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posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 02:52 AM
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This does remind me of Isaac Asimov as in one of his stories he had energy collection stations beaming down but they soon became obsolete.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
Consider spherical highly reflective objects are built & placed in orbit around Moon or Planet to absorb Solar energy?

Then connect them between the planets surface on land and sea with other reflective disc like panels, that are interacting with even yet another array of reflective mobilized technology maybe blimp drones or some other aviation based reflective disc array reflecting in a constant cycle of Solar energy. From space reflective spheres raying onto atmospheric based reflective technologies and them raying energy down to planet surface non stop. As the reflective spherical space based technologies would be orbiting the planet or moon constantly beaming the atmospheric based technologies with condensed solar energy feeding the designated planets surface technology...

NAMASTE*******

Russians tried to use solar mirrors for night time illumination (Znamya project). Astronomers were of course not amused about the idea. The experiments failed, were abandoned.

More recently there have been proposals to use orbital mirrors to reflect sunlight away to control climate.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 06:31 AM
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So you're saying create a system whereby we could Harvest solar energy 24 hours a day rather than just during daylight hours is that what I am to gather from this ?



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 07:35 AM
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a reply to: anotheramethyst
Correction/clarification, no fossil fuel usage similar to how the planet EA*RTH is powered today from coal-natural gas & oil.
They would get into space along with their autonomous maintenance technologies possibly using most "advanced" methods possibly which yes may include current methods (temporarily) or may not at all...



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit


Effective and clear responses to questions asked TrueBrit, thanks


1 is a fanaticizer at times when dreaming, so looks at things generations connected. Felt in possibly 1-1.5 generations if mankind worked as one and put aside the financial and manpower requirements to fund and build collectively intelligently as a species (global science groups) then perhaps the planet can start upgrading instead of refurbishing.
But again 1 tends to paint in fantasies when "dreaming" and optimism drives the paint brushes. And so to me humans building with et building with other et doing advanced masonic building of civilizations together instead of figuring ways to conquer - corner each other (with advanced technologies)? isn't to outta box a possibility considering Galactic Cluster collectives... It's only maturity and logic.
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posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: moebius
Interesting share moebius, thanks


1 considered the space spheres would be made of transparent like technologies. The space spheres would roll (making zig zag patterns) or move in circular motions across - around continents borders more less.
The spherical space based objects would somehow pull solar energy in then amplify it then beaming-sending rays to aviation technologies also made from the same transparent reflective technology and then down to ground based fields which feed power to civilization. Ground base towers interlinking globally generate free energy in all remote areas...



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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originally posted by: HarryJoy
So you're saying create a system whereby we could Harvest solar energy 24 hours a day rather than just during daylight hours is that what I am to gather from this ?

Absolutely



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 08:48 AM
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Your [borrowed] concept seems to want to direct light to the surface from spheres in a global "midnight sun" scenario. As another poster said, unless the light is coherent or focused, you won't get what you expect. There was an ill-thought-out plan to beam microwaves to earth from space as a power source. A small error would result in a multi megawatt beam wandering around the surface cooking things. Focused beams have the same problem as the microwave plan only now a light beam could wander cooking things.
We already have a planet sized collector of solar energy. Why would a few aluminized bubbles make much of a difference? If you want 24 hour per day solar power, install ground stations around the world and link them. Be ready to condition all that power to match the grid power while transitioning. You could also link up wind, tidal, and wave power stations along with a few underwater turbines in areas of constant currents like the Straits of Florida.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: pteridine
Your input for other energy forms is appreciated...

Also this idea was not borrowed?
It's understood if there is doubt in 1z intelligence to produce this original idea but it is not borrowed. Could be channeled
however.

The idea is to use the space based spherical objects with say convex and concave lensing components on the exterior and interior of them.
Use the lens technology to basically magnify the solar energy entering the spherical object and then focus the magnified energy rays to intercept reflective atmospheric based floating, flying & or gliding blimp drone/dish like/wing like equipment that is geo coordinated with the space technology.

Once rays enter the atmospheric mobil technologies from space based technology they are again amplified with more lens magnifying reflective technology and directed to planet surface receiver technology.
And instead of wasting any energy keep cycling it from space to atmospheric to surface and back up, recharging all components indefinitely...



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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The larger global tower system will feed solar power to aviation, land and sea transportation panel retrofitted or designed and other building structures requiring powered.
And again will feed power to remote areas for free also.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: pteridine
Your input for other energy forms is appreciated...

Also this idea was not borrowed?
It's understood if there is doubt in 1z intelligence to produce this original idea but it is not borrowed. Could be channeled
however.

The idea is to use the space based spherical objects with say convex and concave lensing components on the exterior and interior of them.
Use the lens technology to basically magnify the solar energy entering the spherical object and then focus the magnified energy rays to intercept reflective atmospheric based floating, flying & or gliding blimp drone/dish like/wing like equipment that is geo coordinated with the space technology.

Once rays enter the atmospheric mobil technologies from space based technology they are again amplified with more lens magnifying reflective technology and directed to planet surface receiver technology.
And instead of wasting any energy keep cycling it from space to atmospheric to surface and back up, recharging all components indefinitely...



So you have convex and concave lens components in a sphere of some size and you would beam sunlight to the surface for conversion into electric power. Wouldn't the extra sunlight also warm the earth? What size do the spheres have to be to make it worthwhile and where would they be in orbit?



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: pteridine
The locations of the space spherical objects to reiterate would be assigned per continent. One or more depending on the power requirements of said continent.
The sizes could vary depending on power requirements. But the specifications could be engineered with existing EA*RTH based scientific groups, especially if allowed to work together no matter nation they represent. Thus increasing the building intelligence from minds across the globe. It is a potential power system for future generations on this planet and on other planets or moons...
Extra sunlight again the same engineering teams would be doing civil engineering and so can problem solve these issues before building. Sort of like building box like structures beneath nuclear power plants before the planet is assembled. Protecting the environment incase there was melt down or damage and having a pre-designed lid structure already built that can mechanically or manually cover said melt down site...
So again the specifications data would be generated from groups of engineers from around the world working together to build them and the system.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: pteridine
We already have a planet sized collector of solar energy. Why would a few aluminized bubbles make much of a difference?
It would make global warming worse. We already have too much heat gain not offset by enough heat loss, so if more sunlight is beamed to the planet from space, it will only accelerate global warming.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: pteridine
The locations of the space spherical objects to reiterate would be assigned per continent. One or more depending on the power requirements of said continent.
The sizes could vary depending on power requirements. But the specifications could be engineered with existing EA*RTH based scientific groups, especially if allowed to work together no matter nation they represent. Thus increasing the building intelligence from minds across the globe. It is a potential power system for future generations on this planet and on other planets or moons...
Extra sunlight again the same engineering teams would be doing civil engineering and so can problem solve these issues before building. Sort of like building box like structures beneath nuclear power plants before the planet is assembled. Protecting the environment incase there was melt down or damage and having a pre-designed lid structure already built that can mechanically or manually cover said melt down site...
So again the specifications data would be generated from groups of engineers from around the world working together to build them and the system.



You have no idea how big these would be or what they would be made of. You don't know how they would be constructed in space. You don't have a design for them. You don't know how far from earth they would be placed. You don't know how the beams would be controlled and how powerful they would be. You don't know if they would heat the earth with extra sunlight but assume that this has a ready solution.
What you have is an idea that is not well thought out. The Devil is in the details and 'big picture' people that can't solve problems in detail are generally worthless. Work out the details and repost.
edit on 10/10/2016 by pteridine because: ETA



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

All details have been provided. As stated it will take a global team of engineers to work out the specifications, but feel free to debate



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: pteridine

All details have been provided. As stated it will take a global team of engineers to work out the specifications, but feel free to debate


Actually, no details have been provided.

To further complicate the system, you wrote: "Then connect them between the planets surface on land and sea with other reflective disc like panels, that are interacting with even yet another array of reflective mobilized technology maybe blimp drones or some other aviation based reflective disc array reflecting in a constant cycle of Solar energy."

Multiple links, some of which are moving, sending energetic light beams around the planet. What could possibly go wrong?

After you were done overheating the planet with this, how would you cool it back down?

ETA: www.space.com...
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posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: pteridine
Basically visualize large open petals floating in the atmosphere.
They are transparent. In disc shape like open flower petals, with movements from convex to concave to flat.
They feed solar power as they glide over cities retrofitted or built with solar energy collection devices...
The land or sea towers would be interacting with them, beaming power globally in safe areas to feed power everywhere.
You don't have to run them to the point of increasing planet temperatures. Again the minds of the world are building this, so the planets temperature is also a engineered factor. Your compassion even though hidden is detected, and 1 isn't seeking to warm the planet or cause harm to EA*RTH, sharing alternative power methods to some who MAY understand more but cannot elaborate but CAN possibility take the rough design data communicated and fine tune with their intelligences.
Your questions are welcome

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posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13
What is the size of the collectors? How much light will be beamed to Earth?



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: pteridine
Light beamed to planet equivalent to Sol light exposure on opposite side of planet that is lit.
Allows continuous illumination Solar energy from day thru night and back to day...
Sizes of collectors, based on materials used to build them.
There is transparent aluminum, but 1 thinks better technology exist (more lite weight & reflective) that can be utilized.



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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en.m.wikipedia.org...


Aluminium oxynitride or AlON is a ceramic composed of aluminium, oxygen and nitrogen. It is marketed under the name ALON by Surmet Corporation.[3] AlON is optically transparent (≥80%) in the near-ultraviolet, visible and midwave-infrared regions of the electromagnetic spectrum. It is 4 times harder than fused silica glass, 85% as hard as sapphire, and nearly 15% harder than magnesium aluminate spinel. Since it has a cubic spinel structure, it can be fabricated to transparent windows, plates, domes, rods, tubes and other forms using conventional ceramic powder processing techniques. AlON is the hardest polycrystalline transparent ceramic available commercially.[2] Combination of optical and mechanical properties makes this material a leading candidate for lightweight high-performance transparent armor applications such as bulletproof and blast-resistant windows and for many military infrared optics. AlON-based armor has been shown to stop multiple armor-piercing projectiles of up to 50 cal.[4] It is commercially available in sizes as big as 18x35-inch monolithic

For example of lens holding materials and or lenses.
Considering other more advanced materials then this.



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