14yo girl facing felony child porn charges, 10 years for selfie

a reply to: trollz
This quote comes to mind,"
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged"

Its RT and the ACLU over glorifying . In court , I bet this is at best a probation charge. She will not be tried as an adult as these hyped up attention hounds would like you to believe. The charges (if any) will be erased when this girl reaches the age of adulthood in the State.
Look how many hits RT just gained from this thread alone. And think of the publicity for a bunch of losers at the ACLU.
The ACLU rivals the UN for corruption.

a reply to: Gothmog

The charges (if any) will be erased when this girl reaches the age of adulthood in the State.

Depends on the sentence. In Minnesota, if any portion of the sentence carries over into adulthood, which being a registered sex offender would carry over, then the criminal record stays open and is accessible. Even if this results in "at best a probation" then she would still have to register as a sex offender under state law for ten years.

Any sort of guilty verdict is going to require registration. That's why it's sort of a big deal.

a reply to: Violater1

Perfect!

Though smacks too much of conspiracy to be understood by the general population, unfortunately.

I think it's sad that our society seems to be getting more repressed. That war and violence are acceptable forms of entertainment, yet a pair of breasts or an erect penis are taboo.

It seems there is a correlation between this righteous sense of repression and the increasing number of "sex offenders", whether they are either mentally messed up or just as a matter of judicial labeling. Kids are being made to feel scared and guilty of their sexuality, rather than exploring themselves and being open, secure and confident in their bodies. The latter approach produces individuals who are much less likely to rape or be raped through a sense of understanding of self.

I've had "girlfriends" since I was 3 years old, starting with holding hands, and innocently learning with experience and maturity as I grew, developing respect for myself and others. There were photos and videos, and I'm sure that if many of them were posted today people would consider them child pornography... which is absolutely absurd.

I've never been attracted to anyone less than a few years younger than myself as it is the peer engagement that is the attractive part.

We need another sexual revolution, like the 60's but with more information and understanding, so people get over this puritanical insanity.

Let naked kids be naked kids, and realise it is the messed up adults who can't control their inner selves that are projecting onto the children.

a reply to: trollz

"The message being sent to young women is that if this happens to you, it is more your fault than his" But it is.... LOL

I've always felt that the laws need to be updated regarding underage boys and girls participating in sexual relationships with each other. Since they all have smartphones now, how many girls and boys of equal age do you think are sending explicit photos to each other? At least one couple per school, right?

Should this be a crime of that magnitude? What if underage people of the same age have sex?

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

I read about some 10-year-olds selling their own pictures to pedophiles online. Once money comes into it who knows where all of this will lead. So easy to take your own picture and easy to make some $$ selling to strangers you think you will never meet in person.
A sad world nowadays.

I think, in this case, the person buying the photos from the 10-year-old is taking advantage of her and should be punished, the 10-year-old is a victim.

a reply to: UKTruth

I'll go along with that.

Where the Hell were her parents?

More and more, I'm glad I grew up before the days of instagram/twitter/facebook.

originally posted by: darkbake

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

I read about some 10-year-olds selling their own pictures to pedophiles online. Once money comes into it who knows where all of this will lead. So easy to take your own picture and easy to make some $$ selling to strangers you think you will never meet in person.
A sad world nowadays.

I think, in this case, the person buying the photos from the 10-year-old is taking advantage of her and should be punished, the 10-year-old is a victim.

Yes I agree but something needs to be done, clearly, Parents are not around much now days so what can be done. It was little boys in this case.

a reply to: trollz

of course she should be charged,
what a lot of you people are suggesting is that child porn shouldn`t be about the age of the child who is photographed but the age of the person doing the photographing, and that`s just insane.

it doesn`t matter if she took the pic herself, or if her 14 year old friend took the pic of her, or if her 6 year old brother took the pic of her or if her 90 year old great grand dad took the pic of her, it`s still CHILD PORN! she`s under 18.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Gothmog

The charges (if any) will be erased when this girl reaches the age of adulthood in the State.

Depends on the sentence. In Minnesota, if any portion of the sentence carries over into adulthood, which being a registered sex offender would carry over, then the criminal record stays open and is accessible. Even if this results in "at best a probation" then she would still have to register as a sex offender under state law for ten years.

Any sort of guilty verdict is going to require registration. That's why it's sort of a big deal.

Remember , we are speaking of a minor here committing a non-violent crime. The cases you speak of are felony cases brought against a minor. The only way to prove any kind of felony in this case , is that there was intent to sell or publish.Which , I guess could be case. But I doubt it.
The only other possibility ? The person she sent the picture to , the parent(s) are the ones filing charges. That would be an entirely different possibility.

I still stand by my statement this is a bunch of attention hounds wanting hits on the website and the other ridiculous group looking for just a tiny bit of respect back they have lost over the years..

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: notsure1
If two 14 year olds have sex is that child porn?

If they record their activity it is.

But if you pay adults to have sex.... and film it.... it is legal.
Don't film it.... it is prostitution.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: trollz

So the little girl will possibly go to jail and become a pedophile for doing exactly what society has taught her to do. Sounds about right.

She’s 14. Not a pedophile get your terminology correct.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: UKTruth
The girl should not be charged, but the parents should.

Yeah, ok. How would you like it if the police showed up at your door and said "Sorry, your kid did something stupid today. You're under arrest."

It happens all the time.
If your child violates truancy laws, you can be jailed for it.
I don't believe a parent should be charged in the circumstances laid out in the OP, but it does happen.

Keeping your kids in school is a hell of a lot different than installing and spying on your kids in the bathroom on the chance that they take nude pictures behind your back.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: UKTruth

I'll go along with that.

Where the Hell were her parents?

More and more, I'm glad I grew up before the days of instagram/twitter/facebook.

Obviously, the mother or father should stand watch over her when she's alone in her bedroom, they should always accompany her to public restrooms, even in school, and also stand watch as she showers/bathes. Obviously.

Totally their fault for being bad parents.

ETA:

I notice UK has left the building after that utterly ridiculous trollatry.

a reply to: Gothmog

No, what I speak of is the relevant code and sentencing requirements. It makes no distinction for “if the person sending them is a minor.”

Again, that’s the entire issue.

I think they need to prosecute. She wont get jail time being a minor but an example needs to be made to stop this behavior in teens. I figure community service the judge will give prevents others from this behavior. And as long as she doesnt continue at 18 this will be forgotten.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: trollz

So the little girl will possibly go to jail and become a pedophile for doing exactly what society has taught her to do. Sounds about right.

She’s 14. Not a pedophile get your terminology correct.

A 14 year old girl in Minnesota is facing felony child pornography charges, 10 years in prison, and being forced to register as a sex offender...

From the OP.

Yes. Forgive me. It would not be pedophilia, but as a sex offender. At 14. 14 is a little girl, only a pedophile would disagree.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I read about some 10-year-olds selling their own pictures to pedophiles online. Once money comes into it who knows where all of this will lead. So easy to take your own picture and easy to make some $$ selling to strangers you think you will never meet in person.

But the world is so much better, right? Mankind is the wrong thing to have faith in, because mankind doesn't make it better. Mankind makes it worse.

A sad world nowadays.

Don't worry. It does get better, but something tells me you already know it.

a reply to: trollz

she took naked pics of an underage girl and published them through electronic means, anyone who thinks that isn`t a crime is probably a pedophile.