I used to believe that white privilege exist

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Let me tell you a story. In 1992, when the LA Riots (Or Uprising according to some people here) many of the Korean storeowners and other innocent minorities were abandoned by the cops because the cops retreated and protected only the rich people.

The attacking of Koreans by the black rioters just said a lot about the "uprising" lol But nothing says uprising like burning your own to the ground! Remember that one black grocery store owner that stood up to the protester......err looters?

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
Note: This is my personal point of view. Others may have a different opinion.

For off I confess I used to believe white privilege exist and had some anti-white sentiments (My ethnicity is Filipino American in case your wondering).

For those of you that don't know, I live in LA and here in LA, the problem is that there seems to be a racialization of poverty. Here, whites tend to be perceived as rich and powerful while non whites are poor.

Part of the reason for this was due to the fact that here in LA, white people unlike those of in the South and Mid West, tend to be upper middle class to upper class people. Most of the working class to lower class folks are Blacks, Latinos and some Asians. Sure you may see some working class whites here and there but they are few in numbers.

When we think white people, we think of people like Harvey Weinstein and many other upper class white people. We would never think of poor whites.

Growing up and even now I only met maybe about 5 or 9 white folks whom are working class. Almost every white people I know tend to be upper middle class to upper class whites.

Many of these white people are very elitist and even racist. In fact, a Guatemalan American friend whom along with his dad was stared at in weird way by Beverly Hills residents when they were just passing by Beverly Hills. My friend told me he and his dad wasn't doing anything and that
they were only minding their own business. In Beverly Hills and other places, many of these whites tend to see them as poor and looked down on them.

My little sister think white people as having a high and mighty attitude and sadly it does apply to a lot of the whites in LA since they tend to be rich.

Also, it is very hard to find a high paying job in LA. Many of the high paying jobs are occupied by people whom tend to hire their own kind and leave out people outside their circle. I'm talking about jobs like Hollyweird and the tech industry.

In addition, due the perception that whites are elitists, many minorities accused white people of taking over their neighborhoods via gentification. Gentrification means renovating a neighborhood to conform to middle to upper class taste. While it sounds good in paper, the problem arises when they started displacing working class minority communities by raising the price of housing so high that they couldn't afford it.

As result, you get incidents such as these:

Next, history also plays a role. LA has a very long history of racial discrimination. It's hard to put all in one thread but thing is LA still felt it's legacy even after the civil rights era ended. For example, the creation of ghettoes which has it's origins when whites forced minorities to stay in a certain place.

Due to the Elitist attitudes of a lot of white people in LA, some minorities even wrongly accuse white people of supporting Globalists such Henry Kissinger. Like they would see white people as collaborators of the Global Elite.

Also, many SJWs preached anti-whiteness which adds more fuel to fire.

All of this results to many minorities perceiving whites as having privilege. This in turns leads to jealously and outright hatred. Hence why a lot of minorities here are anti white. Even if they don't hate white people, they see them with suspicion.

I myself was one of them. There was this time when I only accepted a few whites into my life.

As for you wondering what changed me, well shortly after Trump got elected, I decided to research why do people voted for Trump. I realized that so called white privilege do not extend to the South and Mid West and that we have more things in common with them. What divided us was negative stereotypes and politics.

Well that's the thing. It seems like a lot of average people don't really know the research on poverty, data, etc. There are huge numbers of white people who are low income/impoverished.

This is why I can't buy fully into the white privilege idea. It's a joke when people claim that somehow a poor white kid from an Appalachian trailer park with few prospects magically has more privilege than Corey Booker, and African American senator and whose parents were IBM executives.

I do, however, know that economic privilege is real. The evidence is irrefutable that people from higher economic classes and background enjoy better nutrition, better absorption of social capital such as vocabulary, better education opportunities, financial accumulation, etc. But this is true for all races.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

No worries, it never really bothered me cause I have walked my own path since I was very young and most people think I am weird.

The only time it bothered me was seeing that stereotype of the dumb southern guy from family I was visiting up north, but I got over it.

Either way did not mean to side track the thread just wanted to throw my nickles worth of anecdotal evidence out there.

ETA: one last thought, I have a house in a state that many people point at as part of the hick racist areas mocked by many not in the south.

Saw more interracial marriages there and more gay couples there than I have seen up north or on the east coast, stereotypes of all types are usually wildly wrong.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Pretty much, and it can take generations of dedicated work, sacrifice and effort for a family to build up that financial/economic capital. If even one generation in the chain lets the others down, it can all be blown and has to start over again. That's why a culture built for success is so important.

a reply to: Logarock

Hmmm that reminds me, one day I will make a thread about the 1992 LA Riots. I think there's a lot of things that many people don't know. For example, part of the reason why the Koreans' store got looted was due to racial tensions between Koreans and Blacks.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

OH NO, I am NOT with them...I think the brain damage might throw some off anyway.

a reply to: ketsuko

You do have a point on this. One of the problems among the Black community is that you get shamed by your own family members if you are successful by being called an "Uncle Tom."

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: ketsuko

You do have a point on this. One of the problems among the Black community is that you get shamed by your own family members if you are successful by being called an "Uncle Tom."

Not just family members. Peers will do it too.

I taught in an inner city school for a few years, and I saw the way the "good" kids were treated by the rest. Kids doing what most people think of just keeping their nose clean and getting their education are made fun of, and I'm not even talking about the stereotypical nerd, just kids who were average learners doing what was right.

a reply to: Logarock

And NOTHING makes OTHER minorities MORE honest than SEMI AUTO rifles on the roof.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

I too am Asian American but being from the Midwest and having lived all over the world I have a much different perspective. Chinatown borders on the southside of Chicago. They have gentrified the area. It is absolutely amazing the change in just ten years and it is all being done by Asians. I do think people think the white privilege mentality evolved due to a perception of wealth. I personally don't believe in white privilege. I only believe in wealth privilege. We would love to put a face of the people we want to blame our problems on, but in reality it's all about money. It has always been about money and education. Go to any country that has majority of one race, what will you find, the same thing, the exact same feelings, except it is about wealth. You say you personally don't think of poor whites, this also tells me you haven't had the opportunity to travel the country much. You really should, it might change your viewpoint. Try the state of West Virginia. Appalachia is breathtakingly beautiful, but you'll see more poor white people than you can imagine, Visit Atlanta, you'll see a lot of rich black folks.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Oh I am aware they exist alright hence why I changed my view.

One thing I noticed is that many Leftists seemed to ignore them which led to them voting for Trump.

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I do agree with the part that police tend to act aggressively toward people of color. This has it's origins in the 1970s when Nixon and his successors both Republican and Democrat launched the War on Drugs as a way to attack minority communities.

Don't forget the role of the CIA in drug trafficking in minority communities during the 1980s.

Yea right. Thats why the Ohio National guard, special equipped helicopters to detect pop growing operations ect were all over the hills of southern Ohio, drooping in without warrant on all those special privileged white hill people, during the War back in the day. Meanwhile Mexican Brown was just pouring over the border.

a reply to: Logarock

Um just letting know you here in LA, Mexicans have a long history dating back to when California was part of Mexico. They have been racially discriminated ever since the US took control of California.

So what applies in Ohio does not apply in LA.

I get whites are also victims elsewhere in the US but that's not the case most of the time in LA.

I suggest you should come to LA and talk to the local minorities. I think they will give you their perspective.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: ketsuko

I am relatively well off, but I couldn't even afford a 2 bedroom ranch-style home in L.A. Normal people are priced out of the market.

Not really, you're just expected to have more modern skills in LA.

There's definitely a difference in housing prices that isn't fully made up in cost of living adjustments. I was looking at a house in a town near me the other day. $150,000. The same house in LA would have run approximately $5,000,000. The wage difference between there and LA is a difference of about $150k/year vs $200k/year. Basically, what's affordable in one area after paying it off for a year or two, becomes a full 30 year or even 40 year lease in CA.

Still, that's typical city living. The higher population density goes, the less space there is for each person. LA has plenty of "affordable" housing, but you won't be getting a 5000sqft home. A friend of mine lives in LA actually. He pays something like $1900/month for an apartment that's 4 blocks from the beach. It's not very spacious, but it's not outrageously expensive either relative to a professional wage in LA.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Southern Guardian

Considering my husband was in that situation in Kansas as a to all appearances white male who was in an interview against a minority female, all other things were equal and he did not get the job ... I'm not sure where you are going with this. They hired her because she could check the boxes and all other things were equal.

But please, do tell me where they are falling all over themselves to hire white males when the social and political pressures are to appear diverse.

In other words, things weren't equal, and your husband offered the company less. If diversity is a commodity that companies value, and you don't meet those diversity checkmarks, then it means you need to compensate. Either cost less, or do better so that you can make up the value difference.

a reply to: starwarsisreal

And yet, LA is one of the easiest places in the country to get a job that starts you over $100k, fresh out of college, with no experience.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: starwarsisreal

" White Privilege "

REAL WORLD Definition - An Imaginary Term Used by Non White RACISTS to Somehow Impose a " Guilt Trip " on those of the Caucasian Persuasion that is Directed Solely at their Obvious Intellectual , Political , and Cultural Superiority in Numerous Countries Around the World and Throughout Recorded Human History

What Intellectual , Political , or Cultural Superiority?
Your post is just as racist as believing in White Privilege.

You Obviously are Not a Student of History . If you Were , you would have Realized that my Post is Stating an Uncomfortable Fact to some here . Deny Ignorance Son...............

a reply to: starwarsisreal

Hey,



Have a good one.
Hold it down.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Pretty much, and it can take generations of dedicated work, sacrifice and effort for a family to build up that financial/economic capital. If even one generation in the chain lets the others down, it can all be blown and has to start over again. That's why a culture built for success is so important.

That's why the concept of generational wealth is BS. It ties your success to if your parents or grandparents managed money properly.

a reply to: Aazadan

Only if you know people. If you don't, your outta luck