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Jefferton
Another right wing thread moaning about the MSM...


Neat.

I saw the same from you just this morning. Only from your slant.

strange bedfellows huh...

Huh? This was my first post today. I think you are mistaken.

Hmm, I just looked and you are correct.

Apologies for that, usually I'd have double checked prior to hitting send. Friday night, no excuse. :/

(insert obsequies)

You are forgiven.

I prefer stories which I can verify from various sites, various angles.

This board is one the various angles, but really not the only one.

The MSM as you call it (I distanced me from this naming-convention some time ago, when I realized that it is a way to belittle anything you don't like just because some media - "fake" or seemingly not-"fake" is deemed untrustworthy by some loud members of this board) is not completely trash. Take anything with a whiff of suspicion ("who done it? where goes the moneyz to?") and you are onboard the track with the highest propability to have told the "truth", whatever that is.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: badw0lf

So where do you get your information from. Maybe I’ll look there and compare. From the beginning I have not trusted trump. He’s had three wives and a cheater.

Are those traits things that make a bad person, incapable of being president? Which saint will be appointed, who has no sin? And frankly, those are personal grievances, and not flaws in his ability. Is he a cheater? It's easy to slander someone when you have a vested interest in doing so, to bring them under fire for things that neither carry any weight against being the POTUS, nor make any difference in what they do in their role. Nor does any of the slander raised from before he was POTUS.

I take what I read and I investigate without looking for answers that fit what I want. I prefer to look past what 'they' want people to see, as everyone should but so few do. That can be from any source, it's legitimacy lies in how it stands up against other sources. But time and time again I have found that the narrative put forward by the MSM and other places that put forward their own take on things, do not.

You think there is an agenda to make the MSM look bad?? There is a concerted effort to bring down the one person in a long time, that stands against the status quo. And he's doing what he said he would. Is he the messiah or perfect? No.. no one has said he is, or has to be. A man who has been successful in his life, doing what he has said needed to be done, for over 20 years. that's what I see.

And some say they would vote for oprah over him? good lord. How to take their own argument and use it against themselves. Can you imagine?

Same goes for here. I've seen the most stolid of posters, fall for a twisted perspective that would see people take the MSM point of view as fact, using half truth, out of context statements, and outright lies that are repeated time and time again. Once I see a lie revealed, I don't just jump on it, I look even further. And the MSM have been hung, drawn, and quartered. They don't like it. And yet still, they continue to push their lies, which have been time and time again, proven as lies. How many more so called high profile journalists will fall, before the sword is all that is left for the MSM to fall on?

Is Trump a saint? No... a shrewd business man, yes. But hey, orange, small hands, bigly, yuge, speech, whatever the MSM can attack beyond the policies he's fulfilling, that's all they got. And you say you would listen to them? seriously?

I don't have a source. I use many. I look closely. I'm not even from the US. So to me, it's not something I have a vested interest in. I just see what I see, and know something is not sitting right, and I look into it. I don't look at everything, my dog isn't running here. But I am allowed my opinions, as we all are.

If Trump does something I disagree with, you bet I will be vocal. He may not be my president, but myself being Australian, our government follows close. And so in some ways, he does affect us.

How many times will I hear Trump is a racist, bigot, narcissist, misogynist, suffering dementia, etc etc. from people who have either not done their due diligence, OR have simply just taken what they want to hear and run with it? Trump was just given a clean bill of health, after months of incessant attacks on his well being. And it was NOT good enough. From dementia and early onset alzheimers to a mentally sound person. Was it enough? no... suddenly "He's obese and needs heart medication. Impeach!!" Show me a 71 year old who is fitter. The media spent an hour attacking the outcome. They just cannot find enough wrong. And when it's not enough, it's taken to a whole new level, and dragged on and on.

This to me is outrageous. And Why no one who comes along as against Trump cannot see it, leaves me wondering, seriously, just why this is.

And for each negative I read that I've looked into before, the reasons that these things are so prevalent are ... nothingburgers that have been convoluted to become truth in the minds of those who run with it. And if taken to task over their reasoning, there is never any valid argument to be had - just repeat the same, and anyone who says otherwise is just wrong, or worse, simply ridiculed. No middle ground.

I don't have a source to rely on. I rely on observation and considered thought.

So when someone says "I will trust the MSM over Trump any day" it just screams to me, someone who doesn't care for truth at all, but would prefer to follow the narrative spoon fed to them, in order to satiate their already made up mind.

Then in the next post you say you look at things and verify for yourself... which is it? MSM or considered thought?

Because they are both mutually exclusive.

originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: badw0lf

originally posted by: Jefferton
Another right wing thread moaning about the MSM...


Neat.

I saw the same from you just this morning. Only from your slant.

strange bedfellows huh...

Huh? This was my first post today. I think you are mistaken.

Hmm, I just looked and you are correct.

Apologies for that, usually I'd have double checked prior to hitting send. Friday night, no excuse. :/

(insert obsequies)

You are forgiven.

Whew, this coffin is cramped and cold!! lol

Cheers mate..

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Irishhaf

I understand there a campaign to make the news outlets irrelevant. One of the steps of dismantling democracy. I won’t buy it.

If they are severely biased and come out with nothing but lies , I say deport them to a random foreign country...

a reply to: Revolution9


news is what the boss wants to report, its not what the journalist want to say these days

It's pretty much par for the course for the MSM to act like a bunch of whining candy-asses.

Unfortunately for them, while they are whining, we are winning.

The reason that we don't trust them is because they're no longer journalists, the mainstream media has become nothing but gossip. There's no journalism anymore. That's why I don't trust them, that's for sure. I'm actually offended that they even try to call themselves mainstream media in the first place.

originally posted by: MteWamp
It's pretty much par for the course for the MSM to act like a bunch of whining candy-asses.

Unfortunately for them, while they are whining, we are winning.

How are they winning? Nobody with a brain cell even pays attention to them anymore.

a reply to: Revolution9

My trust in MSM has been ZERO since I was old enough to think for myself.

So you were 4 when you were old enough to question the MSM?

MSM can be trusted when they come to reporting verifiable facts about things that really happen.

Where they fall down is when they insert opinion pieces into the middle of the facts, to try and guide how people think.


And of course the critical logical error we keep seeing Trump fans make is 'Because MSM tells lies, ergo Trump is telling truth'. When of course the fact of the matter is the MSM tells lies and Trump tells lies, and they're all a bunch of lying liars.

a reply to: Painterz

Part of your post rings true. However, you end it with some partisan blinders. I'll be happy to engage that last paragraph.

People appeal to Trump because he appeals directly to THEM. We know the MSM is politicized with its own opinion pieces serving as echo chambers and click baits, they will ALWAYS be viewed with skepticism. Trump lies, sure, but considering the current climate of disinfo from the MSM, I'll take Trumps word over them anyday. Many others are doing the same, at the fault of the liberal MSM.

The press is tasked with informing the people. The president’s job is to lead the country. Faulty comparison, but they are no less held to the same standards by those who would seek to absolve the media for doing a poor job.