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Section 1. Purpose.
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In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles. The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.
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I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas).
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After the 60-day period described in subsection (d) of this section expires, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a list of countries recommended for inclusion on a Presidential proclamation that would prohibit the entry of foreign nationals (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas) from countries that do not provide the information requested pursuant to subsection (d) of this section until compliance occurs.
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Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
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Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.
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the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship — and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
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originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: mobiusmale
For some reason, and I doubt I will ever understand why...
Ever read the Constitution?
Feel free, then you'll understand what's 'wrong' with Trump's selective Muslim ban!
What would you want to bet that Trump NEVER read the Constitution through?
“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.”
― Ronald Reagan
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But,
under the name of 'Liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program,
until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas (US Socialist Presidential Candidate)
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent
the government from wasting the labors of the people
under the pretense of taking care of them."
- Thomas Jefferson
"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a country.
One is by the sword. The other is by debt."
- John Adams
(How about a $18 trillion dollar deficit?)
originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: Aazadan
The only arguments I have seen are the legality and constitutionality of it. As to whether it is right, arguably yes. It's merely a temporary ban on regions designated as hostile to American interests. I think it is vital to get a handle on what is going on and attempt to create a proper vetting process so that we may help people while remaining safe.
I responded previously based on the tone and structure of your source.
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: mobiusmale
For some reason, and I doubt I will ever understand why...
Ever read the Constitution?
Feel free, then you'll understand what's 'wrong' with Trump's selective Muslim ban!
What would you want to bet that Trump NEVER read the Constitution through?
Show how it is a ban on Muslims, links please, support your claim.
originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: namelesss
INA. Feng Yue Ting v US.
All that needs to be said. 100% legal.
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: mobiusmale
For some reason, and I doubt I will ever understand why...
Ever read the Constitution?
Feel free, then you'll understand what's 'wrong' with Trump's selective Muslim ban!
What would you want to bet that Trump NEVER read the Constitution through?
Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
originally posted by: 727Sky
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: mobiusmale
For some reason, and I doubt I will ever understand why...
Ever read the Constitution?
Feel free, then you'll understand what's 'wrong' with Trump's selective Muslim ban!
What would you want to bet that Trump NEVER read the Constitution through?
You ever read the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952... That pesky little law that Jimmy Carter used to kick out 15,000 Iranians back in 1979 ?
Didn't think so...
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: namelesss
The spirit of the order is to ban Muslims, that's pretty obvious. The letter of the law though is that it doesn't. It's banning everyone from those nations. Most of who it's banning are Muslims, but that doesn't mean they're being banned because they're Muslim.
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: mobiusmale
For some reason, and I doubt I will ever understand why...
Ever read the Constitution?
Feel free, then you'll understand what's 'wrong' with Trump's selective Muslim ban!
What would you want to bet that Trump NEVER read the Constitution through?
Show how it is a ban on Muslims, links please, support your claim.
Don't be silly, what, do you think, is the religion of over 90% of all the refugees?
You hardly see Jewish groups up in arms, or Catholics/Xtians or Buddhists.
The vastest majority are Muslims.
(Excluding from the ban, of course, the countries with which Trump does business...)
Of course you always have the 'alternative facts', like it was just a coincidence that the countries banned just happened to be majority Muslim.
That he really didn't seek help with his "Muslim Ban"?
(Wasn't that a very recent headline?
Must be 'false news' or 'unfair'!
Right?
Pathetic excuse, if you ask me.
The WH is filled with racists who got elected by other racists to go forth and do racist stuff.
Don't disseminate now!
Say it, Mexicans are criminals and Muslims are terrorists and should both be kept out der Fatherland.
And keep out the Jews, too, of course... *__-
Nah, if stats are needed, unbiased stats, you'd need them to educate me.
We can start with the % majority religion of those refugees refused entry into our oh-so 'Xtian' country...
And, about his direct quote asking how to enact his "Muslim ban".
In a way, I am enjoying the numbers of his followers who are getting tired of being betrayed, tired of inventing 'alternative', tired of having to turn to the White House for approval of all 'thoughts'.
No?
You will be. *__-
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: namelesss
INA. Feng Yue Ting v US.
All that needs to be said. 100% legal.
Despite your alphabet soup, the courts will decide the 'legality', and King Trump's first decree appears to be (get used to it) losing legal ground.
I know, 'false unfair courts'...! *__-
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: mobiusmale
For some reason, and I doubt I will ever understand why...
Ever read the Constitution?
Feel free, then you'll understand what's 'wrong' with Trump's selective Muslim ban!
What would you want to bet that Trump NEVER read the Constitution through?