If we take down the statues then what?

Once the statues come down then the only logical next step is to tear down all houses to which not only the confederates built prior to the civil war and also the colonial homes and farms as well. The logical progression would be to destroy Not just the confederate houses and cities like Charlottetown Va, Gettysburg, and all other cities that were once home to confederate soldiers, then after that Tear down the homes of Thomas Jefferson's, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and all the founding fathers. Then change the names to all the sates of that once made up the confederacy, and Washington State as well. There is so much that would have to be destroyed in order not to offend anyone today.

We cannot use Mario Brothers or "the Fonz" as it would be offensive to Italians, Green and four leafs clovers for they are stereotypical for Irish, Nazi's for Germany, Crescent moons for Moselms, hula hoops for Hawaiians .

Well I guess you see where it is going. Our American society has produced a whole generation of hypersensitive individuals who could not handle even the slightest offensive word or gesture. But they can use offensive words and gestures towards those to whom they don't agree.

I hope our society can heal itself before it implodes and destroys itself.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

If we take down the statues then what?

Book burning.

Really.

I don't see a difference.

a reply to: DBCowboy

yep that may be next.

The pots are calling the kettles black (no racial pun intended) however it would look as if the criminals are running the prison.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

If we take down the statues then what?

Erect statues of crimefighting superheroes.

Comic book characters have been elevated to Icon status.

Lets put statues of Batman and Wolverine in the town square. That way when our kids go, "who's that daddy", you can say "thats an imaginary person on TV".

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Once the statues come down then the only logical next step is to tear down all houses to which not only the confederates built prior to the civil war and also the colonial homes and farms as well. The logical progression would be to destroy Not just the confederate houses and cities like Charlottetown...

That is not a logical progression. It's even beyond a slippery slope.

That is an absurd illogical assertion.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ChesterJohn

If we take down the statues then what?

Book burning.

Really.

I don't see a difference.

Thats already happening. Mega Upload got taken down and its owner arrested. They didn't have to even light a match.

If we take down the statues then what?

Nothing changes
Evil folks will still exist and be further riled

Erasing history because it offends people.

This has happened so many times in history.

Guess what happens, history then repeats itself.

Aldous Huxley quote......


That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

One time, I asked my former professor (she teaches Soviet history) if the Red Army statues in Berlin should be taken down. She said no, taking them down is too easy and serves no purposes and that instead we should write down a description of the crimes the Red Army did. She also stated same thing applies to the Confederate monuments.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

There is so much that would have to be destroyed in order not to offend anyone today.

People will always be offended by something, and there is little that can be done about that.

generation of hypersensitive individuals who could not handle even the slightest offensive word or gesture

Thankfully, we have the First Amendment for speech protection.

...then pigeons in the park will start s#itting all over people sitting on the benches.

Change the names on the schools, public libraries & any other public building that has been defaced with the name of a traitor to the United States.

Jefferson Davis school to be renamed after Obama

“Jefferson Davis, although infamous in his own right, would probably not be too happy about a diverse school promoting the education of the very individuals he fought to keep enslaved being named after him,” Davis Magnet IB PTA President Janelle Jefferson said.

thehill.com...

K~

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Really, we're back to the statues?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Here's the difference, no Jew is forced to read or even walk by Mein Kampf everyday. If you walked by a statue of a person everyday that believed you were subhuman and had no right to exist other than to serve your white masters, you may feel differently.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

We would also have to ban the US flag.

It flew above far more slave ships than St Andrews cross ever did.

People want to keep judging the past by the standards of the present. Totally backwards.

a reply to: aethertek

They can do all of that but it wont mean anything. After a few years, the revisionists will erase those new names as well. Once you go down this path, theres no going back.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ChesterJohn

If we take down the statues then what?

Erect statues of crimefighting superheroes.

Comic book characters have been elevated to Icon status.

Lets put statues of Batman and Wolverine in the town square. That way when our kids go, "who's that daddy", you can say "thats an imaginary person on TV".

Oh no, you can't do that. Not cis-gender superheroes anyway. It would have to be characters that embrace the LGBT community.

a reply to: TonyS

You got that backasswards, the historical "revisionism" already happened, when statues were erected to honor the traitorous Confederate "heroes".
None of those statues ever should have been erected in the first place.

Removing them will bring some balance & truth to the real history of the Confederacy, not the white washed sanitized fairy-tail that sympathizers would still like to pass off as "history".

K~

What about the communist monuments, featuring those such as Stalin, that were taken down in Russia? Or the Nazi monuments that were taken down in Germany?

When armies are defeated on their own soil—particularly when those armies fight to promote racist or genocidal policies—they usually don’t get to keep their symbols and material culture. As some commentators have noted, Germany in 1945 is a useful comparison. “Flags were torn down while defeated cities still burned, even as citizens crawling from the rubble were just realizing that the governments they represented had ended,” wrote a reporter for McClatchy. Most physical relics of the Nazi regime were banished from public view.

Politico:
Why are there no Nazi Statues in Germany

I think one of the main sources of contention is the idea that either the Civil War was fought over slavery, or it was fought over state's rights. Some people think one way, some people think another.

Look at the following paragraph (an opinion on the matter)

In Germany, you won’t see neo-Nazis converging on a monument to Reinhard Heydrich or Adolf Hitler, because no such statues exist. The country long ago came to grips with the full weight of its history. But you’ll find Nazis and Klansmen in Virginia, circling a statue of Robert E. Lee, a traitor who raised arms against his own country in the defense of white supremacy. How do we explain to the descendants of his victims—fallen Union soldiers and widows, and so many million slaves—that Robert E. Lee doesn’t deserve the same eternal infamy as Eichmann or Heydrich?

It could be argued that many Americans don't think the Civil War was fought over slavery, and even if they think it was, they don't see slavery to be as big of a crime as genocide, for example. Slavery also happens to be something that only affects blacks, leaving white people with less empathy for its victims. While Hitler is hated by many, Robert E. Lee is thought of as a war hero. I think a lot of that has to do with people not taking slavery seriously.

Just pointing out another perspective. I am neutral as far as taking down statues goes.

a reply to: darkbake

Then what about the Red Army Monument in Berlin? It represents the Rape of Berlin yet it still stands.

As stated earlier, we should just put a description of the crimes they committed rather than taking them down.