If we take down the statues then what?

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Really, we're back to the statues?

As we should be. If you let the kids high on red cordial run amok, you eventually have to smack them.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: DBCowboy

Here's the difference, no Jew is forced to read or even walk by Mein Kampf everyday. If you walked by a statue of a person everyday that believed you were subhuman and had no right to exist other than to serve your white masters, you may feel differently.

Right. Ignore history. Makes the feels go away.

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ChesterJohn

If we take down the statues then what?

Erect statues of crimefighting superheroes.

Comic book characters have been elevated to Icon status.

Lets put statues of Batman and Wolverine in the town square. That way when our kids go, "who's that daddy", you can say "thats an imaginary person on TV".

Oh no, you can't do that. Not cis-gender superheroes anyway. It would have to be characters that embrace the LGBT community.

They appropriated the word Gay..

Now Cis and Trans.

They are chemical terms. what a cauldron.

a reply to: badw0lf

Where else do we have statues of the losers. Not idolizing slavers does not eliminate all knowledge of history.

Do we have statues of King George? Kaiser Wilhelm II? Hitler? Yeah losers, let's all memorialize your standing on the wrong side of history.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: badw0lf

Where else do we have statues of the losers. Not idolizing slavers does not eliminate all knowledge of history.

Do we have statues of King George? Kaiser Wilhelm II? Hitler? Yeah losers, let's all memorialize your standing on the wrong side of history.

Losers?

It's YOUR damn history. We don't rip the pages out of history books, and yes, Hitler had once a place where he was idolised. You deny that? Makes you all weepy? His atrocities do not go away when you rip books apart.

To consider him good today? No. But you don't fix it by tearing down history. That is weak. We'd have a society bereft of any knowledge if we tore down every thing historical. We are where we are because of it.

a reply to: badw0lf

I don't think you've read anything I've written in this thread. Pulling down a statue does not equate to ripping pages out of a history book. Can you please tell me where the Hitler statue in the US is? The leaders of the Southern rebellion were traders and losers. THEY DO NOT DESERVE OUR ADULATION. This does not prevent people from learning about them. If you can't see that difference then there is absolutely no reason to continue this conversation.

What comes next? Placing bombs at historic reenactment sites.

Other vendors who attended Saturday’s event also said that someone placed what might have been a pipe bomb at the tent of one of the vendors. Buchheister and another vendor, Bill Wickham, both said the tent belonged to the owner of Haycock Wood Company, Arlene Scott.

“They make little camp stools and tables and little wooden toys for children to play with,” Wickham said. “What a nice place to put a bomb, where there will be a lot of kids come in.”

Source Article

It has moved to the Revolutionary War period now....
Virginian-Pilot: IED Caused Explosion In Colonial Williamsburg

The IED is being described as located “in a highly-trafficked area during a peak time” by law enforcement officials.

This news comes just days after pipe bombs were found at the re-enactment of the Battle of Cedar Creek in Frederick County, Virginia.

Williamsburg is the home of several noted tourist attractions, including the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation and Busch Gardens. The College of William and Mary, Camp Peary, and the Yorktown Naval Weapons Station are also nearby.

But, weren't we repeatedly told it was only just statues, why should you care? Because this is what we predicted would be happening next. That is why.

SMH



UPDATE: A person has been arrested and charged for the IED bomb at Colonial Williamsburg
Gloucester man charged with terrorism after IED explosion near CW

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: badw0lf

I don't think you've read anything I've written in this thread. Pulling down a statue does not equate to ripping pages out of a history book. Can you please tell me where the Hitler statue in the US is? The leaders of the Southern rebellion were traders and losers. THEY DO NOT DESERVE OUR ADULATION. This does not prevent people from learning about them. If you can't see that difference then there is absolutely no reason to continue this conversation.

Not even American.

Take it from me. Dare you.

a reply to: Liquesence

yet not beyond the scope of the radical left

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Thankfully, we have the First Amendment for speech protection.

Do you really think you are allowed that when these groups are shutting down free speech and with the media Biased supporting them?

a reply to: ChesterJohn


I say put them back in a bigly way.

We can have second place finisher Robert E. Lee riding his horse, which would be rearing up atop the 10 commandments, while he holds a baby Jesus in one hand and simultaneously shooting a statue of Columbus in the face with the other.

a reply to: TobyFlenderson

are you that naive to the real reason the civil war was fought?

History was rewritten.

Do you believe that California should have the right to succeed?

If you do then you have discovered the real reason for the civil war. State Sovereignty.

But if you agree California has the right then why didn't feel that Texas had the right?

The MSM in the day of the civil war were then told by TPTB to change the reason from state sovereignty to slavery in 1862 because the North was losing support of the sheepeople. Once the reason was changed in the minds of the sheepeople then the north was able to garner more soldiers and money to fight.

a reply to: Cancerwarrior

The US flag is already under attack.

You are wrong, the Dutch flag flew over 90% of the ships that exported slaves from Africa, sold to them from Islamist and other African tribes. Probably because the history books you were taught from were already rewritten. Get a hold of a printed (not digital) history book from the 1950's and learn for yourself the factoids I have given you and others about the civil war and slavery. Did you know that Slavery was already being ended in many nations and was already being debated in congress before the Civil war even took place. It was the right of State sovereignty that was brought up that it should be in the states hands on all issues pertaining to state government and not a central Federal Govt.

Yes the whole system is remade backwards as to destroy this more perfect union.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

you must also place the truth in those descriptions as well. The confederacy started its fight to defend each states right to rule themselves without a centralized federal govt for the first 2 years that is what they fought for. Once the MSM of the day by TPTB changed it to slavery in 1962 they were actually winning the war.

Which we see now has gotten so big and corrupt there is no way to stop it unless it changes to socialism. Once down that path it is destroyed within a matter of years.

The Russian connection is not with Trump but was in favor of Bernie Sanders winning. That is why they were upset when Hillary got he Democratic Nomination instead of the real winner Bernie, that they hacked in a released the DNC documents and Hilary Emails. The one thing Russia didn't expect was the common people voted for Trump. Had Bernie been the DNC choice he would be president and we would be well on our way to socialism faster than if Clinton were president.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Liquesence

yet not beyond the scope of the radical left

As long as they get rid of the statute of that whore lady liberty in the process, I'm good.

a reply to: aethertek

Isn't it in a way, all revisionism? I was thinking and comparing this situation to that of the Russian Revolution and the USSR. After the Revolution, they tore down all the statues of the hated Czar, etc. Then they erected statues of Lennin and Marx and Stalin and such. Then the USSR collapsed and now Putin is putting back up plaques and small statues of the Royal family back in certain sites previously owned by the Royals. At the same time they re-wrote the history books and de-glorified Stalin and took down some of the statues to him.

Who knows what the next cycle portends.

As far as the Confederate statues are concerned, I could really care less. But I seriously doubt it will result in any balance and truth to the real history. They will probably go way too far in splattering the urban landscapes with statues of their own heros which many will find oppresive and repulsive and the fighting, defacing and hatred will only be exacerbated.

a reply to: TonyS

Not even Ronald Reagan, Milton Friedman, Ann Rand, Albert Schweitzer, and Marget Thatcher above reproach all their statues are being attacked.

What next the Tortoise and the Hair statues in Boston?