Price protests turn political in Iran as rallies spread

a reply to: Xcathdra

Even if the CIA didn't originally orchestrate the protests, they'll most likely manipulate them. Remember this:

a reply to: starwarsisreal

Using a video from over a decade ago doesnt really mean anything today.


Also -
Iran: Anti-Regime Protests Erupt Across the Country as Protesters Chant ‘Death to the Dictator’

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
a reply to: Xcathdra

The million dollar question is how many people believe that rubbish from the twatter in chief.

good gravy baby

we got a future to reel in on the hook baby

now are you gonna join in on the pull or sit on your hands friggin swuakin
like some kind of godawful ninny

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Xcathdra

Interesting timing , not saying the CIA are up to their old tricks but it smells like the CIA are up to their old tricks.
Just a thought.

One year into Obama's presidency the young Iranians prostested in the streets. Those paraplegics and those who could still be fed from straws that survived to today would be 26 - 28 years old. An abandoned generation by the American Lefties.

If Obama had supported the Iranian youth instead of the murderous thugs of the Muslim Brotherhood who failed to hold Egypt longer than a year, the region would be a lot safer. Obama's failures were epic and long reaching.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

Seems Gen. Wesley Clark was on the money , thanks for the video.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Using a video from over a decade ago doesnt really mean anything today.

Governments plan for the long term , I see no reason to doubt that what we see today is what Gen. Clark spoke of back then.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Peeple

I have no doubt they are pissed off with their dear leader, it just has very little to do with exporting terrorism.

This crap is how they maintain the narrative, they rely on people being so incredibly misinformed that they can literally pull a rabbit out of their ass, tell people it's a badger and viola.. people argue whether or not it's a rabbit or a badger all the while missing the point in the most spectacular way.

With the sanctions lifted, the people expect that their lot in life should improve. When the entire country is suffering due to some external oppressor, it's easy for the leadership to say "let me share your burden and relieve your pain, brothers and sisters.". When they get caught out keeping all the extra money for themselves and spending it on their "personal projects", it won't go down so well.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Times do, but it would be a mistake to think that things will change quickly there.

One step at a time.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Those who ignore history repeat it is an Iron Law of All Civilizations.

We keep doing the same BS as a species the world over again and over and again and over and and and and and and you know what they say, insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over expecting different results.

a reply to: stormcell

It makes little difference where a politician is from, they all line their pockets with other people's money that's a given.

The people in the west should be just as pissed off about it as these Iranians are.

originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
a reply to: Xcathdra

LMFAO. Go check Sarah Huckabee-Sander's Twitter... Trump copied her tweet word for word. That image above is a rip off of her tweet. Not a re-tweet, he (or an aide) re-typed the exact same thing she said 2-3 hours before Trump.

originally posted by: gortex
Governments plan for the long term , I see no reason to doubt that what we see today is what Gen. Clark spoke of back then.

Then you should stop living in the past with a desperate attempt to blame the US for what the Iranian government did to themselves.

A video from over a decade ago that was referring ONLY to President Bush has NO bearing on whats occurring today.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Xcathdra

Those who ignore history repeat it is an Iron Law of All Civilizations.

We keep doing the same BS as a species the world over again and over and again and over and and and and and and you know what they say, insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over expecting different results.

Sure and those who live in the past ignore the present and miss the future.

A video / mindset from more than a decade ago cant be realistically applied to this situation. The protests in 2009 were based on the election of Ahmadinejad and the rigging of the election for him to win. The video was made during the Axis of evil time period.

The only thing that has not changed in Iran is the clerical rule. Its citizens have changed and just like Saudi Arabia, if the Iran government doesnt change to reflect the current generation and societal views then they are done.

originally posted by: Kettu

originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
a reply to: Xcathdra

LMFAO. Go check Sarah Huckabee-Sander's Twitter... Trump copied her tweet word for word. That image above is a rip off of her tweet. Not a re-tweet, he (or an aide) re-typed the exact same thing she said 2-3 hours before Trump.

Yup and since she speaks for the President the message being put out will be the same as Potus.

Funny how that works.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: gortex
Governments plan for the long term , I see no reason to doubt that what we see today is what Gen. Clark spoke of back then.

Then you should stop living in the past with a desperate attempt to blame the US for what the Iranian government did to themselves.

A video from over a decade ago that was referring ONLY to President Bush has NO bearing on whats occurring today.

Wait a second, are you saying that years of military planning, preparation and training gets dropped just like that when there is a change of president?

Can't please anyone. Either it's a grassroots thing, or its a CIA work. Either way it will ultimately be the Iranian people who decide.

One would hope, the embers of 2009 still are alive in the youth of Iran. I wish them well.

If it's a real thing, it wI'll be challenging to navigate it through to completion.

Its not looking good for the protestors, the IRGC have awoken and are mobilizing.

www.bbc.com...

An interview from 2010 regarding comedy in the middle east. I think it speaks to what I was trying to say earlier about the massive disconnect between the leadership generation and the current generation. In 2010 60% of the population in the ME was under 30 years old. The availability of social networks and YouTube seem to be the driving force behind the change we have been seeing and on a grand scale makes sense.

A clash of "cultures" was bound to happen.

But Seriously Folks, The Arab World Is A Funny Place

It talks about a show that took place at the request of one of the Princes. The audience was mixed, which is to say it contained old and young people. The jokes seemed to be lost on the older generation but not on the younger generation. After the show an older audience member told the comic he though he was hilarious and that he laughed twice. High praise from the older generation and given the world they grew up in, it is.

It goes to the mindset and culture of the older generation compared to the newer generation.

I found the article interesting and how it applies to what we are seeing in the ME.

A generation of leaders who are out of place, out of touch and out of time and a generation of young people who see the world and their role in it much differently.

Time - with one hand it holds us back while with the other it moves us forward.

originally posted by: Forensick
Its not looking good for the protestors, the IRGC have awoken and are mobilizing.

www.bbc.com...

Even Ahmadinejad had his issues with IRGC. He wanted them moved to Presidential control instead of answering directly to the Ayatollah.

If they are deployed the Mullahs are nervous.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Then you should stop living in the past with a desperate attempt to blame the US for what the Iranian government did to themselves.

How is what Gen. Clark had to say an indication that I'm trying to blame the US government for anything , what he said is from his personal experience as a high ranking US official.
Sanctions driven by the US are what is causing the Iranian government problems , by design.

A video from over a decade ago that was referring ONLY to President Bush has NO bearing on whats occurring today.

If you believe that it shows how little you know of the workings of government , regime change is still a US Doctrine.
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."
What Eisenhower warned of is here yet you don't see it.

a reply to: gortex

Yes and once again it was directed at President Bush and his policies. In case you werent aware, like Nancy Pelosi, Bush is no longer in office. It was a part of the 7 middle east countries in 5 years bs that was pushed.

The video has no relevance.