This is WEIRD!!! (VERY weird!!)

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I'll back you up on this. I believe you. I have had WEIRD stuff happen like that on YouTube and Facebook (yes I have a Facebook account, and yes I know that makes me Part Of The Problem and probably the devil). Please post if you have any more strangeness. In my experience this stuff seems to happen in clusters.

a reply to: redhorse

Heh, it's probably just a funny coincidence, but when I first went to post this OP ATS freaked out on me and started doing some stuff I've never seen it do before either. Then suddenly I was logged out, so I had to log back in to post the OP.

That was probably just a completely unrelated glitch, but it was kind of odd. This notification box would pop up with the yellow triangle and exclamation point, but it didn't say anything. Just had an 'okay' acknowledgement button. Did the same thing several times. So I backed out and saw I was suddenly logged out. Probably nothing, just a burp somewhere.

Google is evil. Not being cute.

I cant keep up. Was apprentice to a super computer nerd 20 years ago. Today Im kicked out of my email for entering the correct password on the same device I always use. Then i get an email about it to the same account on the same device. Telling me somone has my password.. Yeah, thats me.. How are they confused, why do they insist on inaccurately tracking HARDWARE!?!?!

Google tech does not follow the logical methods. It attempts to connect everything and is 100% a computer operated entity being fed info to build up its status as the brain of Satan.

The more i think back. I have missing internet history quite often. And at least once has my "relative ads" showed up on my parents computer miles away, just by checking me email at their home. Not pornography but it might as well have been.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Spybot Anti-Beacon

In Windows 10 Privacy Settings make sure Wi-Fi Sense is off and stays off!

How to reclaim your privacy in Windows 10

The above information will help you "get started" locking things on your PC down. By no means is this "everything" and there are many more factors consider, but it's a good start.

You also need to know that there is more than one type of internet browser cookie. Java (some never expire) and Flash(LSO) cookies are not your friend, they will not clear when you delete your browser history/cookies on exit.

Always remember that Facebook, Google, Pinterest, and LinkedIn are evil (there's more to that list). They will track your computers device IDs, IP address, location and will link all your accounts/email/searches together.
For one example: Let’s say you log in to your Pinterest account on someone else’s PC. You log out and clear the browser history on exit thinking all is well but, Pinterest will continue to monitor everything that is searched for on that computer.
When someone else starts watching cat videos on that computer later, Pinterest will start emailing you cat information links.
What is by far the worst, if you use Facebook and Pinterest together, Pinterest will start reading the text you post to your Facebook wall (even if set to private) and start sending you related suggestions from your posts.

We do not see things as how they really are, but how others want us to perceive them to be.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: redhorse

Heh, it's probably just a funny coincidence, but when I first went to post this OP ATS freaked out on me and started doing some stuff I've never seen it do before either. Then suddenly I was logged out, so I had to log back in to post the OP.

That was probably just a completely unrelated glitch, but it was kind of odd. This notification box would pop up with the yellow triangle and exclamation point, but it didn't say anything. Just had an 'okay' acknowledgement button. Did the same thing several times. So I backed out and saw I was suddenly logged out. Probably nothing, just a burp somewhere.

Yeah could just be a glitch. But that's sort of what I'm talking about; just a collection of weirdness for a few days.

I've had this happen a few times, and the worst one culminated when my sound bar, that I had left on all day after listening to YouTube, started talking. It just said "Fred", which oddly enough is the name of one of the three men who is my possible biological father. I had been talking about it A LOT at the time, both on line and off, so it had an added emotional punch. Probably TMI, and I know it makes me look as crazy as a bucket of frogs, but it was weird, just friggin bizarre. Spooked me and my daughter both.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
If it makes you feel any better ATS was on the flitz today for me too. I even made a thread because I couldn't post pictures this morning.

I've had a similar experience where I opened YouTube to find myself logged in as a neighbour of mine who never had access to my computer but did make a Gmail account on the computer of my spouse. I wasn't so much spooked as I was annoyed because I remember it was pretty hard to get YouTube to forget about my neighbor.

I can't say that I practice the same security precautions as you do so the two situations can't really be compared.

What I was wondering in your case though, maybe your external IP of your private computer is the same as the external IP when you made the account with your work laptop? Did you test the account by logging in? Maybe you didn't use VPN and the likes when making the account for your mom because it wasn't work related?

Just some thoughts that you might be able to dismiss immediately

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Fascinating thread.

Recently I met someone who makes made nano tracking devices for Google. The reason they talked about it was their strong discomfort, why do Google have these mass produced nano trackers?

originally posted by: geezlouise
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Gotcha, lol.

You got something to hide tho?

Are you actually reading the words typed by OP or just shooting from the hip here?

a reply to: Martin75

the microphones are always on. I read the other day on ATS, a smart appliances thread, that if you want privacy remove the battery of your mobile phone and place it in a sealed compartment like a microwave oven.

a reply to: sputniksteve

Not sure what you are saying.

Someone can use your computer without you knowing... that's what I suggested, essentially.

I didn't know the guy is in the security IT biz and secures his laptop six ways to Sunday because of it. Or maybe I'm naive and it's completely normal to do that?

I am not a tech wizard so the first thing that came to mind was human error or human doing of some sort.

I think some people here offered some great info/experiences so far.

I would go through the steps to recover and change the password for the YouTube account in question, then once that's done and you're logged in with a new password, terminate the YouTube account entirely. Then, when and where possible, do the same for the Gmail account and all other associated accounts linked to it.

I had this sort of thing happen when my account got hijacked by someone who managed to brute force my passwords. Best just to be on the safe side imo. If your mom never uses the account anyway, best to lock it down, then terminate.

Good luck.

Peace.

Impossible.

Is it possible that when you made her GMail(which can be used for YouTube) account, it was then hooked to yours and you accidentally singed into hers from that? Or that someone accessed yours or hers and connected them.

Check this: One account for all of Google -Link

Google has alot of weird stuff in their settings. Sometimes it syncs up accounts for no reason. Idk tho. Only thing i could think of. Look at all the differant settings and see if its syncing your accounts.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
I totally buy it. I've had some really weird stuff like that happen as well. Google is the devil.

Ironically, in your signature you link to a youtube video.... youtube is owned by Google

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Okay, so I'm sitting here at my computer surfing the net, and as usual one website leads to another. I wound up watching a video on you-toob about a Russian warship. The video quality was really bad so I scrolled down to the comments to see what others were saying about the same thing. This is when things got weird...REALLY WEIRD!!

Now what I'm about to say is 100% accurate, no mistakes, no oversights, nothing I forgot...this actually happened just as I characterize...

As I scroll down to the comments I see a comment box which says "You are commenting as (insert my Mom's name, first and last)". Huh?????

Okay, so first of all, I NEVER log into you-toob. Never. Never, never, never. I did have an account eons ago, but I've long since forgotten what the username and password is. I'm shocked to see I'm logged in as my mother. Mom is 92 years old...and she doesn't have a clue to what you-toob even is, how to get there...or even what to do if she accidentally did.

So next, I go up to the top of the page and sure enough, I see I'm actually logged into you-toob. WTH?? So I look to see what's in the user profile. I'm stunned to see mom's name ([email protected]) (note: I'm intentionally not typing her actual name for obvious reasons). WOW!

About a year ago I created a gmail for her, and that was the email address while visiting her. I did this on HER computer, not mine. While attempting to show her how to use the account it became quite apparent that she would be quite unable to use it successfully. Even though I'd tried to make it as simple as possible, there were just too many steps for her to keep track of. So I pretty much gave up the idea. To test the account I'd sent her some test emails from my phone. My phone is a work phone and is in no way connected to any of my personal accounts. I'd used my work email to send the tests, and my work email is a completely separate domain (connected to my work enterprise network). Since then I've not sent ANY email to the account I set up for her...and CERTAINLY not anything from my home laptop! Yet, all of a sudden I'm logged into you-toob as her...ON my personal laptop...at home! And there's even more!...

I started thinking about how this could be. For (obvious) security reasons I never use my real name on any of my personal computer equipment. Never. Anything I do related to work is done via highly secure VPN connections. There is absolutely no connection between my personal information and anything I do on my personal laptop. And certainly not anything which would lead to a connection like this being made between me and my mother. (she's 2,000 miles away, BTW). There's just no possible way!

I can say with absolute 100% certainty I have never even typed my mothers name into my laptop or any other personal device I own. 100% certain of this. I am only a member of (2) websites, and ATS is one of them. I do not have FailBook accounts or participate in any other social media.

I spoke with Mom and she said she hasn't even turned on her computer since I was there visiting. In fact, she said she doesn't even think it's working anymore because she said they (the ISP) sent her some kind of bill a long time ago and she doesn't think it was paid even (not good, I know, but it's what she said). So, she definitely hasn't been on-line.

So here I am, just blindly surfing the net when I stumble upon a you-toob video (about a Russian warship no less...something of zero interest to Mom) when I see, out of the blue, I'm logged into you-toob as her!! WTF????

Now, I know google is into some pretty serious data mining and the like (probably for the NSA and others), and I've heard of some crazy stuff before, but this one takes the cake! I work in electronic systems and network security, so I'm pretty savvy when it comes to personal information and the like. What happened simply CANNOT happen...AND, that it happened to me (of all people) scares the living crap out of me! It doesn't scare me because of myself personally, but rather how much information google must have about others who are not nearly as meticulous and careful as I am! The average person would not take nearly the measures I do...and yet this happened!

Seriously, that is REALLY spooky!!

Love to hear your thoughts.

Since you mentioned that you are involved with network security I must ask: Have you thoroughly investigated any and all stored cookies, browser cache and SEAL certs?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Did your mothers computer have a camera?

My guess is Google hacked your mothers camera and used a facial recognition algorithm to determine that you were the one that actually using her computer when the account was set up.

I wouldn't be surprised if Google used some kind of face recognition software that identified you through the camera and then linked your face to her account on their end.

Do you have a gmail account of your own?

I'm going with facial recognition from an ATM or bank surveillance. Or perhaps the culprit is Target....remember?

Data mining capitalist have no shame. All and any info is bought, sold and traded just like any commodity.

Or perhaps it's your microwave....like KellyAnne said....


fortune.com...

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

log in to her gmail account, check the log in history - it was already suggested, yet you've ignored it, while it should be the very first thing you should do. post your findings.

also, gmail and youtube aren't exactly separate - quite the opposite, gmail account is actually google account, optionally connected to services like youtube, google+ and so on.

with all due respect, your investigation skills seem to be severely lacking, like you got caught up in some sort of paranoia and stopped thinking logically, or at all. you can't even spell TB correctly. if that's how you deal with IT on a daily basis, i feel sorry for the company you're working for.