Hillary Clinton Selects Tim Kaine, a Centrist Senator From a Swing State, as Running Mate

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: supremecommander

Trump loves the uneducated.

So does Hillary, and her new VP selection.

In fact, I bet Hillary has many plans to keep the uneducated as uneducated as possible and create more.

oh, make no mistake. Of course clinton loves the uneducated.

Clinton goes for the uneducated minority vote, trump goes for the uneducated whites.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

the common enemy of the american people is clear to me, how about you?

a reply to: xuenchen

You know what my theory has been all along. I abandoned it after Bernie endorsed Hillary but I did notice that Bernie did not suspend his campaign or 'drop out.'

I'm all a-flutter realizing that Tim Kaine happened to go on the record as saying he supported Bernie's proposed rule change to the superdelgate system.

Choosing him really gives Hillary no leg to stand on in trying to argue against the proposed change.

It's nutty that she would choose him!

Given Hillary's low poll numbers and Sanders' great polling against Trump, you have to imagine a brokered convention debate among the delegates. For the good of the party and it's chances in November, they would have to go with Bernie in some significant numbers.

Gah! I am all a-flutter I tell you!

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Yes your original theory made sense, and still does.

Lots of things can happen in short periods of time.

originally posted by: neo96
News flash the current guy went to Harvard, and without a teleprompter is a just bubbling idiot.

The previous one went to Yale, before that was Georgetown and Oxford.

What's wrong with going to a good school? That's where people make connections that make them successful.

originally posted by: Tardacus
Her pandering to minorities is so transparent i`m surprised She didn`t pick a black person for her VP?

It's somewhat surprising that she didn't pick

a
--black
--gay
--male
--married to two lovers, and his transvestite sister and his gay dog;
--who is a part time Rastafarian Jihadi and who
--has a full time job pole dancing
--with a boa chronically around his neck and
--who is a warlock at every local full moon ceremony and
--a major figure in the atheist anti-Christian movement.

= = =

ETA: Oh, alright.

I confess . . . I was being slightly absurd and silly. Just slightly. LOLOLOL.

Once again I really dont understand the logic of some people here.

This was a strategic move, and a good one.

Hillary already has all the Dem. votes. No self respecting liberal or Dem. would ever justify voting for Trump.

She doesnt have to worry about the Sanders supporters either, shes gotten Sanders endorsement, and the stragglers will eventually jump on board once the real "vote against trump" campaign gets started.

This "centrist" selection is aimed at republicans who dont like and dont want to vote for Trump, and there are plentt of those, some republicans have already admitted theyre voting Clinton.

Despite what the current polls say, Hillary will win in a landslide. Modern day America will never let a fatcat chauvenist bigoted billionaire with no political or forein relations experience reach the whitehouse. As absent minded as our citizens are.. we arent collectively that ignorant.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: xuenchen
He is considered a "centrist" but lets see what he says during the convention next week.

A centrist is a poor choice if Hillary wants to bring Bernie voters into the fold. That's just my first reaction.

I think the surge of Trump over the last month and the RNC convention forced her hand. She is going to have to move away from the left to try and complete for independents.

bad timing on her part though, or just unlucky with the news cycle full of Munich and also wikileaks revealing her vetting of Politco stories.

Ok, let me put it this way -- stay with me, you may enjoy this:

Hillary has not locked up the nomination contrary to popular opinion.

Hillary has 2,205 pledged delegates and needs 2,383 to lock up the nomination on the first roll call at the convention (based only on pledged delegates).

Bernie is going into the convention to argue the superdelegate rules be changed. The goal is to do away with all the superdelegates and he has gathered some significant support for that cause (*note the bolded):

Politico interviewed nearly 20 of Sanders’ colleagues over the past week and found a surprisingly strong appetite for change, including among influential members of the party establishment such as Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), a top prospect for vice president. More than half the senators surveyed support at least lowering the number of superdelegates, and all but two said the party should take up the matter at next month’s convention in Philadelphia, despite the potential for a high-profile intraparty feud at a critical moment in the campaign.

Link

*ahem* Hillary's VP choice supports Bernie's rule change.

Bernie has also made it clear that he will allow a full traditional roll call. IF the rules do change and no superdelegate votes are counted, then Hillary does NOT have enough votes to win on the first round.

Now, Bernie has said he may stop the voting before the second delegate vote and declare Hillary the winner by Acclamation, but he has also left it open. One thing is for sure, he will allow a full traditional first roll call.

And...if he does allow a second roll call, ALL of the pledged delegates will be released to vote for the candidate of their choosing.

So, is Tim Kaine a wise choice?

I don't think he is, but it really remains to be seen, eh?

I do hope you are right - Bernie would be so much better than Hillary. I say that as someone wanting Trump to win and knowing he would have no chance against Bernie, but I just can't stand the thought of Hillary Clinton being close to the leadership of the western world. The devil will have taken the throne of humanity if that happens.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Not much charisma, unsure how he ever got so far politically except by being a good party yes-man.

Probably because he cozies up to all of Hills buds at the CFR, although I don't think he's an actual member, just gives speeches there.



www.cfr.org...

Tim Kaine is hardcore Establishment and for a race since the very beginning about anti-Establishment, Kaine was a god awful pick for Hillary. I bet this will cause her to LOSE votes, especially a lot of Bernie votes. Picking Kaine might be good for Trump too, because Kaine is for a lot of stuff that Trump is strongly against, like NAFTA and many others. If nothing else, any fence sitters deciding between Hillary and Trump, might be a lot more enticed to go ahead and vote for Trump now.

This was a safe boring pick for Hillary. She didn't want to pick anyone that would up-stage her or steal her shine. Is she trying to lose this election? Because if she had picked Sanders or Warren, the Dems would run away with this election. But with Kaine? This is anyone's ball game folks.

a reply to: -Blackout-

DELEGATES: CLINTON VP PICK SOLID, MAY NOT HELP DEM UNITY

Dwight Bullard, a Florida state senator, said not one of the 70-plus Sanders delegates in his state including himself is happy with Kaine's selection. He worried that the centrist choice could magnify progressives' view that Clinton will backtrack on issues important to them, such as climate change and tuition aid for college students.

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Tim Kaine reeks of a "Yes Man". This dude has zero charisma or leadership traits that I have seen. He is also an extremely boring speaker. At least Mike Pence shows some fire in his belly when he gives a speech.

5 things to know about Mike Pence ?

Hes not Clinton.

Hes not Kaine.

Hes not Cruz.

Hes not Kaisch.

Hes got my vote.

originally posted by: -Blackout-
Tim Kaine reeks of a "Yes Man". This dude has zero charisma or leadership traits that I have seen. He is also an extremely boring speaker. At least Mike Pence shows some fire in his belly when he gives a speech.

He is a yes man - to big banks and globalists pushing TPP.
He is about as far removed from Bernie Sanders as you can get - a lot of delegates are going to have to give up all their principals this coming week...

a reply to: Bone75

After "who?", that was my next thought.

'course that's par for the course when it comes to Presidential candidate VP choices. Especially when they're replacing a two term incumbent.

a reply to: neo96

As an Indiana resident I cant believe someone would vote for Trump because of a Pence VP pick. The only good thing he has done is get picked by Trump so he cant run for re-election.

a reply to: xuenchen


Note to American Citizens: If you want to pay more in taxes, and are thrilled that the U.S. government will have more control over your life as a result, the Clinton-Kaine ticket will make you VERY happy.

Clinton VP Pick Tim Kaine’s Islamist Ties
www.breitbart.com...

a reply to: xuenchen

Tim Kaine , More Exciting than a Mayonnaise Sandwich of White Bread . Oh Yeah , I really gotta Vote Dem . Now ............

a reply to: xuenchen

He's not a centrist he's almost to the right odd choice. And we'll he wants to get the US into another war in the middle east and that's a tough sell.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: xuenchen

He's not a centrist he's almost to the right odd choice. And we'll he wants to get the US into another war in the middle east and that's a tough sell.

Hillary has basically screwed Bernie and selected Kaine to try and get some Republican voters and independents.
It's about political expediency and personal power for Hillary and it will always be that way.