LGBT Activist Group Stages ‘Die-In’ Outside Trump Tower

a reply to: Annee

I apologize, I misread an undertone because of your wording and bluntness. You'd be surprised how many people try to use "You're not allowed to have an opinion on this" as an actual response to criticism of protest and activism tactics.

Go Tony Perkins!
Yes this is 1984 on steroids.

dbl post

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Not sure if serious.

None taken.

Probably serious... I would think .... Right now theDemocrats have co opted Islam for their own ideological programming and manipulation of society to the ends of their party which veers definitely leftward into socialism/communism/totalitarianism. And it works because Muslims accepted it.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Islam and Christianity are both anti-LGBT, it's true. And while quantitatively, the radical Muslims are more extreme in their actions against LGBT around the world

Actually it's pretty equal. 'Christians' outside of the West or from the West but doing missionary work very much advocate for and pass laws that make being gay or trans a crime punishable by death.

Op-Ed LA Times

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: stinkelbaum

Trump is courting the religious right now. He's speaking with evangelicals and religious leaders, using all the proper dog whistles to let them know he supports their views. Yesterday, he met with...

... over 400 of the most bigoted, most homophobic and most influential anti-LGBT advocates in the United States — from Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins to James Dobson, founder of the Focus on the Family — the bedrock of the religious right, which has been a prominent part of the base of the Republican Party for decades.

Source

Trump is Proving How Dangerous He is to the LGBT Community

Donald Trump is proving that he very much will be a force against LGBT equality if elected president. And he’s doing it in a more insidious, under-the-radar way than any previous GOP presidential nominee.

Though he rarely raises his positions against LGBT rights on the campaign trail, Trump is making pacts with anti-LGBT forces. Today, Trump spoke at the Road to the Majority summit in Washington, an event attended by Christian right activists and sponsored by the Faith and Freedom Coalition and Concerned Women for America, both of which fight against LGBT rights. “I’m with you 100 percent,” he said, and, knowing the event was televised live on the cable networks, he spoke with a dog whistle on LGBT rights, alluding to attacks on “marriage and family” and championing “religious freedom,” which of course has been the term used by evangelicals to deny LGBT people of rights.

And people wonder why they protest him????

Oh cnn I turned that off permanently when olberman slobbered his endorsement of obamacare over his dying dad in the hospital. Cnn swayed far leftward in my opinion.

If anyone wants to know what the protest was actually about, instead of snide partisan innuendos and absolute zero-content posts ...

Tony Perkins Quotes - GLAAD

This is the individual that Trump was kissing up to (in the midst of kissing up to all the other American Religious Right icons).

-- Claims LGBT activists are going to "start rolling out the boxcars" and carting away Christians (a reference to the Holocaust)

-- Claims gay parents ''provide distorted values to innocent adopted kids"

-- Lumps together Aurora shooting, kidnapping, and openly gay soldiers as three examples of a "nation gone under"

-- Despite what health experts have said, insists that pedophilia is “a homosexual problem.”

-- The Family Research Council has distributed a pamphlet that claims gay men are more likely to molest children, and supports "reorientation therapy" for gay people

-- The Family Research Council has distributed a pamphlet that begins by likening the logic behind same-sex marriage to the logic behind man-horse marriage (complete with horse graphic)

-- Paid $82,500 to use the phone bank of former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke for an election run-off.

-- Claims Uganda bill (with death penalty attached) simply "upholds moral conduct"

-- Says the Ten Commandments should be the law of the land

Etc. etc. etc.

Why are LGBT rights a discussion during the election? How about child poverty in America? The elderly not getting enough care. Vets committing suicide? The education system? Violence in Chicago? Unemployment of inner city youth.

What world impact does a candidate not discussing LGBT rights have? NONE.

It is a fringe issue. It is done for exposure of their own agenda and as always one speaks for the many.

Did the economy get better after legalizing gay marriage?

originally posted by: BlueAjah

originally posted by: TheBulk
... I'm so tired of this alternate reality, Running Man level manipulation of reality.
...

That is the most accurate description of current events that I have seen so far.

It's so bizarre. It's as if some hallucinogenic is being pumped into our water causing people to be so easily manipulated that they no longer know what reality is. No matter what happens in real life, the media and PTB put their own spin on it, and get some sheep to act on their word, no matter what is really going on.

It seems to happen with Trump all the time. No matter what he says or does, it gets spun beyond belief. Things like - blaming Trump because someone tried to shoot him. (and thousands of other examples)

But it's not only with Trump. What in the world is going on? It's actually scary. Are Common Core and liberal-indoctrination schools and colleges creating generations of people who don't know how to reason?

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Common core is at least second or third generation indoctrination in the reeducation camps we call the public school system. I'm sure Glenn becks book agenda 22 is not to much in the far off distance

Ia reply to: TheBulk

I know right. Hilary received $20 mill from Saudi Arabia. A country that hates on gays yet she doesn't get protested by the gay community. Makes no sense.

originally posted by: matafuchs
Why are LGBT rights a discussion during the election? How about child poverty in America? The elderly not getting enough care. Vets committing suicide? The education system? Violence in Chicago? Unemployment of inner city youth.

What world impact does a candidate not discussing LGBT rights have? NONE.

It is a fringe issue. It is done for exposure of their own agenda and as always one speaks for the many.

Did the economy get better after legalizing gay marriage?

Talk to your man Trump.

He's the one bragging about how much "the gays" love him.

a reply to: Gryphon66

All candidates do it and it is in response to things like this. If you don't address it you hate gay rights and if you do it is pandering.

I am all for gay marriage. Let them pay for weddings and divorces. Could care less but his time, protesting as he does, would be better spent volunteering somewhere and making a difference in a real way.

#TRUMPLOVESGAYSBUSHHATESBLACKS

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Gryphon66

All candidates do it and it is in response to things like this. If you don't address it you hate gay rights and if you do it is pandering.

I am all for gay marriage. Let them pay for weddings and divorces. Could care less but his time, protesting as he does, would be better spent volunteering somewhere and making a difference in a real way.

#TRUMPLOVESGAYSBUSHHATESBLACKS

... but it doesn't upset you at all that he's (Trump) spent a heck of lot more time kow-towing to the Religious Right?

Talk about an politically-active, freedom-hating, Constitution-trampling constituency.

Incredible.

Trump represents the party that has done everything in their power to deny these people rights and you act surprised?

a reply to: Ohanka

Of course they are not going to starve themselves that would be too pious. They just use that terminology to sound dire.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I do not agree with the religious left, nor the religious right. I also think he opened dialogue but he certainly is not doing their bidding. Talking to people to see if they are on board is one thing. Just like ProLife/ProChoice. I do not care what the candidates believes but it will not be addressed and does not affect the country.

I do not really look at associations with what I consider the 'fringe'. I am looking for someone who I feel will do something for the people and with the two choices, Trump is the clear winner based on issues that will affect our country as a whole.

a reply to: shredderofsouls

I think you need to read some history books....It is the opposite way....

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Gryphon66

I do not agree with the religious left, nor the religious right. I also think he opened dialogue but he certainly is not doing their bidding. Talking to people to see if they are on board is one thing. Just like ProLife/ProChoice. I do not care what the candidates believes but it will not be addressed and does not affect the country.

I do not really look at associations with what I consider the 'fringe'. I am looking for someone who I feel will do something for the people and with the two choices, Trump is the clear winner based on issues that will affect our country as a whole.

Trump is Surrounding Himself with Evangelical Pastors

James Dobson. Richard Land. Ralph Reed. The ’90s are back in Trumpland, and the old-guard religious right is making its return. After Trump spoke at a meeting of more than 1,000 evangelicals and some Catholics on Tuesday, his campaign announced his appointment of an “evangelical executive advisory board” to lead a larger “Faith and Cultural Advisory Committee” that will be announced later in June.

The list reads like a who’s who of conservative Christian leaders. Ronnie Floyd just ended his term as president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Jerry Falwell Jr. heads Liberty University. Reed and Dobson each founded highly influential Christian lobbying groups—the Faith and Freedom Coalition and Focus on the Family, respectively. Many of these figures are household-names among Christian families in America, having either started or inherited empire-sized talk-radio networks and organizations.

Come on Matafuchs.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Seriously. This is what I get out of the article...in this blurb

After Trump spoke at a meeting of more than 1,000 evangelicals and some Catholics on Tuesday, his campaign announced his appointment of an “evangelical executive advisory board” to lead a larger “Faith and Cultural Advisory Committee” that will be announced later in June.

So he is explaining to people who support him that they can have a committee for their core beliefs. He is not saying I will pass legislation or making promises. I guess that to me is the difference. He is saying he will listen and does not want them to lose the liberties then have now.

Would I join this panel, no, because I do not agree. However, you do not have to agree with everyone. Someone once said to me...

I want us to be able to PASSIONATELY defend what we believe is right ... but at the end of the day, we seem to have forgotten how to come back together, work together, and get things done.

I feel that he is working with multiple groups to see how we can work as a country to get things done and not be chastised as a citizen when you speak up.

In the case of Hillary, she simply says I will do what you want me to do if you give money to the Clinton Foundation. I feel that she divides the country more than Trump ever has or will.

a reply to: matafuchs

You know that you're grossly misrepresenting anything Clinton has ever said, but that's not the debate here, and I'm usually far away from approving of Mrs. Clinton's politics (although I'm warming up in some ways.)

If you can state with a clear conscience that you don't see Trump desperately pandering to the Religious Right particularly in the events of yesterday ... we will have to agree to disagree.