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"There were no less than Estimates of 30,000 and 40,000 people gathered when the miracle of the sun happened" by Avelino de Almeida writing for the Portuguese newspaper O Século,
"I estimate there were about 100,000 people in the area when the sun started to dance" by lawyer Dr. José Almeida Garrett, the son of a professor of natural sciences at the University of Coimbra.
O Seculo, Masonic newspaper of LIsbon, first newspaper report on the miracle of the sun at Fatima:
One can see the immense crowd turned toward the sun which reveals itself free of the clouds in full noon. The great star of the day make one think of a silver plate, and it is possible to look straight at it with least discomfort. It does not burn, it does not blind, it might be like an eclipse. But now it bursts forth a colossal clamor, and we hear the nearest spectators crying: "Miracle , Miracle! Marvel, Marvel!
Before the astonished eyes of the people whose attitude carries us back to biblical times, and who, full of terror, heads uncovered, gaze in to the blue of the sky, the sun has trembled and the sun has done some brusque movements, unprecedented and outside of all cosmic laws.
- The sun has danced - according with the typical expression of the peasants.
The people ask each one another if they have seen anything and what they have seen. The greatest number avow that they have seen the dancing and trembling of the sun. Others, however, declare that they have seen the smiling face of the Virgin herself, swear the the sun turned around itself like a wheel of fireworks; that it fell, almost to the point of burning the earth with its rays ... Another tells that he has seen it to change color successfully.
originally posted by: Urantia1111
a reply to: The angel of light
How can any of this be true when the entirety of Christianity is lifted and copied from much older religions?
All the virgin births, the special stars, the sons of gods, etc...
How can Mary even be real to cause this vision?
Religious ecstasy is a type of altered state of consciousness characterized by greatly reduced external awareness and expanded interior mental and spiritual awareness, frequently accompanied by visions and emotional euphoria. Although the experience is usually brief in time, there are records of such experiences lasting several days or even more, and of recurring experiences of ecstasy during one's lifetime...
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
It saddens me that someone with such faith can be so lost.
I'll pray for you.
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
a reply to: markosity1973
You can't get to heaven through Mary. She is a false idol.
ACCORDING TO THE VERSION PRESENTED BY SISTER LUCIA
IN THE “THIRD MEMOIR” OF 31 AUGUST 1941 FOR THE BISHOP OF LEIRIA-FATIMA
Well, the secret is made up of three distinct parts, two of which I am now going to reveal.
The first part is the vision of hell.
Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror.
We then looked up at Our Lady, who said to us so kindly and so sadly:
“You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world”.