Sanders and Trump similarities. A thought Should Sanders be robbed of his nomination.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: tadaman

If you really believe that Sanders and Trump have so much in common then why would you choose to vote for the guy who part the "donor class?" The guy appealing to the very worst impulses in people to get himself elected?

They are both the subject of ridicule and an all out media blitz by MSM and the bilderbergers who own it. They have in essence declared war on them both.

Not the dreaded Bilderbergers/Illuminati that OWN the Earth (you said it). They are not the subject of ridicule. The system has FLAWS and like it or not they stepped into the Center Ring. Let me tell you this; you do not have to believe yourself to be the Circus Owner or the Monkey Trainer. You have no control; if the elephants go rouge in the center ring and trample the audience it is not your concern (as you will not have bought the ringside tickets) just sold them to some shills.

theantidiluvian: He brings the ridicule on himself. He's been ridiculed in the media for decades because he's crass, lacks self-awareness and involves himself in ridiculous things, brings frivolous lawsuits and gets into feuds with comedians because he isn't man enough to shrug off jokes. All reality TV stars are wide open to ridicule as far as I'm concerned. He's a Kardashian of crony capitalism.

Of course; he is billionaire with an ego. What politician does not have a supersized over the top grandiose self inflated ego? That seems to me would be the first question on the resume. ARE YOU FULL OF YOURSELF and prove it with a P and L statement that shows you are in the black (major profit).

a reply to: CrazyWater

He is not. He supports states rights and a strict interpretation of the constitution.

you dont know what you are talking about.

you base this all on his stance to non US citizens.

I cant go to other countries and enjoy the freedoms their citizens do, and that doesnt mean the government there is authoritarian.

a reply to: CrazyWater

This is the wrong tree to bark up.

There is countless evidence now that the only violence at Trump rallies comes from opposition and not those peacefully assembled

LOL

Robbed? I'd wrather rob him, than he "rob" me. I don't give a F what your socialist a** needs. You can't honestly put Sander's and Trump in the same corral. Some horses are meant to make glue and gloves. Just so you know..them's the rejects....

a reply to: murphy22

no one said he was a socialist.

both are libertarian VS being authoritarian

one left , one right

www.politicalcompass.org...

here take a test and see what you are.

I dont think you know.

originally posted by: murphy22
Robbed? I'd wrather rob him, than he "rob" me. I don't give a F what your socialist a** needs. You can't honestly put Sander's and Trump in the same corral. Some horses are meant to make glue and gloves. Just so you know..them's the rejects....

Of course you can (use your imagination) they are both the best extremes of Libertarianism. Practice, say the word "Libertarian" rolls off the tongue like caramel on vanilla ice cream. In my world; a Trump/Sanders ticket would be ideal as describes (FIXES) the disconnect/distrust voters have come to believe regarding the trustworthiness of both Democratic and Republican parties.

a reply to: tadaman

He wants to curb immigration like Sanders a wall is a method to that end but he is all for immigration reform like sanders

Everyone wants to "reform immigration." Trump (says) he wants to build a wall and round up and deport every illegal immigrant in the country. Sure, essentially the same thing that Sanders is saying. Are you kidding me?

He is destroying tariffs on US goods

Uh what? Are you even paying attention to what you're saying or have you gone into Trump mode?

Firstly, the President doesn't change tariffs. Are you buying into Trump's own misunderstanding of the scope of presidential authority? Secondly, the President sure as hell doesn't change import tariffs of other countries. He's made some promises about "bringing China to the table" and negotiating more favorable tariffs. That's not some new idea let alone "destroying tariffs." That's empty rhetoric.

He wants to dismantle domestic spying, like the patriot act makes possible by targeting US citizens. Where do you even get all this from?

Quotes from MSM taken out of context to set a narrative?

why not just go to his campaign website and review his platform?

This is absurd.

I've read his entire platform. I've got his website open in another tab right now. There's nothing on the Issues page and there's nothing on the Positions page about domestic spying.

How about instead of making a bunch of unsubstantiated statements about "what Trump wants" (really?) you back some of this up starting with any evidence of Trump saying that he wants to dismantle domestic spying? Because you can't because he doesn't want to. What's absurd is that you're spending all this time promoting Donald Trump to people and either you don't know his positions or you know them and you're being intentionally deceptive.

a reply to: tadaman

He is not. He supports states rights and a strict interpretation of the constitution.

Really please tell me anything hes said that illustrates this.

you dont know what you are talking about.

Ive yet to see you dispute anything I have with proof, although I have , and so has he by how he conducts himself, advocating for violence against protesters is NOT pro constitution, its pro silencing opposition, an authoritarian concept.

you base this all on his stance to non US citizens.

No I didnt, I went off what he said, which was "target terrorists families" :
1. Which means American Citizens would be targetted because we have home grown terrorists
2. Which is against the geneva convention, and would cause MORE war targeting people in other countries who have committed no crimes. How is that Libertarian? Rand and Ron Paul would disagree greatly on that premise

I cant go to other countries and enjoy the freedoms their citizens do, and that doesnt mean the government there is authoritarian.

Um, have you been out of the country? Yes you can, I have traveled to 8 Different countries other than the United States 3 of them on a regular basis at least once a year.

You sir are the one who has no idea what you are talking about, youre just parroting Trump talking points

a reply to: tadaman

BTW Roger Stone is a HIGHLY respected opposition researcher and long time political strategist. You are alone in dismissing him. He is a gold standard and not any ones lobbyist

you made that up, since you know nothing about him.

I'm not going to accuse you of anything but let me ask you a sincere question. Are you now or have you ever been paid to convince people to support a candidate in the US Presidential election?

a reply to: theantediluvian

Lets not forget this is not true :

He is destroying tariffs on US goods

Trump has repeatedly stated he wants to INCREASE tariffs against other countries

Anyone who is a student of history would realize this was one major factor that brought about the great depression.


Trump supporters need to get their facts straight and learn some history. And while they are at it, actually listen to what hes saying and not what they want to hear.

Oh wait they are, its just that he says one thing one minute then another 5 min later

a reply to: Hazardous1408

Trump voters in all good consciousness, could not vote for a Communist like Sanders considering we live in a Democratic Republic based on Capitalism .

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: CrazyWater

This is the wrong tree to bark up.

There is countless evidence now that the only violence at Trump rallies comes from opposition and not those peacefully assembled

LOL

So youre saying that all those Trump supporters, including his own security who committed phsyical violence against people were ........

Plants?

Really? Youre going to go with that? Youre talking out your butt, I dont think you even keep up with current events or what Trump sas or thinks, or even the actual facts of things.

I think youre a supporter who just makes it up as he goes along, Just like Trump.

You have proven that by mis quoting things hes said .

a reply to: theantediluvian

He wants to make the patriot act do what it was supposed to do. TARGET OUTSIDE SOURCES.

Currently it targets Americans on INTERNAL communications.

It is not supposed to do that, something that has been pushed by Obama.

If it was designed to target EXTERNAL communications into and out of the US it would be true to its purpose.

That is not the case.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: tadaman

BTW Roger Stone is a HIGHLY respected opposition researcher and long time political strategist. You are alone in dismissing him. He is a gold standard and not any ones lobbyist

you made that up, since you know nothing about him.

I'm not going to accuse you of anything but let me ask you a sincere question. Are you now or have you ever been paid to convince people to support a candidate in the US Presidential election?

I know who you are now; you were the head of the S&H green stamp program (you have strange questions).

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: tadaman

BTW Roger Stone is a HIGHLY respected opposition researcher and long time political strategist. You are alone in dismissing him. He is a gold standard and not any ones lobbyist

you made that up, since you know nothing about him.

I'm not going to accuse you of anything but let me ask you a sincere question. Are you now or have you ever been paid to convince people to support a candidate in the US Presidential election?

The funniest part of it all is the OP sincerely belives that Sanders and Trump have the same position on Immigration.

a reply to: CrazyWater

What?

Dude, the overwhelming testimonials are that Trump supporters were patient and peaceful in the vast majority.

a reply to: muse7

They want to curb illegal immigration to favor US wages.

You are grossly misinformed.

Prove otherwise. Side by side

a reply to: muse7

Mr. Trump is a Capitalist , Mr. Sanders is a Communist , how are they in Any Way Alike ?

a reply to: tadaman

Again, please back this up with something other than you saying that's what Trump wants to do. There's no shortage of Donald Trump talking. His campaign does make statement to the press. His Twitter account is active. He's got a website with sections for stating these positions.

Where' the P-R-O-O-F of what you're saying?

I can continue posting quotes of him saying nothing even remotely like what you're attributing to him and you can keep trying to promote the narrative that Trump is being taken out of context in the mean time.

Washington Times

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump said he’d be OK with restoring the post-9/11 Patriot Act and that he errs “on the side of security” in the ongoing debate over the NSA’s phone-snooping program. “Well, I tend to err on the side of security, I must tell you,” Mr. Trump said this week on radio host Hugh Hewitt’s show. “And I’ve been there for longer than you would think, but when you have people that are beheading [you] if you’re a Christian and, frankly, for lots of other reasons, when you have the world looking at us and would like to destroy us as quickly as possible, I err on the side of security.”

“And so, you know, that’s the way it is. That’s the way I’ve been. And some people like that, frankly, and some people don’t like that,” he said. Beginning this past Sunday, the government had to stop the bulk collection of Americans’ phone data under Section 215 of the Patriot Act after Congress passed the USA Freedom Act earlier this year. “And I’m not just saying that since Paris — I’m saying for some time,” Mr. Trump said. “I assume when I pick up my telephone, people are listening to my conversations anyway, you want to know the truth. It’s pretty sad commentary. But I err on the side of security.”