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The Second Amendment is Not The Problem, Violent Groups Like Antifa, BLM etc Are the Problem.

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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 12:54 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Dudemo5

It's perfect isn't it..one can demonise Muslims and the left in one fell swoop


i am not demonizing Muslims... I am pointing out that the majority of Muslims are very left wing, many being straight out socialists.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

You see we could even ask the Muslim members like "enslavedservant" who is a Muslim and left-wing. I bet to you that they are either democrats, progressives, or straight out socialists.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:00 AM
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Oh and btw, what I am trying to point out is that this lunatic could have been both an Antifa member/fan, and an ISIS sympathizer. Which would be why both Antifa and ISIS take credit for his murderous deed.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:27 AM
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BTW, in the official Melbourne Antifa website one of the people responding to the erased messages from this Antifa charter shows another of the deleted messages from this Antifa site.



Just scroll down on the website to find the response from that person.

www.facebook.com...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:37 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Any sources other than that Facebook account that could be run by just about anyone? No one else is saying he's a member of Antifa other than that one Facebook page, you can do better than that.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

They are not "just about anyone"... They are a charter of Antifa...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

He was wearing black. ANTIFA and ISIS favorite color is black. He's more than likely a radical leftist convert because of the targets he chose. I would say he's in the ANTIFA and ISIS realm.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:55 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

How do you know? What is the name of the person who posts on the account? Why are they calling a fake Twitter account "comrades"?

I know you'll continue to stick your head in the sand but it's an account used to prey on gullible people, just as Antifa as a whole preys on gullible people.

Again, where is another source other than that one Facebook account that you have no idea whom runs other than the ambiguous "Antifa" label? You can do better than a single Facebook page that could have been created by anyone.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: CraftyArrow

People wear black at funerals, are they automatically Antifa or ISIS members?

How long are your arms? Because that's quite a stretch you're making. I see people wearing all black a lot, doesn't mean they're Antifa or ISIS though.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 01:59 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

They are not "just about anyone"... They are a charter of Antifa...


I like how you completely ignored that he was a known republican and Donald Trump supporter according to his neighbor, who was a fellow Trump supporter.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:10 AM
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We are all the problem. And the solution...when we're ready to be.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:13 AM
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a reply to: Lucidparadox

There is SO much disinformation about this so far and people are just going with whatever suits their fancy. Whatever the police report says there are sure to be people who were influenced by this disinformation calling the police report fake.

This is 100% a psyop, people's biases have already been confirmed on both sides. Half the sources say he's a Trump supporter, the other half is saying he's an Antifa or ISIS member.

This whole thing is a set up and is part of the psychological war being waged on us by the government. People don't care though, they love the fight and will continue to buy into the narrative.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 02:13 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker




The dude had a hardcore gambling lifestyle.


The house always wins, I'm betting (pun intended) he lost bigtime and everyone else needed to pay for his mistakes.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 03:23 AM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

I like how you completely ignored that he was a known republican and Donald Trump supporter according to his neighbor, who was a fellow Trump supporter.


I like it how you want to completely believe the claims made by someone who can't be corroborated, but you ignore the statements made online which can be corroborated...

You see, anyone can claim anything they want calling a radio station... How do you confirm that person was his neighbor and not just another left-winger trying to pass as if he was from the right?... it's not the first time the left has done this... Jason Kessler anyone?...

The Antifa website can be corroborated to be Antifa and they posted that statement that the Las Vegas Murderer was an Antifa member and was probably a sympathizer of ISIS. Which is more believable because Antifa has attacked people in the right who have talked against Sharia law.



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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

i see...so Antifa, BLM, and all the other violent left-wing groups out there "were created by the government"?...



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 04:13 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What an awful post. I think we can all work out the demographic behind the thread's undeserved flag/star count.

You attempt to politicize a tragedy using fear, falsehoods and misinformation. Your arguments against tighter gun control laws are weak.

People who make threads such as these are a liability to the ATS community.


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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: Dudemo5

It's perfect isn't it..one can demonise Muslims and the left in one fell swoop


i am not demonizing Muslims... I am pointing out that the majority of Muslims are very left wing, many being straight out socialists.





Congratulations, that has to be one of the dumbest statements I have ever seen .



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 06:48 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yep, all to get people like you and others on the other side seeing ghosts and enemies among your neighbors. Divide and conquer, your rhetoric is proof it's working along with those who side with said groups like Antifa and BLM.
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posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 07:00 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Funny how you didn't include Nazis and the KKK in your list of violent organizations.



posted on Oct, 4 2017 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The murderer was from Melbourne Florida, not Melbourne Australia. Oops.



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