Black students advocate for white genocide/suicide during Harvard debate

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: TheBulk
Apparently there is a full video which has no been taken down. The guys who uploaded the video posted this picture of people discussing how to get the full video taken down.

Image: i.imgur.com...

All the comments are referring to the Infowars article, while the comment at the bottom could be referring to the original on allegedly on Vimeo, this isn't proof of it.

One of the articles I found while searching for the full videos yields some fun assertions.

“The black debaters simply ‘chose’ to point out their opponents’ skin color and begin advocating genocide,” reported InvestmentWatchdogBlog.com. “They expressly stated that these were their ‘sincere beliefs,’ not just an argument to win a debate.”

Someone supposedly found and interviewed the debaters featured but they're the only ones and have no evidence their own reported statement was ever said.

I'm with you on that. There is very little information and that does raise a flag. However, what is said in this video is said and that guy is confirmed as part of the UWG debate team. Besides that, his body language and demeanor just ooze hatred. I dont see what added context would change any of that.

Don't get me wrong, he sounds like a real winner, but if it's 3 years old, why is it coming up now.

a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

In my opinion Drugs would have to be legalized in the countries that produce them in order for it to be considered a victimless situation. I'm sure we could handle the production ourselves and that would also remedy the problem. Just remember to look for the made in the USA stamp.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Let me guess, you were obsessed with a black chick and she just wasn't that into you?

No, I attended a black heritage festival event at my college where I was told by the speaker (after shaking his hand at his request), "you see I can shake his hand now, but when the time comes I will spill his blood!". Even more shocking to me was the crowd of black students cheering it on. That's a problem that needs addressed.

This would probably be more meaningful if it wasn't some super edited video on YouTube

I'm with you, but what context do you think would make arguing so coldly in favor of racial genocide an an acceptable thing?

with a wholly inaccurate title

The only inaccuracy is that the event was only allegedly sponsored by Harvard.

posted to ATS by a guy with a race baiting agenda.

How is exposing a trend of main stream racism that some don't like to discuss "race baiting"?

We get it, you hate black people.

No, I don't. I do not judge or hate people based on their melanin count. I suppose you think critics of Islam are racist or "Islamophobic"?

Maybe this kid hates white people. Maybe you two should go do your thing and stop trying to incite racial animosity.

If you consider this "inciting racial animosity", I wonder what you think of the never ending specter of white on minority racism.

originally posted by: DexterRiley

With respect to these black students advocating genocide/suicide of white people, this is ridiculous in the extreme. These statements, when interpreted without the necessary context, should have been cause enough for the debate to be forfeited by the offending team.

-dex

What context would make white genocide acceptable to you?

originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: TheBulk

These are Harvard students?

If so that is messed up!

No. The black student is from University of Western Georgia. I provides a link in the OP. This event was allegedly sponsored by Harvard.

a reply to: TheBulk

What context would make white genocide acceptable to you?

In theory, no version of genocide is acceptable. However, with respect to debate about genocide, this debate topic would be an acceptable context:

The advantages and disadvantages of race-based genocide.

-dex

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: TheBulk

You gotta facepalm at how PATHETIC the white SJW's are who extend their hand only to see it slapped away. Reminds me of something that happened to me once.

Let me guess, you were obsessed with a black chick and she just wasn't that into you?

This would probably be more meaningful if it wasn't some super edited video on YouTube with a wholly inaccurate title, posted to ATS by a guy with a race baiting agenda. We get it, you hate black people. Maybe this kid hates white people. Maybe you two should go do your thing and stop trying to incite racial animosity.

Much wow, such relevance.

Hey guys, I found the apologist!!

Super edited video or not, He still said it. We are only seeing the beginning.

all life matters. yeah i said it. come at me bro. im ready to die for my freedom.

updated comments on the youtube video:

twitter.com...

For what it is worth, I sent an email to the president of the University of West Georgia, the school where the two black debaters were studying. His response, in my opinion, is worth sharing so you get the entire context.

Dear Mr. Davis, (this is not the same Davis from the debate team)

I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to email me directly concerning the posting of this video clip. We understand the concern surrounding a video posted this week that includes comments made by two former University of West Georgia debate students. While these students participated in a nationally sanctioned debate event in 2012 representing UWG, their comments, or the comments made in any debate, do not reflect the University’s views or values.

We take diversity and inclusion very seriously. We work hard every day to ensure our students, faculty and staff from all backgrounds feel welcome and valued. Our top priority remains fostering the safest learning environment we can in which students can learn, grow and achieve.

As part of that commitment, UWG will not tolerate or allow comments or behavior that incite prejudice or violence against any individual or group. Any student who engages in such behavior will be investigated under the university’s student code of conduct, resulting in appropriate sanctions.

Comments made during debate training or debate events or theater rehearsals are rare exceptions to this policy. College debate programs operate in a manner similar to laboratories, where events like those depicted in the video are closely controlled and monitored. One team presents a position and the other responds, often using extreme arguments to show that a particular point is illogical.

In the case of the 2012 video, the debate centered on energy policy. The first team argued that white people embracing the location of wind turbines in their neighborhoods would be a way to address criticism that racism is inherent in the movement of white populations from urban areas. The former UWG students countered that argument by claiming that the extreme would not be for white people to locate themselves near wind turbines, but rather for white people to sacrifice themselves to remove racism altogether. The purpose of the statement was to show the absurdity of their opponents’ position.

Unfortunately, the purposefully-edited video posted this week does not capture the complete discussion. It includes less than a minute and a half of a debate that lasted more than an hour and a half. It does not show that the first team injected the element of racism. Ultimately, it focuses solely on the extreme points used by one of the UWG students to counter an argument in a sanctioned debate. When taken out of the context of a competition in which one team commonly uses extreme rhetoric to argue against an opponent’s extreme rhetoric, the scenes from the video are shocking. The fact that the debate was not halted and authorities were not notified shows the controlled environment in which the comments were made.

Again, the students’ comments included in the video do not reflect the values of our university. They do not represent beliefs or doctrines we teach to students.

I sincerely hope that by providing the context in which this video is depicted helps restore your faith in our university and in future generations of leaders.

Sincerely,
Kyle Marrero

Davis'(from the video, the one not doing all the talking) twitter feed is full of some asinine opinions - but nothing calling for the deaths of white people.

Still want to see the full video; if you take Mr. Marrero at his word, the edited video is clearly being used to stir the pot.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TheBulk

If we get rid of all the white people, then the remaining people can start blaming everything that is wrong on the hazel-eyed people.

Then after they are all gone, we can blame everything on the people with shorter ear lobes.

Then after they are all gone, we can blame everything on people with long toes.

Then after they are all gone. . . . . . . .

. . . . . sigh.

Hopefully I'll be long gone before this utopia ever comes about.

Ear lobes?

Wasn't that what the natives on Easter Island fought about?

I am in favor of killing wayward fathers THAT would be MY counter debate.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh get a grip! Can you imagine what the reaction would be if a white person said that!?!

People are getting sick and tired of the double standards and hypocrisy and the hatred and hate speech towards the white ethnicity! Telling concerned people they are silly or stupid for being concerned only makes it worse.

Imagine if white students said this about blacks-and when black people were righteously outraged about such hate speech,they were told to lighten up+take a nice relaxing walk outside??

Ludicrous.Why must hate speech against whites always be dismissed with excuses and made out to be hardly worth discussing even but if a white person does it they suffer social crucifixion,even threats to their lives?!?

This is plain and simple BULL#!!!

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yes it is very clear what it is.

It's a black person advocating white genocide.

But i understand,excuses Must be made. Lest we are seen as racists,for taking issue with the black advocaters of white genocide.Because it is Racist to be outraged when someone advocates the wholesale genocide of a whole ethnicity.Because racism is not racism when it's the White ethnicity's genocide being advocated. If we are concerned about such hatred and hate speech against White people,WE are the racist ones..

Gotcha loud and clear.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Oh so if one is concerned or outaged over hate speech advocating the genocide of all white people-it is because one hates black people. Even if the black person is doing the advocating of white genocide,it is the concerned White person who hates Black people? Jesus the mental gymnastics..pathetic on a scale i have seldom seen.

originally posted by: Raxoxane
a reply to: theantediluvian

Oh so if one is concerned or outaged over hate speech advocating the genocide of all white people-it is because one hates black people. Even if the black person is doing the advocating of white genocide,it is the concerned White person who hates Black people? Jesus the mental gymnastics..pathetic on a scale i have seldom seen.

Learn your place peasant! You must atone for the actions of those long dead, and behaviors you've never displayed!
You must sit quietly and suffer for your white/cis/phobic/whatsit-whosit transgressions because you were born this way!






/s

a reply to: eNumbra

When taken out of the context of a competition in which one team commonly uses extreme rhetoric to argue against an opponent’s extreme rhetori

This is from the president of UWG. He claims that the white students injected race by saying "turbines in white neighborhoods prove they're not racists" and the professor labels that "an extreme position" to which the black students used another "extreme position. I'm sorry, but that's just spin. The two arguments are nowhere near the same.

originally posted by: Raxoxane
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yes it is very clear what it is.

It's a black person advocating white genocide.

But i understand,excuses Must be made. Lest we are seen as racists,for taking issue with the black advocaters of white genocide.Because it is Racist to be outraged when someone advocates the wholesale genocide of a whole ethnicity.Because racism is not racism when it's the White ethnicity's genocide being advocated. If we are concerned about such hatred and hate speech against White people,WE are the racist ones..

Gotcha loud and clear.

Psst. I think the student in question is Latino, but don't let the facts stop a good tirade.

Also, it's an "argument" in a collegiate debate that was recorded three years ago.

Those are facts. Trying to gin this up into some sort of manifesto or activist action is absurd.

It's a college kid in a debate several years ago, being sensationalized by the likes of Alex Jones.

Trying to make this heavily edited video into some sort of political manifesto is ludicrous bordering on buffoonery.

Let them keep it up, everything those haters do increases Trumps vote. People like that are nothing new, I have been listening to that same hatred since the 70s when I was born. Farrakhan and his "killing crackers" speech was hilarious. If that was a white person blacks would be parading to shut him down.

The University President just ADMITTED video is authentic.... Just wanted to remind a few who were skeptical.

originally posted by: Gryphon66



Also, it's an "argument" in a collegiate debate that was recorded three years ago.

Because it happened 3 years ago, that makes it ok? Why are you in here defending a mindset that promotes murdering white people? BLM's leaders have the exact same stance as these guys, although they word it differently. Do you really not think this point of view is widespread?

a reply to: Medicator

Farrakhan is someone I miss, didnt beat around the bush.

He must be nearing death or crippling old age because this is the time in history that he positioned himself for.

Resurgence of Black activism, and Islamic uprisings eveywhere you look!

I think he may realize that ISIS is on a whole other level of fanaticism that his movement never considered