Germany - and what you think you know about it.

a reply to: Dfairlite
Haha, grüße Dich. (I greet you)

The thing with the no German flags, it´s getting better. At least when there is football the world cup our europe cup, we 'allow' ourselfs to be proud. It´s somehow weird because you won´t see any flag normally, if find that it´s a bit sad. We should be proud of our nation in terms of what we achieved in ~70 years after WW2 and allowed to show it. Sadly there are those types who still think it´s their burden, they react to the flag like the devil does to holy water. Lucky, we have the younger generation:


Your observation is true, many Germans won´t discuss politics or money on the street / in public, at least my generation. It´s sometimes hard to break the ice with a stranger, I noticed for example Americans are much more open from the start, when it comes to that. But it´s not 100% like that all the time with us.

For example there was a parade lately with more than 60 groups partaking in it (10-~70 people per group). My niche was sitting at the road with her little daughter, watching them go by one after another. I didn´t count, but so many people in the parade went out of their "normal" way to make the little one laugh, or makes jokes if that´s my drink (I was holding the babybottle...). Remember, if there is a fest, we party like there is no tomorrow. A beer to loosen up, then party with completely strange people through the night.

Have a nice day

a reply to: verschickter
i have several expat german friends they are some of the friendliest people i have ever met. we would sit and talk for several hours on german folklore and i introduced they to lots of local cuisine like collards, where to buy bet local grown watermelons and we would hangout at new berns annual mumfest which they really enjoyed, nothing wrong with blending cultures and ideas thats how mankind will thrive. and i will say this germany raises some of the best engineers on planet earth.

originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: DerBeobachter

It´s a whole Bundeswehr base, now its down to 500 but it was at 1800+ refugees for a year, in a 25000 people town. Believe me, that did not went unnoticed by the population.

Even the russians, that are living around the base and protested for a while. Then came the left and accused them of being (neo)nazis. Police had to "protect" them (they were in a freaking military base with fences. Although they also get attacked when 150-200 people of different nationality start a fight with weapons like stones and chair feet (this is not the right word) and they jump in to end it. Next day, they stand with their back towards them and "protect" them from "the german nazis".

Crazy times.

They even get training in martial arts, to "release the steam". Just wait, just wait.

Edit; That being said, never underestimate your opponent in a fight. Biggest mistake you can make in a fight if you ask me.

So right, every fight starts with using your brain!!!

And, what´s that, all together stored at one spot, 1800+ refugees in a 25000 souls town?
Sometimes i think some circles in power want riots. Want the citizen of that town protest or worse.
I mean, how the hell should that work? Because, just try to think that you are one of the 1800+ refugees, gathered at one spot like chicken in a farm. For me, i would start to become aggressive after some days of not sleeping, no silence etc.

But i see the difference between here and there. We don´t have huge shelters, but many where some hundred refugees live, many families with childs. And if you put some new citizens, or refugees, or migrants, or whoever into a million metropol(we say TOWN with a million citizens...), you almost don´t mention them. Everything looks like it ever was.

But to gather 1800+ stressed refugees in a 25000 citizens town and hoping that everything wents well, is "a bit" naive. And irresponsible by the officials. This is bad for everyone, the citizens and the refugees. That´s like programmed chaos.

Btw, good morning, had to quit yesterday, to rest my leg(the problem is, while writing here, i am simultanous working at my Arma Exile Survival server, and twelve hrs without break are away like nothing). But got a call from my very pretty, around 30 years old female doctor, and if i understood her right, the infect is away and they can fix my broken bone now. IF(!) i understood right, they will remove that unterschenkelfixateur(google it for pics, lol) from my leg, next week.

After now months of torture, problems and bad news the whole time, i can see a light at the end of the tunnel, finally...

a reply to: DerBeobachter
It´s a rather huge Kaserne. I PMed you the name of the town, so you can build your own opinion.

Get well fast Gute Besserung.

originally posted by: 0racle
a reply to: verschickter

yea no doubt many traumatised people fleeing conflict in syria, lybia, somalia and elsewhere, but the number of incidents accross europe where these people are given shelter, just makes me think that they are under psychological programming to think europeans are stupid and weak, and that they should take advantage and humiliate us in every despicable way.

Another view(not to excuse something!):
What i think, if i see myself as one of those refugees, maybe a little thug, coming to somewhere where nobody knows you, even the officials of that country don´t know your real name and age and everybody and everything around you is "gold", compared with where you came from. I guess they have a feeling of being untouchable. I would have it, being a poor thug. But i can just talk about what happens here in Cologne, and in the most cases the thugs aren´t refugees here in Cologne, but "Nafris", north africans (most from marocco and tunesia), that live here since years, or are even born here.

They are pickpocketing, drug(ok, most times hash or weed, no hard drugs) dealing, are often violent. I mean, i know who is selling weed and hash at which spot in the city, who is hanging around at which corners of the city. The Nafris "work" in the city center, around the cologne main station, the cathedral, the rhine there. Remember of which origin almost all of the "refugees" at the cologne NYE events 2015/16 were...

Right, morroco and tunesia. Most of them lived here for years, were no refugees. They gathered, for what reason ever, somehow at exactly that time and spot, what they never did before. And watching the whole vents, the lies of the officials, the police etc, one can easily smell a staged event. In my opinions to turn the "welcome" politics in germany to "not so welcome anymore" politics, without the politicians losing their face.

And because those "Nafris" have a bit darker skin and black hairs, they are all refugees for the average people. You know how people are. And so it comes that "nearly all refugees are criminal thugs".

Another thing is, only bad news are good news. Only problems are reported, but nobody tells you that the majority, of the nearly one million refugees we took, lives here peaceful. Guess how Germany would look if all of the refugges would act like Verschickter described, would act like my pakistani mate described, how they behave in and around their shelters, sometimes. We would have a civil war scenario here!

But we don´t have such a scenario. Right now it´s around 30 degrees celsius, sun is shining, the sky is blue, and people all are outside(except me...) and having fun, sitting in the parks with each other, smoking spliffs with each other, drinking beer and doing BBQ together, playing football(for sure a bit later, after work or whatever xD)... and don´t kill each other, or try too.

That shows us that not all, not the majority, but a little minority of the refugees are rotten apples, only that the sh*t they produce is well reported(i guess, because of the rightwinger "Zeirgeist" that rules nowadays, maybe) , otherwise it would look different here.

originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: DerBeobachter
It´s a rather huge Kaserne. I PMed you the name of the town, so you can build your own opinion.

Get well fast

Gute Besserung.

Thanks, but i guess if i understood my doc right, it´s maybe almost done. One more surgery(the eleventh one!!!, at that leg. Believe me, i will do anything so that i never ever have to go to a hospital in Germany again. If something happens in the future, i will take taxi, with my last powers, and will let me transport to the dutch border, to visit a dutch hospital!!!), i guess, to fix my bone now, that´s like "Kindergarten" for me now. I am even used to the anaesthesia now, i ake up, tell them to bring me to my romm, wash that sh*tty iodine of my body, roll a "sportsmenscigarette" and enjoy the rest of that Michael Jackson stuff in my body, they use Propofol for anaesthesia.

If life gives you lemons...

a reply to: verschickter

80% of these prejudices are the same people have about the netherlands...damnz we truly are a vassal state of germany

a reply to: verschickter

Germany - On my travel list.

I know that one is true.

a reply to: verschickter

I'll have to show this to a German friend from Hamburg who I shared a radio show with.

No sense of Humor? rubbish, every German I've met has had a wonderful sense of humor-as dark as it may be. Germany and Japan actually profited from WW2 in the form of BMW and Mitsubishi, which are some of the finest made cars in the world. And let's not forget it was America that poached German scientists who to build rockets for them-Operation Paperclip anyone?

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Hospitals are aweful, especially if you share the room with a savage. The ones that are going to take a # at night, groaning because it doesn´t work but do not close the door to the bathroom, so you wake up due to:

-Human moaning and groaning
-Overwhelming odor you can´t flee
-Light in the room

In this order.

Propofol is the stuff you also get when the do a colonoscopy. That´s heavy stuff, here is what happened to me ^^

They gave me something funny and I woke up in another room, all done but still in the OP cloth. After around 10 minutes I was stable enough to walk alone.
However they said to me I should go into the room and wait. I was supposed to just cross the floor but somehow I missunderstood that, because I saw my wife sitting in the waiting room, I walked towards her, I´ll never forget their look on the face...

But before I could reach it, I was upheld by two nurses half the way, when they turned me around to bring me to the right room to put on my clothes. Must have been a great view for the other patients.

And they we´re all in shock, because they were in it for the same .

a reply to: Felicio
Not quite, nobody thinks we can´t play football . Nah, I like the netherlands, not for the drugs but the beautiful landscape. Can germans still get MJ there?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04
If you ever do that and you visit the south, let me know

a reply to: Thecakeisalie
Show it to him, maybe he has something to add or critique

BMW: If not for the ~20k-25k slave workers there (in 1944)... but you´ll find that most big companies did that. Not an excuse either.

I know it´s stupid but it contains a ton of stereotypes

a reply to: verschickter

I believe the geen cards some cities at the border with germany and België used to keep drugtourism at a minimum got withdrawn...not sure though. drive 50 km further into the country and u can get all the MJ you can handle

a reply to: Felicio

You can get it easily anywhere these days, I'm in the UK and I forget it's even illegal.
Cops ignore personal possession, and even a handful of plants growing at home is unlikely to go to court, just confiscation and a formal caution.

a reply to: verschickter
Lol, that made me laugh. Sometimes you see people that come fresh from the surgery, nurses ask them something, and they start to tell the most weirdest things, without any sense.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Felicio

You can get it easily anywhere these days, I'm in the UK and I forget it's even illegal.
Cops ignore personal possession, and even a handful of plants growing at home is unlikely to go to court, just confiscation and a formal caution.

Almost same for me, i would need 30 min to the netherlands, to Maastricht. But in my whole life i have been there for weed just two times. Because i can get the same quality for almost the same prices here, in Cologne.
But if they catch you here with some weed, you will have to pay a fine. In Cologne(it´s different from city to city, from judge to judge, from federal state to federal state, etc) its about 100 euro per 0,1g. At least that is what i paid several times...

And the police is stealing weed.
No joke, it happened to me, it happened to several people i know.
Once they got me with exactly 30g minus one joint. I had to go to court for 20g`s.
So, where is that rest of 9,5g?
And you don´t tell the judge, otherweise you have to pay more...

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
And the police is stealing weed.
No joke, it happened to me, it happened to several people i know.
Once they got me with exactly 30g minus one joint. I had to go to court for 20g`s.
So, where is that rest of 9,5g?
And you don´t tell the judge, otherweise you have to pay more...

Hahaha! Same here!
It happened to a mate of mine who was growing plants and more than the 8-9 they ignore for personal use.
When it got to court half his plants had mysteriously disappeared, but he didn't tell the judge that and accepted the conviction for the lesser amount.
I think his fine was only about £300, and he only paid it back £5 per week.
Fines are paid in instalments here, they are not a punishment really, more of an annoyance than anything else.

a reply to: grainofsand

Thats great to hear, its about time the world legalizes it

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Haha those sneaky coppers

a reply to: verschickter

Germans are ok people

Little cold but ok