Vegas Shooting: Where's The Video Footage?

originally posted by: TheOnlyBilko

originally posted by: paytaplay
UMM, back to the topic. Where is the footage from vegas. all the hotles have endless cameras and the streets too. Lets see some footage

The casino FLOORS have cameras. The actual hotel? Not so much. There are NO CAMERAS on the major Las Vegas Hotels/casinos, Hotel floors.

I find that hard to believe... I've stayed in countless hotels and there are cameras EVERYWHERE. In the elevators. On each floor. Lobby. Parking Garage.

I said this earlier too, where is the security camera footage of Paddock coming and going?

Personally, I think some type of deal was going down in that room or he was setting up for additional accomplices to join him. No one guy would need all that firepower to go on a rampage. It doesn't make any sense to have all those guns, explosives in the car, etc. I think he was planning to meet someone/people in the room and the plan was foiled by the security guard who got shot. Paddock then decides, screw it, breaks out the windows and starts shooting.

There is more going on with the case than we are being told.

How quick do we normally get "bomber captured on airport cctv boarding doomed flight"?

a reply to: HorizonFall

I don't buy the busted ISIS arms deal angle. That would imply that all the shooting was done without forethought. Nonsense. From all the video and audio evidence gathered, the shooters were in multiple locations using weapons covertly. There are no obvious muzzle flashes and the belt-fed machine gun had no tracers. All weapons were used in a calculated way not to reveal any obvious firing positions.

This was a planned attack and not a random event initiated by a weapons deal gone bad.

I don't care what the video presenter says about getting his information that Anonymous hacked. Whoever perpetrated this shooting could be just as easily portraying themselves as Anonymous or releasing disinformation to Anonymous to protect themselves.

a reply to: 1questioner

From all the video and audio evidence gathered, the shooters were inmultiple locations using weapons covertly. There are no obvious muzzle flashes and the belt-fed machine gun had no tracers. All weapons were used in a calculated way not to reveal any obvious firing positions.

Yet again all this stated as fact, when we dont know that any of this is fact...........

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

If you're waiting to for government officials to "confirm," you'll be waiting for the rest of your life. Do your homework.

And if it's impossible for you to believe that our "government" could do such a heinous act, I suggest you also do your homework regarding the official "confirmed" story of the JFK assassination, the Oklahoma City bombing, and of course 9/11.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
I can't see hauling dozens of guns up 32 floors in a Vegas hotel where the security is ridiculously tight.
Why there and not some warehouse or even a car wash somewhere?
Not to say that Paddock might not have been dealing arms, his ambiguous history and endless cash stream would fit with someone dealing something, perhaps it wasn't guns but human smuggling - catering to a pedophile clientele.

Hotels don't search luggage, not even large trunks.

I've been with people who had taken trunks full of presentation/seminar equipment into hotel rooms because we didn't want to leave them in a van overnight and possibly be stolen (and hence loose the equipment needed for the presentation). The trunks looked like the kind band roadies use for concert equipment.

a reply to: JHumm

I saw an article today that said that have 200 separate pics from all the securtiy cameras in the hotel (I assume being the casino the lobby and elevators mostly) they said he was alone in every one of them

a reply to: 1questioner

If you're waiting to for government officials to "confirm," you'll be waiting for the rest of your life. Do your homework.

I have done my homework, which is why I dont agree with you, and once again trying to state these THEORIES as facts....

nd if it's impossible for you to believe that our "government" could do such a heinous act, I suggest you also do your homework regarding the official "confirmed" story of the JFK assassination, the Oklahoma City bombing, and of course 9/11. edit on 10-10-2017 by 1questioner because: because

The reason I take acception to your assertions you keep spouting as fact has nothing to do with the gov.....

No indeed what it has to do with, is the fact that I had no less than 15 friends at that concert that night, one of which was shot twice......and not a SINGLE ONE of them, agrees with the multiple shooter scenario, and all report the same thing as far as what they heard and what happened......not only that, they are quite put out by the brash conjecture and wild conspiracy theories coming out......

So with all due respect, and honestly not knowing who YOU know......for you to tell me to do my homework when you have no idea WHAT homework I have done, and when my homework has been talking to every single one of these people over the course of the last week, is probably more accurate than yours is , considering they were there......

4 of them were former military like myself, and are pretty damn good at picking out what they are being shot at by, and are no stranger to combat zones....

So if you want to sit there and arm chair and then try to throw out at me to "do my homework". Perhaps you should remember this is ATS, and our membership is VERY large, and maybe just MAYBE some people have more insight into some events , and isnt just some guy with a ketchup stained tank top in his basement......

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

"No indeed what it has to do with, is the fact that I had no less than 15 friends at that concert that night, one of which was shot twice......and not a SINGLE ONE of them, agrees with the multiple shooter scenario, and all report the same thing as far as what they heard and what happened......not only that, they are quite put out by the brash conjecture and wild conspiracy theories coming out...... "

Now you have made an unproven assertion. Prove that you "had no less than 15 friends at that concert...and not a single one agrees with the multiple shooter scenario..."

If you have such proof, you'll be famous. Not one mainstream news media outlet has such proof.

originally posted by: 1questioner
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Now you have made an unproven assertion. Prove that you "had no less than 15 friends at that concert...and not a single one agrees with the multiple shooter scenario..."

If you have such proof, you'll be famous. Not one mainstream news media outlet has such proof.

I dont have to PROVE anything, and in no way would it make me famous, there were PLENTY of people who had groups of friends that were at that event.......I probably would have been there with them, had I not had prior engagements to go see family.....Boise is a cheap flight to Vegas and most of us go multiple times a year for a weekend....

Our group of friends have known each other for years, I refuse to name any names because I respect the privacy of the people that were involved.......im sure if you were so inclined you could find out at least a few of the people that were there, its not that hard....But no, im not revealing any names as it adds NOTHING to the discussion.....

The facts are the facts, they all reported the same thing, my military buds all agreed on the former that I stated above.....

Considerably more proof in my mind than your theory youre touting as facts....besides the fact, I would have no reason to lie about it in the first place, it gains me nothing......

For the sake of not sittign here and going back and forth on something that I could be "lying" (which has nothing to do with the reports of friends and is more a deflection)

Here is my buddies post directly after crap went down, and then after they all got home, except the one who was shot ...


Now find something else to try and deflect with

Normally British news channels stay on a story like this for days and constantly repeat the news every 15 minutes to force it through but with this shooting it was quickly dropped like it never happened .

originally posted by: HorizonFall
Screw it. I'm going to throw my theory out there:

Paddock was duped into making an arms deal in a hotel to ISIS members. He was murdered, the ISIS members conducted the attack and Paddock took the blame. The fact that ISIS took credit for it is a major indicator to me.

Though again, this is just my theory.

That's the only theory I've really had this entire time, and no one seems to take it seriously.

Thanks for voicing it and reminding me that there is someone out there that does take it seriously.
It's the only viable possibility I have thought of so far, because it explains almost all aspects of it.

I think there was probably 2 "ISIS" members, at least that's how I view it in my mind when I think of how it all went down.

a reply to: 1questioner

I'm saying it was botched on Paddock's part. Not the buyers. They knew what they were doing. Paddock thought it would be a cut and dry deal. Instead he was executed and used as the scapegoat. The perpetrators get away, ISIS takes responsibility as par the course. More restrictive firearm legislation. Win-win for the deep state...

originally posted by: 1questioner
a reply to: HorizonFall
There are no obvious muzzle flashes

I try to be as obvious as I can, well sorta.
But I have nothing to do with any of this really, just been reading along mostly.

originally posted by: HorizonFall
Screw it. I'm going to throw my theory out there:

Paddock was duped into making an arms deal in a hotel to ISIS members. He was murdered, the ISIS members conducted the attack and Paddock took the blame. The fact that ISIS took credit for it is a major indicator to me.

Though again, this is just my theory.

That makes 2 of us...

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
Normally British news channels stay on a story like this for days and constantly repeat the news every 15 minutes to force it through but with this shooting it was quickly dropped like it never happened .

Thats because London is behind this .

Jesuits vs Zionists or Globalist vs Protectionists or Pentagon vs Rothschild .

Ain't it obvious ?

If ISIS is responsible they must have found out Paddock's real identity and obviously planned the attack beforehand. The multiple shooters from different locations firing off in spaced out time increments is so each shooter could get away while the other shooters covered each other. That is why the shooting would stop and the next set of shots were either quieter or louder (being from a different location).

a reply to: game over man

I think a more likely explanation is that those behind ISIS take credit for any major attack they can to perpetuate fear and justify further military intervention abroad.

a reply to: 1questioner

Interesting I proved my statements with proof that I know the people who were ACTUALLY there, then you Disappeared.........

Now whose the conspiracy theorist?

The fact I back my statements up with actual facts and people, and you ghost out is why we should never take this other crap seriously

The sad part is NO ONE actually wants to address the fact I posted something that was going on DURING and then AFTER the fact.......cool makes me wonder if ATS has become nothing but a forum for ONLY conspiracy and diatribe..


The Sh!t part is, ATS USE to be the place where if something like this would have happened they would have come to me or others that either had friends that experienced it OR were actually there to try and get some REAL facts and first hand accounts......(see the Japan quake an Tsunami reporting for proof of that)

No the sad part is this site is not interested in ACTUAL accounts or facts any more.......they are having too much fun with the division of politics and diatribe and its garnering them too many views, opposed from actual "Deny Ignorance" and investigation, at one point in time our investigative abilities as a site were almost news worthy!!!!!

Just about done with ATS they are no longer upholding their moniker in quality of content or search for truth...

Congrats ATS you have fallen in as just another MSM sublet.....

Some are talking about ISIS like they are composed of some sort of incredibly clever super soldiers. They are a rag band 'group' of petty criminals for the most part.

Really, you guys need to let the ISIS conspiracy go. Why do you have such a hard time believing it was a psychopath with guns and daddy issues!?