Video compilation of NASA admitting they can't fly past low earth orbit

originally posted by: Geki09
a reply to: Zaphod58

Let's be honest. My people didn't give your people permission to leave this plane. And you guys won't have permission for a looooong time until your agencies are honest with Earth's residents and have good intentions to begin with. We see and know all.

You arent a Rk and or non terrestrial officer so you do not know of what you speak. HUmans been out to the place where comets come from around here.

(now not to say everything is as was stated. remember the rule on truth to BS ratio.)

a reply to: choos

I'm not Rocket Scientist so no, I didn't know that sorry. But no one knew that before Van Allen proclaimed it did they?

originally posted by: Black_Fox

Is it possible we will never know for ourselves till we get chance to go there?
Absolutely.

whether they are telling the truth or not, still makes the statement false, is my point.

its just that you have chosen not to believe them, you have chosen to not investigate the reality of it and have decided to be content that you dont know and no one else knows.

to be fair, thats fine, not every one needs to know about walking on the moon nor is it very relevant to your average joe.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ADSE255

The belts aren't completely circling the earth.

The reason for the thinning is that the belts are created by the magnetic field of the earth. So it follows the same shape as the magnetic field. So where the field is thinner, the belts are thinner.

That's alot of belt layers to find holes in sync for safe breach. And what about coming back? You need to wait for another perfect storm scenerio for re-entry? What if there's an emergency and you can't wait?

Seems like a bunch of pseudo science.

a reply to: ADSE255

There is evidence that the fields weaken on their own, and the poles flip naturally. I can't think of any technology that would be strong enough to cause the magnetic field to weaken like that.

a reply to: ADSE255

not knowing doesnt mean that they cant find out.. they made a goal to get to the moon, if they didnt know something it would make sense for them to know more about it.

like during launch there would be a vibration that could shake apart the rocket, this was not known about, but they found out and found out ways to overcome it.

not everyone who reaches a difficult situation/problem just gives up.

a reply to: Geki09

They went up near the pole and through the top of the belts. There was no reason to find holes. The location of the moon allows for a trajectory that doesn't go anywhere near the main part of the belts. The location of Mars and other targets doesn't.

a reply to: choos

Ok, Ill try again.

There are people who know if we went to the moon or not.

But people will never know if they are telling the truth.

And we will probably never know what the truth is.

As much as I cant say we didn't go to the moon, the "average" person can say we did for certain either.

So, again, i'm sticking with I don't know. And neither do you.

~Cheers~

a reply to: choos

Why do you believe that statement to be false. It's an opinion. How can an opinion be false?

And who's to say the Military didn't have green screen capabilities years before using it in movies today? It's been said that the Military is years in advanced technology to what were actually told.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Geki09
a reply to: Zaphod58

Let's be honest. My people didn't give your people permission to leave this plane. And you guys won't have permission for a looooong time until your agencies are honest with Earth's residents and have good intentions to begin with. We see and know all.

You arent a Rk and or non terrestrial officer so you do not know of what you speak. HUmans been out to the place where comets come from around here.

(now not to say everything is as was stated. remember the rule on truth to BS ratio.)

People have been granted access to the Stars and celestial bodies, just not all of these liar agencies. The irony is they truly want to explore the stars, but they can't help themselves. They maintain this charade that just costs them points.

a reply to: ADSE255

The military is, in some ways, years ahead of where the public is, but in other ways is actually behind where the public is. The F-35 is a great example of that. The processors on that aircraft are only just being upgraded into quad core processors, and it's the first military aircraft to use an off the shelf programming language.

a reply to: Black_Fox

there are ways for you to find out, there is more evidence in support of man walking on the moon than there is of not. there are many things that simply cannot be faked.

but its alot of work to go through everything, its probably better for most people to just say "I dont know"

a reply to: Zaphod58

It's an interesting topic. The area and potential problems of the radiation belts in particular.

originally posted by: ADSE255
a reply to: choos

Why do you believe that statement to be false. It's an opinion. How can an opinion be false?

because the people who faked it, know for sure. (not saying its faked just for arguments sake)

And who's to say the Military didn't have green screen capabilities years before using it in movies today? It's been said that the Military is years in advanced technology to what were actually told.

green screen capabilities still cannot fake video that was shown to the public.. we are talking about weather/cloud patterns of earth (hurricanes), lunar gravity of fine particles etc. there are some things that simply cannot be faked, but its not easy for most people to grasp so they tend to stick with movie magic.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I'm not too familiar with aircraft, do you know when the F-35 came out? But if they could send craft to the moon why wouldn't they be able to upgrade earth bound aircraft with the same thrust abilities?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Geki09

They went up near the pole and through the top of the belts. There was no reason to find holes. The location of the moon allows for a trajectory that doesn't go anywhere near the main part of the belts. The location of Mars and other targets doesn't.

You're saying they use the hole at the emission points of the Earth's magnetic field?

The image you uploaded is similar to a torsion field, a torrid. Correct? In a torsion field there is no "hole" from the surface of the Earth. You're inside a bubble. There is a hole in the top of the funnel of the torrid. But that's outside of the field.

Please elaborate.

a reply to: Geki09

There's no a hole, there's a thin portion. The belts aren't a uniform thickness all the way around the earth. They went to where the thinnest portion is located, near the poles, and went through there.

a reply to: choos

Yes but you need to explain Why you believe it's impossible to fake something like that. Not even Richard Bronson has been successful in conquering outer space without his shuttle blowing up. He's a billionaire with the best of the best at his disposal.

a reply to: ADSE255

The F-35A was declared operational last September, and the B in 2015. They're still testing and developing them.

The different gravity and lack of air doesn't lend itself to an earth bound control system.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Good point !