UN Approves Toughest Sanctions on North Korea in 20 Years

Well, will these be a game changer; have we just re-written history here? the article goes on to quote the POTUS,

"The international community, speaking with one voice, has sent Pyongyang a simple message: North Korea must abandon these dangerous programs and choose a better path for its people," President Barack Obama said in a statement.

Will Pyongyang take head at all, or are we just being way to delicate with NK (as is seems we have in the past) . How will this effect us/them moving forward and what will the UN do to enforce these new "Toughest Sanctions on North Korea in 20 Years" ?

The U.N. Security Council unanimously approved the toughest sanctions on North Korea in two decades on Wednesday, reflecting growing anger at Pyongyang's latest nuclear test and rocket launch in defiance of a ban on all nuclear-related activity.



The United States and North Korea's traditional ally China spent seven weeks negotiating the new sanctions, which include mandatory inspections of cargo leaving and entering North Korea by land, sea or air; a ban on all sales or transfers of small arms and light weapons to Pyongyang; and expulsion of diplomats from the North who engage in "illicit activities."

The U.S., its Western allies and Japan pressed for new sanctions that went beyond the North's nuclear and missile programs but China, Pyongyang's neighbor, was reluctant to impose measures that could threaten the stability of North Korea and cause its economy to collapse. Nonetheless, Beijing did agree to several economic measures.

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a reply to: ReadLeader

Sanctioning North Korea even more will only make little Kim hate the west even more

Sanctions obviously don't work, why can world leaders not attempt a different approach of more carrot and less stick, maybe if the West wasn't trying to impose what they deem is the right way to rule a nation, then leaders like Kim wouldn't be so full of hatred and resentment

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: ReadLeader

Sanctioning North Korea even more will only make little Kim hate the west even more

Sanctions obviously don't work, why can world leaders not attempt a different approach of more carrot and less stick, maybe if the West wasn't trying to impose what they deem is the right way to rule a nation, then leaders like Kim wouldn't be so full of hatred and resentment

Theres a simplier way. embargo all food and supplies going into NK. let the people starve and they will take out their leader themselves.

This is one of the instances where state-sanctioned assassination would be a boon to the citizens of North Korea and we should ask China to do it.

a reply to: yuppa

Yes because the people deserve to suffer even more thanks to a combination of the West and the legacy of little kims.

Not to mention, all it would achieve is more hatred, North Korea is like a cult, they're all brainwashed to adore their leaders and their anger would turn towards those who enforce the embargo's

Look at what happened in the Middle East, you go in trying to "save" the people and the majority turn against you and the result is ISIS

Same thing would happen with North Korea

These sanctions in particular will be very effective. Banning ammunition, small arms, aviation fuel, anything that can be converted to military use will make keeping NK's ancient military impossible. And prevents any real cash from getting to North Korea as well. And it include inspecting any at land, air or sea heading for NK. And with Russia and China on board their will be no chance to get around them. Where things going into NK before had to be proved to have a link to the weapons program, the standard has changed to things have be proved to have no possible use. This will cause severe problems for North Korea's military. It will not be able to survive under these sanctions. So the question will be will Kim let lose the dogs or war or cave. As the most important think to Kim is staying in power the worlds powers are betting on that route. That or a military coup.

a reply to: Discotech

Silly kid, the free food is for those in power not the pesky farmers...

American Imperialism.

We should end all sanctions and stop telling other countries how to behave or act.

you ask me it will make no difference,its sanctions after sanctions and makes no difference what so ever,still continue to do what they do. i.m actually bored of reading about it cause everytime its the same crap and nothing is really going to happen.

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: yuppa

Yes because the people deserve to suffer even more thanks to a combination of the West and the legacy of little kims.

Not to mention, all it would achieve is more hatred, North Korea is like a cult, they're all brainwashed to adore their leaders and their anger would turn towards those who enforce the embargo's

Look at what happened in the Middle East, you go in trying to "save" the people and the majority turn against you and the result is ISIS

Same thing would happen with North Korea

LOL ahahahahahaha!!! oh y a kiling me lol.

NO this i sthanks to CHina letting NK have its way too long starting with Kims father sith lord kim jong ill.
HUnger will sober up someone very quickly. The farmers will b e ok but th e ones in charge will be without food. their military will crumble into dissaray as they run out of rations. OH it would be glorious. Truly a sight to behold as canabalism spreads liek wildfire. truly their dear leader would make a good meal fo r his subjects dont you agree?

You ge t th e government you vote/and or let take over. they made their bed...now roast in it.

a reply to: yuppa

You're killing me too if you think they'll internally combust.

If you knew anything about N Korea you'd know there's already been famine there, more than once and the people never rebelled against the leadership.

Just look up konanŭi haenggun, before you start talking about starving them

If they get starved even more, because food isn't in great supply there now as it is, then they'll go on the attack and take food by force from the South Koreans

Well, it worked so well on Japan that the US caused the Pacific Theatre of WW2.

I do not trust the US Government and they have 1000s or Nukes.

This is a case of saying we can have as many as we want and you, you backwater mess of a country, you can't have any!

Keep pushing and see what happens.

You are giving the rulers in NK lots of PR ammo. They can blame anything on sanctions now and get their oddly educated people to get very annoyed at the US and the puppet regime in SK.

This is the US trying for yet another war.

What a mess this will be. The only country to benefit will be China.

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What kind of sanctions? What were they getting sent to begin with?

Enemy state? Send them nothing in the first place.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: ReadLeader

Sanctioning North Korea even more will only make little Kim hate the west even more

Sanctions obviously don't work, why can world leaders not attempt a different approach of more carrot and less stick, maybe if the West wasn't trying to impose what they deem is the right way to rule a nation, then leaders like Kim wouldn't be so full of hatred and resentment

Theres a simplier way. embargo all food and supplies going into NK. let the people starve and they will take out their leader themselves.

Sounds cruel and harsh but true story. And for all it's worth, it's the common people who suffer under sanctions anyway. The grand leaders and their minions maintain life as usual.

Sanctions should have been applied a long time ago. NOW they want to spank little Kim and put him to bed without his supper? Better late than never I guess. But after this much time of bad behavior and they're just now getting out the rod, how much discomfort will they really deliver?

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: yuppa

You're killing me too if you think they'll internally combust.

If you knew anything about N Korea you'd know there's already been famine there, more than once and the people never rebelled against the leadership.

Just look up konanŭi haenggun, before you start talking about starving them

If they get starved even more, because food isn't in great supply there now as it is, then they'll go on the attack and take food by force from the South Koreans

YEah i dlove to see them half starved and emancipated trying to cross the DMZ to die in the thousands. I think you give the current generation of NK people too much credit. Id bet you there are those who given th e chance would slit dea r leaders throat. The past does not always dictate the future.

ANd if they threatened nukes then the food would be destroyed and they would both die. A win win for the rest of the world as we can stop supporting both sides.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
American Imperialism.

We should end all sanctions and stop telling other countries how to behave or act.

You mean American, British, French, Chinese, Russian, Angolan, Egyptian, Japanese, Malaysian, New Zealand, Senegal, Spainish, Ukrainian, Uruguay, and Venezuelan imperialism. As the entire security council voted to do this. In fact not a single country on Earth except North Korea has not shown support for it.

a reply to: MrSpad

If the United States has it's name on it, it's pure evil in the minds of some folks, no matter how many other signatures are on it. After all, the bully state of the U.S. could just force everyone else to agree to the sanctions.

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: DBCowboy
American Imperialism.

We should end all sanctions and stop telling other countries how to behave or act.

You mean American, British, French, Chinese, Russian, Angolan, Egyptian, Japanese, Malaysian, New Zealand, Senegal, Spainish, Ukrainian, Uruguay, and Venezuelan imperialism. As the entire security council voted to do this. In fact not a single country on Earth except North Korea has not shown support for it.

If we're going to justify sanctions, then it should be done in a uniform manner.

What the western nation allow other country's to get away with, is disgusting.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: DBCowboy
American Imperialism.

We should end all sanctions and stop telling other countries how to behave or act.

You mean American, British, French, Chinese, Russian, Angolan, Egyptian, Japanese, Malaysian, New Zealand, Senegal, Spainish, Ukrainian, Uruguay, and Venezuelan imperialism. As the entire security council voted to do this. In fact not a single country on Earth except North Korea has not shown support for it.

If we're going to justify sanctions, then it should be done in a uniform manner.

What the western nation allow other country's to get away with, is disgusting.

Other countries don't routinely threaten it's neighbors with "Total Nuclear Annihilation".

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

No.

But other countries treat women like cattle and find it acceptable to rape young boys. I just wish we'd apply the same moral standard.