Syrian Christian family, visas in hand, turned back at airport.

a reply to: JinMI

I have since dismissed any seriousness in regards to Trump. I insert nuggets of truth in my posts while mocking your president who is clearly worthy of mockery.

There is no blind hatred. Possibly blind amusement. Get it correct.

originally posted by: JinMI
AhA!

Some headway.
en.wikipedia.org...

Wading through the fake news is a time consuming affair. Good on you.

a reply to: FelisOrion

I'll agree, no able bodied person especially those in public office, who are above mockery, have at it.

If you wish to insert nuggets of truth as you put it, back it up with sourced information. Otherwise, you just come off as a troll.

a reply to: watchitburn


He is only suspending the immigration to find out what the " heck has been going on" Which basically sums up the whole confused mess that he has to work under.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

What is clear is that the MSM is pursuing some sort of conflict of interest initiative. Everything revolves around that premise and cherry picked information is being put into the mix.

This used to be an easy task ><

a reply to: JinMI

Ah, truths. Like 250,000 is equal to or greater than 1.8 million? Or truths like.. 3-5 million people illegally voted for Hilary (nevermind the fact that those illegal votes could be in favor of trump). Those truths? Or how bout the truth recently revealed in another thread where it is recorded that more people die from Armed toddlers than Radical Islamic Terrorist in the US?


Which truth are we talking about? You must clarify because we are now living in an age of Alternative facts.

a reply to: FelisOrion

Ah, fine, be obtuse. Keep posting crap, expect it to get refuted.

I'm sure you'll eat up anything that confirms your bias.

a reply to: JinMI

These were the countries designated as 'of particular concern' in 2016:

On February 29, 2016, Burma, China, Eritrea, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan were re-designated as CPCs. Tajikistan was also designated as a CPC.

www.state.gov...

Well ain't that interesting. Saudi Arabia is not on that list. I'm pretty sure Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan and muslim majority countries too. Something is just not adding up here JinMI... maybe you could explain.

a reply to: JinMI

Ah, I am clearly asking for clarification, since you seem to be hell bent on finding the truth? So which truth?

Do you believe 250,000, or even at its max, 500,000 (and I am being generous) is equal to or greater than 1.8 millions, and at its lowest 1.1million? Do you believe 3-5 million illegal immigrants voted for Hilary and none of the votes were to Donald?

Do you believe he is not banning people based on their religion, even though he included a provision which allowed Christians to pass safely?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Your barking up the wrong tree SG. I'm fact digging myself.

I've never heard of the term CPC before, pretty interesting.

It all pertains to this:

Religious freedom is a universally acknowledged right enshrined in numerous international covenants and declarations such as the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the Helsinki Accords, and others. When we strive to advance religious freedom, we are simply urging other nations to join with us in upholding a high but universal standard. In addition, respect for religious freedom and tolerance of the practices and beliefs of people of all faiths lie at the heart of the American identity and constitute some of main principles on which this country was founded. The United States has continued to attract new citizens from all over the world for this very reason. No country has a perfect record of religious freedom, including the United States, and we can all endeavor to reach a higher standard. We support the right of all countries to speak out when human rights, including religious freedom, are abused.

a reply to: FelisOrion

The vote is over and I don't care, especially as it pertains to Trumps ego.

Now were talking, this provision. Source please.

a reply to: JinMI

Honest to god I have my source copy and pasted but I'm not going to paste it for you. Google it. I am sure you will find many sites that mention the provision that exclude Christians because they are the persecuted religion. So let's see here, ban Muslims, allow Christians. Discriminatory? Yes or no?

Even though Radical Muslims who are hell bent on spreading terror can just pretend to be Christian to get through, and the truly devout moderate Muslims who would never dare betray their religion, are now turned away sent back to a war torn country.

Wouldn't it be ironic if terrorism increased under this new Muslim ban? Hmm, surely it would.

a reply to: FelisOrion

a reply to: JinMI

Allow Christians, ban Muslims. Discriminatory. Yes or no?

Google the definition of Yes and No, and get back to me.

a reply to: FelisOrion

You are working under the presumption that Islam is a religion - let's be extremely clear - it is not a 'religion' by way of the western definition of the word - more an all encompassing way of life where submission to Allah is only one part of it.

Devout Muslims would rank the Koran as the ultimate authority on morality, laws and human conduct over any other document in existence and we see in all countries where Islam is practiced, this self-segregation and refusal to assimilate into foreign cultures will ensure it remains a pariah to the collective consciousness of humanity.

a reply to: FelisOrion

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Understood. According to alternative facts, Islam is not a religion, but a way of life. So in that case, is Christianity not a religion, but a way of life? Devout Christians rank the Bible as the ultimate authority on morality, laws and human conduct. Deout Christians practice self-segregation. (The secular world, as they refer to sinful people----I was raised in church, I know what they call you) Refusal to assimilate? Well that is just nonsense. All the Muslims currently living in America; do they too refuse to assimilate?

Again, allowing someone or disallowing someone based off their religion. Is this discriminatory or not? Does this represent the principles of America? Yes or no? Immigrants built this country. Now we reject immigrants based on religion? What is next? Justification for banning refugees and immigrants based on race? This is how it starts. That is what America stands for?

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: FelisOrion

You are working under the presumption that Islam is a religion - let's be extremely clear - it is not a 'religion' by way of the western definition of the word - more an all encompassing way of life where submission to Allah is only one part of it.

Devout Muslims would rank the Koran as the ultimate authority on morality, laws and human conduct over any other document in existence and we see in all countries where Islam is practiced, this self-segregation and refusal to assimilate into foreign cultures will ensure it remains a pariah to the collective consciousness of humanity.

Funny. All my Muslim friends and all the myslims in my are all seem to be assimilating and mingling with us just fine.

But then I guess I have my eyes open to sw this. You should try it.

Let me ask...do you actually know any Muslims?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: FelisOrion

You are working under the presumption that Islam is a religion - let's be extremely clear - it is not a 'religion' by way of the western definition of the word - more an all encompassing way of life where submission to Allah is only one part of it.

Devout Muslims would rank the Koran as the ultimate authority on morality, laws and human conduct over any other document in existence and we see in all countries where Islam is practiced, this self-segregation and refusal to assimilate into foreign cultures will ensure it remains a pariah to the collective consciousness of humanity.

Funny. All my Muslim friends and all the myslims in my are all seem to be assimilating and mingling with us just fine.

But then I guess I have my eyes open to sw this. You should try it.

Let me ask...do you actually know any Muslims?

Yes, I work in Indonesia visiting approx 3 months a year, have done so for the past 10 years. I lived on Christmas Island, a predominantly Islamic society, for many years amassing many life long friends. I directly employ folks from Saudi Arabia and Qatar in the oil and gas industry and have visited the Middle East countless times in my maritime career.

Yes, I know Muslims, I work and live with them.