Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Xcathdra

Signatures change over the decades. The ink age test will be the most reliable determiner of whether it is a forgery or not.

In this instance the reason its important is because the signature in the yearbook is identical to the one on the "victims" divorce papers, which Moore presided over.

The D.A. is actually his assistance initials. When she used Moore's signature stamp she would put her initials directly after it. While you are correct signatures change over time however in this case they are identical.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: Greven

I guess you must've found the getty image link most inconvenient and chose not to discuss.

Yes I do take Moore Attorney at his word about "DA" being secretary intials when signing on behalf of Moore because such a fact misrepresented would be all to easy to discredit factually - that no one has says something.

Certainly has much more weight than inking documents in two differing colors, how stupid.

What's there to discuss?

The colors are very close, even in spite of compression, lighting, and potential for differential aging. What's distorting the color is the contour of the page and the background coloration. Here, I zoomed in on it and picked roughly the darkest color I could see in most of the words:

That's being generous to you, of course - that you are simply mistaken - given that you believe implicitly what his formerly-disbarred lawyer says with no evidence that Deborah Adams ever existed at the law office.

Go do the same thing I did, the colors are extremely close, even if the Moore and date and Olde BBQ House appears 'bluer' than the rest of it - the Roy is color is even closer to the rest of it.

I have to correct you on this. It's DELBRA Adams, not Debora. And she was a Court Specialist at State of Alabama Circuit Clerk:

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a reply to: texasgirl

Thank you. I am kinda old and a little hard of hearing; I couldn't really make out the name Moore's lawyer said.

TheRedneck

Looks like possibility #4, Shove Roy Moore down recalcitrant U.S. senates throat is likely.

Won't be a #1 Allred Proves YEARBOOK real and Moore drops out.

#2 Moore proves YEARBOOK fake and wins.

#3 Governor calls new election.

Nope not 1 - 2 or 3 but 4.

Ivey will vote Moore on December 12th

a reply to: Xcathdra

While you are correct signatures change over time however in this case they are identical

I wish I could find a photo of the divorce papers signature... two signatures mere moments apart will not be identical. That's what I have been trying to explain on this subject: the lines themselves are not supposed to match, but the style (the hand movements and hand positions) will match, even over time to a large degree.

If the signature in the yearbook is exactly identical to the one on the divorce papers, that in itself is an almost certain indicator of a forgery. The probability that every hand muscle involved in a signature worked exactly the same way two different times is about like the probability of getting hit by lightning on the left side while riding in a hot air balloon over the Bahamas on a clear day while wearing a gorilla costume.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Phoenix

You know, I'm really starting to like Kay Ivey. I had my doubts when she was elected Lieutenant Governor, but so far she's done a pretty good job as Governor IMO.

Much better than Bentley. I had high hopes for him and was severely disappointed.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yeah on many subjects besides one in this thread she's showing political gumption and yup bit of a backbone.

It's actually refreshing after disappointing term of Bentley the rino.

Keeps up I may have to vote for her in 18'

Moore support in my county is off the wall btw. Published polls are a real joke.

a reply to: Phoenix

Right now she's got my vote as well. Now if she can get marijuana legalized and a school-supporting lottery, we can talk about erecting a statue in her honor.

Wouldn't that drive the liberal left nuts? Backwoods, misogynistic, xenophobic Alabama erecting an honor to a woman Governor? LOL, I'd love to see them try to explain it.

I'm seeing no support for Jones here. Maybe a little - VERY little - concern over the allegations, but not enough to dissuade votes. I think there's more anger at the allegations, driving more Moore supporters to vote, than anything. The polls are indeed a joke, and about as funny as Al Franken's jokes.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Xcathdra

Signatures change over the decades. The ink age test will be the most reliable determiner of whether it is a forgery or not.

In this instance the reason its important is because the signature in the yearbook is identical to the one on the "victims" divorce papers, which Moore presided over.

The D.A. is actually his assistance initials. When she used Moore's signature stamp she would put her initials directly after it. While you are correct signatures change over time however in this case they are identical.

Looks like a forgery and a very big mistake by someone to include the DA initials in the yearbook.
There is simply no way that 2 signatures would be almost identical 10 years apart and of course, we now know that DA is indeed the initials of Moore's assistant (she has confirmed the 1987 court document reference to DA was her initials). This same assistant was not even working for Moore in 1977 and he wasn't the District Attorney at the time either.

It's no wonder Alldred is refusing to release the yearbook for examination.

This is a huge story - because it's going to lead to who forged the document... I doubt it was all the accusers' idea...

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Xcathdra

While you are correct signatures change over time however in this case they are identical

I wish I could find a photo of the divorce papers signature...

Here you go...


This was the official stamped signature so it shows the middle 'S' in his name.

One additional question... Why would a yearbook be signed in December?
Aren't they published at the end of the school year?

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: texasgirl

Thank you. I am kinda old and a little hard of hearing; I couldn't really make out the name Moore's lawyer said.

TheRedneck

You just described me, lol. I use caption. Then I looked up Roy Moore stories. Sure enough, it's Delbra and not Deborah. Common mistake that even hearing people make!

originally posted by: UKTruth
One additional question... Why would a yearbook be signed in December?
Aren't they published at the end of the school year?

I saw a story that she attended a different school before transferring to another during her high school years. She received her yearbook from the other school late.

Now, that could just be a theory, as I can't find that article anymore!

Here's my question:

Why would she allow Judge Roy Moore to preside over her divorce proceeding if he really did attempt to rape her? I'd be hollering for another judge!!!

Just another situation that smells!

originally posted by: texasgirl
Here's my question:

Why would she allow Judge Roy Moore to preside over her divorce proceeding if he really did attempt to rape her? I'd be hollering for another judge!!!

Just another situation that smells!

I wondered that too.. you'd think she would have said something at the time...
Did the case go against her or for her?

a reply to: UKTruth

That point has been raised and thus far there has been no response to it.

Gloria Alred is actually under 2 separate investigations over her ethics in representing clients. Chances are this will make number 3 if it is confirmed to be a forgery.

Also she was in a wikileaks dump. It showed her email trying to coordinate attacks against Trump. In that email it was discussed to have people make sex claims against him. I would imagine, given her tentacles are firmly attached to the Democrat crime machine, that she used that same strategy here against Moore.

a reply to: UKTruth

UKTruth comes through again!

I'll try to find time at the shop today to do a little actual analysis...

TheRedneck

a reply to: Xcathdra

It's been painfully obvious to me for some time that Allred is working with TPTB (as in the liberal left). Seeing as dominoes are starting to fall (Weinstein, Amadeen, Franken, Menendez, now Bill Clinton), I have this little voice in the back of my head that is screaming "sting op!" I don't have any evidence yet, but if Moore is the man Alabamians (including me) believe him to be, he would gladly fall on his sword to root out corruption. Maybe this was allowed to happen in order to draw out the swamp critters?

After all, that interview with Hannity was pitiful... it shocked me. He never really defended himself. He said everything a judge would hear from a defendant to pronounce them guilty, while never admitting to anything. Is that the action of a tenured Justice defending himself? When political actions make no sense, it's because you're looking at the wrong goal.

If there is proof (which Moore regularly warns of), then it coming out in a week or so would disgrace Jones, assure Moore's victory, and completely destroy any credibility from Allred or anyone she can be connected to. Could that be Hillary Clinton? Schumer? Someone else?

Again, just thinking out loud at this point...

TheRedneck

did anyone hear the Bernie Bernstein robocall?

“Hi, this is Bernie Bernstein. I’m a reporter for the Washington Post calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5,000 and $7,000. We will not be fully investigating these claims; however, we will make a written report. I can be reached by email at [email protected], thank you.”

a disgusting, desperate ploy to try to discredit the women accusing roy moore.

a reply to: TheRedneck



ya, I remember a post from you a few years ago 'thinking out loud' that Obama would try to stay in a third term. LOLOLOL