About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Xcathdra
The LVMPD is a consolidated police force that includes the Sheriff's office (Las Vegas city police and Clark County Sheriff's officer combined in 1973.

Ahhhh... I think that explains why sometimes references didn't sound right to me. I didn't understand what I was missing then, but that may be it.

A bit off topic but some clarification.

It gets confusing trying to understand context from media. In addition the metro departments themselves can get confusing. Some metro departments, like Las Vegas metro, is run by the Sheriff. Some metro department, Like St. Lous metro, is responsible for all law enforcement related functions with the exception of the courts and jail, which are maintained and run by the St. Louis city sheriff (even though there are no unincorporated areas within the city of St. Louis). St. Louis metro is run by a police chief.

In Clark county there are still some cities with their own police departments.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: dreamingawake

And about the burger order... do we know what time he ordered it? Paddock was supposed to be an insomniac, so maybe he ordered the burger to eat right away and the bagel to have later.

The time isn't on it: see here

The above may check out as real-didn't look fake to me when looking closer. Member says CNN shared he did check in on the 27th(I didn't find the info yet) - www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: theantediluvian

I'm interested to know what the reason for the prescription for Valium was.

I initially assumed anxiety, but knowing now that he had high blood pressure and was an insomniac, I wonder if it may have been prescribed for those, or something related.

I'd bet the people that if anyone, the people that knew him best beyond his girlfriend will be high limit regulars and his executive hosts at the various casinos he frequented.

I'm betting with you.

And as for the rest of what you shared -- WOW! I had no idea. But good to know. Very good to know.

a reply to: Boadicea

It's quite possible that companies which such similar names are related in some way. However, it's also quite possible that they are not. So it's smoke, but not fire at this point. But thanks for the link. It is certainly interesting and worth some investigation.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: dreamingawake

I don't remember if it was the LVPD or the Sheriff now, but they promised more information could be and presumably would be released in 48 hours... let's hope we get many more answers then.

Since they said this at the 5pm press briefing on Tuesday, there's now less than 24 hours left on the 48-hour countdown clock.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Valium is in the Benzodiazepine family of drugs (opiates / psychoactive drug / tranquilizer).

Benzodiazepines enhance the effect of the neurotransmitter gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) at the GABAA receptor, resulting in sedative, hypnotic (sleep-inducing), anxiolytic (anti-anxiety), anticonvulsant, and muscle relaxant properties. High doses of many shorter-acting benzodiazepines may also cause anterograde amnesia and dissociation.[4] These properties make benzodiazepines useful in treating anxiety, insomnia, agitation, seizures, muscle spasms, alcohol withdrawal and as a premedication for medical or dental procedures.[5] Benzodiazepines are categorized as either short-, intermediate-, or long-acting. Short- and intermediate-acting benzodiazepines are preferred for the treatment of insomnia; longer-acting benzodiazepines are recommended for the treatment of anxiety.[6]

Benzodiazepines are generally viewed as safe and effective for short-term use, although cognitive impairment and paradoxical effects such as aggression or behavioral disinhibition occasionally occur. A minority of people can have paradoxical reactions such as worsened agitation or panic.[7] Benzodiazepines are also associated with increased risk of suicide.[8] Long-term use is controversial because of concerns about adverse psychological and physical effects, decreasing effectiveness, and physical dependence and withdrawal.[9][10] As a result of adverse effects associated with the long-term use of benzodiazepines, withdrawal from benzodiazepines often leads to improved physical and mental health.[11][12] The elderly are at an increased risk of suffering from both short- and long-term adverse effects,[11][13] and as a result, all benzodiazepines are listed in the Beers List of inappropriate medications for older adults.[14]

From wiki

a reply to: Xcathdra

That's actually very helpful -- thank you. Here in AZ, most cities maintain their own police department, with some contracting with the Sheriff to provide policing, as well as the unincorporated area.

So knowing that will be helpful for more than just this case.

a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

a reply to: carewemust

He really is a strange bird. The investigators have their work cut out for them. I'm very anxious to hear further from them... hopefully soon.

What I find strangest is the house with no furniture and the fridge-sized safe full of guns. Who lives in a house like that? I guess the answer is: someone who's going to snap and start murdering strangers.

a reply to: carewemust

Lie detectors dont actually tell if a person is lying or not. It measure galvanic skin response and the operator can get an idea if the person is being deceitful when answering questions. It is not an exact science and its one of the reasons lie detectors cant be used in court.

Think of it like a portable breath test police use. In general the results of those tests are preliminary and the test result cant be used in court. They can only say if it was administered and if it detected the presence of alcohol.

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: Boadicea

It's quite possible that companies which such similar names are related in some way. However, it's also quite possible that they are not. So it's smoke, but not fire at this point. But thanks for the link. It is certainly interesting and worth some investigation.

Yes -- That's about where we're at! All we can really do is pay attention at this point. No conclusions to be reached yet. So much was coming out today, and I'm sure tomorrow will be the same... I just wanted to try to keep all the information somewhat organized!

originally posted by: Dudemo5
What I find strangest is the house with no furniture and the fridge-sized safe full of guns. Who lives in a house like that? I guess the answer is: someone who's going to snap and start murdering strangers.

Sadly, yes, we know that now.

I find his many part-time homes rather strange as well. Was he just restless and easily bored? Maybe business interests? Was the Reno house -- the one with no furniture and fridge-size safe -- really more for storage than a home? A hiding place -- for weapons and/or himself? A rendezvous point with those accomplices the Sheriff believes he had helping him?

So many questions...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Boadicea

Since when could valium trigger aggressive behavior?

When the dosage isn't high enough to compensate for the withdrawals?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust

He really is a strange bird. The investigators have their work cut out for them. I'm very anxious to hear further from them... hopefully soon.

At the 5pm briefing on Tuesday, they sounded optimistic when stating that "in 48 hours, we'll have a lot more info for everybody".

Today (Wednesday) at the 5pm briefing, the investigators were frustrated that everyone wants answers that they didn't have.

President Trump heaped lavish praise on medical and law enforcement personnel in public today. But who know what he said to the top law guys in their private meeting.

a reply to: Xcathdra


Thank-you for that information. I mistakenly assumed that lie detectors had been improved since the 1980's.

So what IS a reliable (legal) method for ensuring that the truth is told?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: theantediluvian

I'm interested to know what the reason for the prescription for Valium was.

I initially assumed anxiety, but knowing now that he had high blood pressure and was an insomniac, I wonder if it may have been prescribed for those, or something related.

I'd bet the people that if anyone, the people that knew him best beyond his girlfriend will be high limit regulars and his executive hosts at the various casinos he frequented.

I'm betting with you.

And as for the rest of what you shared -- WOW! I had no idea. But good to know. Very good to know.

Normally a general practitioner would NOT prescribe Valium for a mental condition. I can speak from experience that if you are exhibiting or asking for a scrip for a mental condition from a GP, they won't even touch it. They will send you to a shrink. But then again, I guess it depends on the doctor or the MONEY?

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: theantediluvian

I'm interested to know what the reason for the prescription for Valium was.

I initially assumed anxiety, but knowing now that he had high blood pressure and was an insomniac, I wonder if it may have been prescribed for those, or something related.

I'd bet the people that if anyone, the people that knew him best beyond his girlfriend will be high limit regulars and his executive hosts at the various casinos he frequented.

I'm betting with you.

And as for the rest of what you shared -- WOW! I had no idea. But good to know. Very good to know.

Normally a general practitioner would NOT prescribe Valium for a mental condition. I can speak from experience that if you are exhibiting or asking for a scrip for a mental condition from a GP, they won't even touch it. They will send you to a shrink. But then again, I guess it depends on the doctor or the MONEY?

It most definitely depends on the doctor, my gp will prescribe me valium for my back injury, a friend of mine recently was at the gp for a mental health issue and was prescribed the valium to help him sleep....

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

WHy only that much, it is said he had way more. Maybe easier to wire? Marilou claims it was for her and family, and that it may have been an indication he wanted to breakup with her along with seeing her off.

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: dreamingawake


He planned to escape? That would explain why $100,000+ was wired to the Philippines then. Since Danley was the recipient, that also implies that she knew he was going to commit some type of crime and flee to her country to live for awhile.

I wonder if the FBI had MariLou Danley hooked up to a lie detector during her questioning today?

WHy only that much, it is said he had way more. Maybe easier to wire? Marilou claims it was for her and family, and that it may have been an indication he wanted to breakup with her along with seeing her off.

If it's true that he planned to escape, $100,000 would hold him for a few months in the Philippines wouldn't it? Besides, if Paddock was really good at gambling, he could turn that $100k into $500k or $1 million. (Assuming that gambling is legal in the Philippines.)