Fits and seizures - Under the dome

Hi ATS,

So, I just watched the first episode of under the dome and one thing I instantly recognized and that's the fits people seem to randomly have.

I know someone who has epileptic fits and during their fit they always shout about the stars are falling, has anyone else ever seen or heard of this?

Weirdly enough the person claims to speak to the other side during these fits, I mean it seemed pretty compelling to me and I can be pretty skeptical at times... I was convinced there was something to it.

Either some truth existed to the persons claim or they are a expert BS artist.

So has anyone seen or heard of this?

A person who talks to the other side during fits, they are panicky when it comes to shouting about the stars, kinda freaked me out.

a reply to: RAY1990

I have heard of people with certain conditions seeing falling streaks ...

I have seen stars thpugh, lol.

I would put the episode down to the brain functioning in a different and unexpected way.

Not necessarily a revelation ..
But hey our brains are wired in ways we are yet to fully understand.

Ie ... Do we have access to the greater subconcious ?

Science is coming to the party ... soon ?

a reply to: insafali737

What's a skin condition got to do with the Op?

Once you have 20 posts you can create your own thread, preferably in the medical conditions & conspiracies forum.

a reply to: Timely

Yeah, I've tried looking it up with little success.

I'd have just put it down to the epileptic fit but after the person fitted for 2 hours ( the person was in and out) I was talking to my brother about an old man he has saw in his house.

She snapped out of the fit and said it was her grandfather, she then went on a tirade of revelations that kinda freaked me out.

Super active imagination?

a reply to: RAY1990

Or an NDE ... ?

We are not privvy to those experiences ... unless ?

a reply to: Timely

It's possible.

The person was heavily intoxicated when she had a fit, alcohol tends to trigger it.

I don't know, I've seen a few things in my time that made me go wtf. But this seemed to take the biscuit, I still can't rationally explain it.

It's been suspected that the fits are not real by medical experts... They are really interested in her.

I've read about religious and paranormal experiences with people who have seizures. Basically an overactive temporal lobe.

Again though, the things said would need to be thought over I would imagine. The brain is a powerful thing though...

a reply to: RAY1990

Sometimes rationality can't satisfy our logic ...

So we put it down to a WTF moment and move along.

But we remember and are now tuned to see these type of life moments as they happen.

There is more than meets the eye ... IMO .

a reply to: Timely

Totally agree with you.

Most of the irrational is only irrational due to the fact their is a lot we haven't or couldn't see.

originally posted by: RAY1990


I know someone who has epileptic fits and during their fit they always shout about the stars are falling, has anyone else ever seen or heard of this?

So has anyone seen or heard of this?

A person who talks to the other side during fits, they are panicky when it comes to shouting about the stars, kinda freaked me out.

Yeah, that is freaky. But as far as epilepsy goes, the sight of falling stars is common. Perturbations of the temporal lobe -- behind the "temple" of the head (now there's an aptly-named piece of anatomy!) cause experiences of "presences in the room" (cf. work of the Canadian neurphysiologist Dr. Michael Persinger) as well as visions of haloes and falling stars. I recall seeing these when I banged the right (or was it left?) side of my head on the ground at age 9.

So your friend's symptoms (the visions, if not the verbalizations, necessarily) are not atypical of epilepsy and/or temporal lobe seizures generally. Sounds like your friend should have the attentions of a good neurologist and/or neuropsychiatrist.

a reply to: Namdru

Cheers for that.

It could be she is making it up, she is seeing specialists and their notes indicate probable epilepsy triggered by excessive drinking and/or stress.

It is kinda freaky having someone tell you the future and things about family members that have past that they are apparently in contact with. Strange stuff.

It's claimed everyone is over there and she talks with them often, although she shouldn't talk about what they tell her too much.

Personally I wouldn't think she's capable of being so elaborate if she is making it up. I've seen and helped other people having fits and strokes, the paranormal angle like this though was totally new to me. Again, I wouldn't have took her as a storyteller.

Maybe she is in contact, possibly she thinks about this a lot...

They are going to enduce seizures via sleep deprivation soon, it would be interesting to see just what is firing when they do. I may ask her about the results.

a reply to: RAY1990

People make a living as "channelers ".

Sounds like a similar claim.

If she is privvy, even by hearsay of your families personal histories ...

Explore further. If not, who can say there is not something to it ?



ED: Hoping the best for your friends health btw !

a reply to: RAY1990

Not sure what an "epileptic fit" is supposed to be, but people having actual seizures don't go around shouting about anything. They're typically too busy having a seizure at the time. Grunting, yes. Moaning, yes. Every muscle in their body contracting at once, yes. Talking about anything, much less shouting, no. I'd say BS is the most likely explanation.

a reply to: RAY1990

The only thing that I can say in response to this thread is stop watching "Under The Dome." You'll never get those hours back that you invest into the show.

I think my wife and I watched into the third season and just stopped--it got really ridiculous, and kind of started by like "Lost" way back in the day, where it just dragged on and on and there was no real progress on the main plot.

I'm just saying--if you continue to watch it, keep that in mind. The first two seasons were okay, IIRC.

Read the book!

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: RAY1990

Not sure what an "epileptic fit" is supposed to be, but people having actual seizures don't go around shouting about anything. They're typically too busy having a seizure at the time. Grunting, yes. Moaning, yes. Every muscle in their body contracting at once, yes. Talking about anything, much less shouting, no. I'd say BS is the most likely explanation.

She has seizures or "fits" I don't see much of an issue withy terminology.

They last usually 20 minutes but can go anywhere up to a few hours, she has convulsions. I should know I had to carry and restrain her.

Maybe I could have explained it better... Here:

She has an indication (some do) that she is going to have a fit, when the fit strikes it's akin to a stroke. A slow loss of consciousness, her pupils dilate and her eyes remain (usually) open, she is partially responsive though this is depending upon how bad the fit is and where she is in terms of stage in relation to said fit.

When she has brief moments of control she repeats (the falling the stars are falling) and she occasionally calls out her partners name or names of close family members.

She is not sitting their convulsing and channeling, she only has moments of ease to be able to slur and/or move, usually in order to get help or be moved into a safer position.

All the talking of the other side or "channeling" if you will was done AFTER the fit, considering I just watched her have seizures for nearly 2 hours I hardly expect her to be able to think of elaborate stories, though of course I have explored the possibility in my mind.

Again, she isn't "channeling" whilst having a fit. She can manage brief words and these are usually calls for help or shouting about stars falling. The stars falling is usually followed by what appears to be more distress.

Hope this clears things up.

EDIT:

I find it highly improbable that you know about seizures and never heard of an epileptic fit...

a reply to: SlapMonkey

He he.

I've watched a few, it's ok so far but it's already got a bit silly at times.

Cheers for the heads up

a reply to: RAY1990
I've not known or heard of anyone who says the stars are falling, but as there are many different types of epilepsy (and types of seizures), it's not impossible for a person to talk during a seizure. It just depends on what form of seizure it is.

I have one of the "atypical" forms of epilepsy. I am fully cognizant of my seizures when they occur and can recall them afterwards. And no, I don't fall to the floor and thrash about and moan. Not every epileptic does. However, many people still believe that all epileptics do!

I won't bore you with lots of detail, but I suffered with this condition for years before I was finally (correctly) diagnosed by a consultant neurologist when I was about 38. Until then, doctors I saw thought I was being affected by clinical depression. They were not neurologists but psychiatrists, so they apparently didn't know that a person can have epileptic episodes but remain fully conscious and aware, as in my case.

It's possible this person you spoke of has both an epileptic condition and a psychiatric one. I wound up being treated by psychiatrists for years because they thought my condition was purely psychiatric. It wasn't. I simply felt bad because I knew something was wrong, but didn't know what it was! Once the epilepsy was correctly treated and managed (so my seizures are now very rare events), my psychiatric issues went away.

So, it might be a good idea for this person to see a neurologist, one who can do a range of tests including an EEG while using a strobe light at various speeds. It was the strobe-EEG traces that gave my neurologist the definitive diagnosis.

a reply to: Timely

Well that's it!

I wanted to see if anyone else has had similar experiences, the fit/seizures were very real I'm just not sure if I was played like a sucker.

Maybe buy her some booze and have a strobe light party... I'm kidding, but it's intriguing to say the least.

He's likely seeing phosphenes.

It is not at all unusual for epileptics to have various aura (physical sensations associated with their seizure). Some have a smell or sound occur before a seizure occurs, some have it during.

Afterwards is known as "postictal" and is typically marked by confusion and delusion for a brief period. Or extreme lethargy.

Anyway, the falling stars sounds like phosphenes to me.