'Hell is Here' for burning elephants in award-winning photo

a reply to: Metallicus

India....india is kind of terrible.

It just depends on your perspective, I guess. I think kangaroos are cute animals with all their hopping and carrying their cute little babies around in a pouch. If I was an Australian farmer, though, and had these things stomping and eating my crops like large, cute locusts, blasting them with a shotgun might be the only thing I could see they'd be good for.

A wild animal the size of a house? I might think they're fun in circuses, but I sure wouldn't want one stomping around in my back yard.

But go ahead and feel free to judge other cultures as more backward and primitive than your own. It's basic human behavior since forever.

originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: introvert

If you're comparing this to hunting game here in the U.S. you are wrong. People in the states don't throw Molotovs at Deer or Antelope.

You don't have to set them on fire to be cruel.

I've seen first hand the cruelty hunters can bring on animals.

a reply to: ccseagull

this is beyond cruel. This is pure evil.

It has to be some type of evil spirit that possesses a human to act so cruelly towards innocent animals... and take pleasure in it. That's some deranged stuff.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: introvert
Not much difference between what these idiots are doing and what the hunters do everyday here in the US.

It is very different to hunt for food Vs. torturing a creature.

I've never met a hunter in the US that hunts for food, because they do not have other options.

In fact, hunting for your food is very expensive.

Doesn't make much sense.

a reply to: introvert

I could introduce you to quite a few. Folks in my circle(s) hunt and keep their game year round as opposed to buy it from the store. A trophy would be nice for any of them, but they all acknowledge that they can't eat the antlers.

I really don't see how you can compare immolating animals to humane hunting methods.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: introvert

If you're comparing this to hunting game here in the U.S. you are wrong. People in the states don't throw Molotovs at Deer or Antelope.

You don't have to set them on fire to be cruel.

I've seen first hand the cruelty hunters can bring on animals.

A good hunter respects his prey and the spirit of the animal ( if they believe animals are also spirit beings) ... and they will try for the cleanest ,least painful kill. But yeah... there are a lot of a$$hat hunters out there who are just as bad if not worse as the men who did this to the elephants. 😕

a reply to: Blue Shift

But go ahead and feel free to judge other cultures as more backward and primitive than your own. It's basic human behavior since forever.

Exactly.

Here in the US, the primitive, backward thinkers believe they are justified in their cruelty because they buy licences, buy all of the necessary equipment, dress-up in special clothes and head off to the woods to play, all while they could feed their families much cheaper by walking in to a Sam's Club or Costco.

a reply to: JinMI

I could introduce you to quite a few. Folks in my circle(s) hunt and keep their game year round as opposed to buy it from the store. A trophy would be nice for any of them, but they all acknowledge that they can't eat the antlers.

Do they hunt because they are not near any grocery stores?

I really don't see how you can compare immolating animals to humane hunting methods.

Depends on how you define humane.

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: KonquestAbySS
a reply to: introvert

If you're comparing this to hunting game here in the U.S. you are wrong. People in the states don't throw Molotovs at Deer or Antelope.

You don't have to set them on fire to be cruel.

I've seen first hand the cruelty hunters can bring on animals.

A good hunter respects his prey and the spirit of the animal ( if they believe animals are also spirit beings) ... and they will try for the cleanest ,least painful kill. But yeah... there are a lot of a$$hat hunters out there who are just as bad if not worse as the men who did this to the elephants. 😕

The worst kind of hunter is the one that can afford to go to the grocery store, yet justifies his actions by saying he needs to feed his family.

Hunting is not cheap. Going to the store and grabbing some ground chuck or sirloin is.

a reply to: introvert

Do they hunt because they are not near any grocery stores?

They hunt because they want to know where their meat came from. They hunt because it gives them a little more control over how their food gets to their tables. They also hunt for conservative means. Overpopulation is a problem when it comes to deer, rabbits, squirrel and such.

If an animal kills a child i won't really care. We kill animal kids all the time and the ppls that do it are called workers , so what is the big deal?

I value an animal life and human life equally. If you child kills someone, would you kill your own child for doing it? its just instincts. Humans have em too.

a reply to: TobyFlenderson

here's one, what's the brown stuff between the elephants toes in india?
slow natives

a reply to: JinMI

They hunt because they want to know where their meat came from. They hunt because it gives them a little more control over how their food gets to their tables.

That doesn't make sense.

A hunter has absolutely no idea where a wild animal has been, what they may have eaten, etc.

Food you buy at a grocery store can be tracked all the back to the farms/ranches. You can see exactly where it came from, what it ate, how old it was when it was slaughtered, the name of the guy who slaughtered it, and on and on.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Blue Shift

But go ahead and feel free to judge other cultures as more backward and primitive than your own. It's basic human behavior since forever.

Exactly.

Here in the US, the primitive, backward thinkers believe they are justified in their cruelty because they buy licences, buy all of the necessary equipment, dress-up in special clothes and head off to the woods to play, all while they could feed their families much cheaper by walking in to a Sam's Club or Costco.

Those animals were killed as well... sometimes in more inhuman ways than your average hunter. Unless we all want to go vegan , we need to acknowledge that animals will be killed and slaughtered. How is the first big question... and which ones the next. Different cultures... 😕... have breeded their own definations of what is ok to eat and I certainly don't agree with all of them.

a reply to: introvert

Self reliance doesn't make much sense? Weird.

a reply to: Sheye

Those animals were killed as well... sometimes in more inhuman ways than your average hunter. Unless we all want to go vegan , we need to acknowledge that animals will be killed and slaughtered.

I fully acknowledge that animals will be killed.

What I do not understand is the illogical stance many hunters when they are excusing their actions.

Most hunters, the vast majority, do not do it out of necessity of food. They do it for sport.

Which makes them just a level lower than these people throwing molotovs at elephants, in an attempt to scare them off.

a reply to: introvert

That doesn't make sense.

A hunter has absolutely no idea where a wild animal has been, what they may have eaten, etc.

Then you've no idea what it's like to hunt. If were talking about deer, then we're talking about a herd animal, mostly, that keeps around the same areas. Knowing where it's going because of where it's been, trying to piece together its habits based upon different changes in the environment. If you know the area, you know what its eating.

Food you buy at a grocery store can be tracked all the back to the farms/ranches. You can see exactly where it came from, what it ate, how old it was when it was slaughtered, the name of the guy who slaughtered it, and on and on.

Yea, and that doesn't bother you? I mean I'm not judging but I try not to feed that to my family. I prefer meat that has been made naturally.

Back on topic, the way these animals are slain, if done by responsible hunters, is very humane. Much more human than setting an animal on fire.

originally posted by: bphi1908
a reply to: introvert

Self reliance doesn't make much sense? Weird.

How self-reliant are you when you have to buy a licence to hunt from the state?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Sheye

Those animals were killed as well... sometimes in more inhuman ways than your average hunter. Unless we all want to go vegan , we need to acknowledge that animals will be killed and slaughtered.

I fully acknowledge that animals will be killed.

What I do not understand is the illogical stance many hunters when they are excusing their actions.

Most hunters, the vast majority, do not do it out of necessity of food. They do it for sport.

Which makes them just a level lower than these people throwing molotovs at elephants, in an attempt to scare them off.

I have to agree... hunting just for sport is very coldhearted... but there are also animals that make sport of attacking humans so self defense against predators is acceptable.