It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: kruphix
No act is Unconstitutional until the Supreme Court deems it is.
Again, that is incorrect. The SCOTUS may merely FIND that an act is Unconstitutional and the act was Unconstitutional BEFORE that FINDING.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
In light of what Shamrock points out, however....then it becomes a religious test which disqualified him.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: MotherMayEye
One thing i totally agree with you on is that its nice to have a political discussion on ATS that is not about he and she who shall not be named.
Otherwise I think you have read way too much into this.
Great. Thanks for finding something nice to say.
I happen to think words are very important when it comes to Oaths.
Agree to disagree.
originally posted by: kruphix
But it is not actionable and so for all intents and purposes the act was not Unconstitutional when it occurred.
originally posted by: jjkenobi
So if it was un-Constitutional and Obama was never President, could he technically run for and accept the office two more times?
It is curious how the oaths are all identical except for Obama's.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: jjkenobi
So if it was un-Constitutional and Obama was never President, could he technically run for and accept the office two more times?
It is curious how the oaths are all identical except for Obama's.
Even Joe Biden's ended with the statement, for repeating, at the end of the Oath -- although the VP Oath is otherwise entirely different from the POTUS.
Neither Oath includes the phrase in the Constitution. Whether or not to include it in the Oath is entirely up to the Oath-taker.
Roberts said he tacked in on AFTER the Oath. As a request for affirmation.
originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Not right, but was cool to read. Lots of effort. s&F
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: jjkenobi
So if it was un-Constitutional and Obama was never President, could he technically run for and accept the office two more times?
It is curious how the oaths are all identical except for Obama's.
Even Joe Biden's ended with the statement, for repeating, at the end of the Oath -- although the VP Oath is otherwise entirely different from the POTUS.
Neither Oath includes the phrase in the Constitution. Whether or not to include it in the Oath is entirely up to the Oath-taker.
Roberts said he tacked in on AFTER the Oath. As a request for affirmation.
Where did Roberts say that he did it as a request for affirmation?
It is actionable.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: jjkenobi
So if it was un-Constitutional and Obama was never President, could he technically run for and accept the office two more times?
It is curious how the oaths are all identical except for Obama's.
Even Joe Biden's ended with the statement, for repeating, at the end of the Oath -- although the VP Oath is otherwise entirely different from the POTUS.
Neither Oath includes the phrase in the Constitution. Whether or not to include it in the Oath is entirely up to the Oath-taker.
Roberts said he tacked in on AFTER the Oath. As a request for affirmation.
Where did Roberts say that he did it as a request for affirmation?
That is self-evident.
To what do you suggest he might have been referring, if not the Oath he just administered?
originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: MotherMayEye
It is actionable.
No, it's not.
When the Supreme Court declares an act Unconstitutional, you can't be retroactively punished for committing that act in the past.
originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: MotherMayEye
And, what if this wild conspiracy theory is true?
Well, it is a bit late to do anything about it.
To what end was this possible conspiracy perpetrated?
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: jjkenobi
So if it was un-Constitutional and Obama was never President, could he technically run for and accept the office two more times?
It is curious how the oaths are all identical except for Obama's.
Even Joe Biden's ended with the statement, for repeating, at the end of the Oath -- although the VP Oath is otherwise entirely different from the POTUS.
Neither Oath includes the phrase in the Constitution. Whether or not to include it in the Oath is entirely up to the Oath-taker.
Roberts said he tacked in on AFTER the Oath. As a request for affirmation.
Where did Roberts say that he did it as a request for affirmation?
That is self-evident.
To what do you suggest he might have been referring, if not the Oath he just administered?
Then that's nothing more than your inference.