Fresno PD whistleblower, Activist Predicts Death, Says The Cops Killed Him

a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

How exactly is this from infowars?

You got any comments to add about the actual content or are you just attempting to derail the thread for some reason?

Did you even look at the source material?

originally posted by: Domo1To me it looks like a guy that's paranoid making a big deal out of nothing

I'm sure you're right, the guy probably set his home on fire and then stabbed himself to death just to make the Fresno Cops look bad. /sarcasm

Thanks for posting this Blackmarketeer, the guy wanted his death to be looked into and now maybe it will be, ATS gets a lot of traffic.

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
Is it just me, or is everyone else getting tired of all the threads making the front page, that were taken directly from the infowars.com site?

This topic isn't even posted on Infowars. So your complaint makes no sense. How I came to post this, if it's worth your time, is I still rely on RSS feeds from a large number of sites and search engine keywords. Guess that makes me not hip with the whole social media scene. If I find a topic that strikes me as particularly interesting or outrageous, I'll Google for the original source and then post that - I hate to rely on non-original sources. From there, I like to think the ATS members can make their own valid contributions to the subject at hand.

From the Fresno Bee;

A man who died in a central Fresno fire that police described as suspicious was identified as John Lang, 51.

The man had multiple stab wounds to his abdomen and upper back, authorities said.

The house fire occurred Wednesday at 648 North Van Ness Avenue, just north of Belmont Avenue. Fresno police reported the man’s body was found around 3:15 p.m. by Fresno firefighters inside the house.

I think that may rule out self-inflicted stab wounds.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer
There's a large contingency of posters on ATS lately who have had their minds filled up with anti-conspiracy propaganda to the point they won't even read a post or links anymore, just look for some low hanging fruit they can pick, leave their one liners behind them like so much dung on the trail, and move on. This allows them to fancy themselves as debunkers.
It's hard work, reading and thinking you know.

originally posted by: twitchy
a reply to: Blackmarketeer
There's a large contingency of posters on ATS lately who have had their minds filled up with anti-conspiracy propaganda to the point they won't even read a post or links anymore, just look for some low hanging fruit they can pick, leave their one liners behind them like so much dung on the trail, and move on. This allows them to fancy themselves as debunkers.
It's hard work, reading and thinking you know.

They have stars upon thars

This one i pulled from your previous post..

I'm sure you're right, the guy probably set his home on fire and then stabbed himself to death just to make the Fresno Cops look bad. /sarcasm

When its my time i will be sure to stab myself in the back....just to make it look a little more like it was my ex... or at least one of them....

I raise your sarcasm

a reply to: twitchy

Well it pays to be skeptical especially with more outlandish claims, but you have to keep an open mind about things as well. Some topics (ancient aliens, f'rinstance) invite a lot of crackpot authors who run a cottage-industry of peddling books to the gullible. But when it comes to a lone activist like John Lang, maybe keep an open mind about what was happening here, given he has some corroborating video evidence on his side and did die a suspicious death in a city rife with police corruption. Some of Lang's rants rambled and maybe are paranoid delusions, but think about how stress-inducing harassment can be, if you had to go through that you would probably mistake non-involved civilians as police stalkers too.

BTW to all, this was the web site Lang posted on his FB page with his letters to the feds and YT vids;
jodymurray.com

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It's rare these days that I actually laugh out loud on this forum, thanks for that. Where's Sylvester McMonkey McBean when you need him.


I've always wanted to tie wire around my neck, attach it to something solid and drive off at high speed in a car to decapitate myself like that Microbiolgist from Ft. Detrick(?) just to perpetuate conspiracy theories about my death.

originally posted by: SpunGCake
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I too am being targeted and its being done in a way that supposedly cant be proven. My 2 gaming computers have been hacked so I cant even update my computer after refromating and a fresh install of windows. My gps location dosent show up at my house but sometimes miles away. They have targeted me for along time and have no clue how to fight this. Sad to see him lose but i hear alot more is aloud in California.

I too recently was totally blindsided by police targeting and you'd all be surprised at how far it went and how terrifying it is since you can do little. As of now I've told my mother only who agrees keep quiet and probably sees the situation as more seriously violating than I do. But I'm afraid to even write this and may freak out and come erase but not knowing why or where it stems from I don't know what to do. I'm real active on conspiracy sites but keep rather silent. But even tho there's no mistake at what my day long ordeal of torture was as I'm innocent of anything and don't misbehave to draw attention and what do I do? All towns and counties are tight knit when it comes to cops. I almost jumped back home on a plane to Greece after that plus the other turn I've suffered at the hands of government. Don't mean to make it about me but just agreeing it is definitely a possibility and a common disease that comes with a badge.

a reply to: SpunGCake

Why are you being targetted?

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I saw someone post a comment, in your first link to the story, about being gangstalked in fresno. They said they had to move and remember hearing something about a childmolestor dying in a house that burnt down. Suggesting that gangstalkers try to frame child porn on the culprit.

Anyway, no idea if the facebook commenter is truthful. Thought it might be notable though.

When asked by Mac McCauley why he was being stalked he gave this answer:

Mac McCauley I simply voice my opinion regarding local government and politics on local blogs. I also discovered local law enforcement had been running a license plate scanning scam where Fresno Cops would scan license plates at Retail Store parking lots (Save Mart, Von’s, HomeDepot, etc.) in lower income neighborhoods. After collecting hits of violations they then would pull the unsuspecting drivers over a few blocks away from the store location in a marked police vehicle claiming they simply came across their vehicle through routine driving patrols. This unethical and possibly illegal activity was simply motivated by “profit” and unfairly targeted Fresno’s poorer residents.

I also discovered the Fresno Bee was sharing chat log data with Fresno Law Enforcement of Fresno citizens who were critical of local Fresno Government and Fresno Law Enforcement. Fresno Law Enforcement subsequently used the ip addresses in the chat logs provided by the Bee to track down, stalk, and harass those chat bloggers who were critical of local politics and local law enforcement.

Since publicly exposing these local law enforcement activities it’s been a constant onslaught of stalking, harassment, and intimidation directed toward myself from Fresno Law Enforcement. They even tried to set me up and plant false evidence in my home. I filed a request for an Internal Affairs Investigation and that seemed to enrage them even more. They are simply trying to destroy me by any means possible. I am in constant fear for my life. As Kevin Arial, a Face Book pseudonym and alias of a known local cop so eloquently posted to my Face Book page recently: “First rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club, You should know this Mr. Lang! ; D”. End quote..

I wondered why the Fresno Bee, which Lang supposedly contributed to, had barely even a blip about his death, but then recalled that Lang stated it was the Bee that divulged chat logs and IP addresses, at which point his harassment began.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

BlackM: here is John Lang's youtube channel - YOUTUBE: Lang Marine

In one of the videos, you see the undercover van named "Guarantee Carpet Care" and undercover cops entering the neighbor's home. The allegation was that they had told the neighbor's Lang was up to something "bad," like Child Porn, and they were conducting additional surveillance from their homes. Turns out some internet warriors decided to give "Guarantee Carpet Care" a Yelp review!

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

PS congrats I stopped posting on this site because of political shill posters, but this topic is outrageous and infuriating. I hope this gets a lot more exposure. The Fresno Bee must be terrified of the PD, they won't even touch this topic. It's a terrible day when papers in the UK can shine a light on Fresno police corruption, but not one local paper can be bothered.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I didn't know that, my bad. And as bad as people hate police these days, I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two give their lives to make them look corrupt.

I'd like point out that stabbing is very violent and personal way to kill someone.

This is something for which the militias ought to be activating.

And that crap with the water up in Flint.

And the garbage in Waco with the bikers.

And any of an almost endless list of blatant injustices by the literal powers that be.

How much worse will it get?

An interesting article appeared in the Washington Post a few weeks ago, showcasing Fresno PD's new state-of-the-art system for profiling and assigning "threat levels" of suspects, John Lang posted a couple comments to the article from his Disqus account:

The new way police are surveilling you: Calculating your threat ‘score’

TRESNO, Calif. — While officers raced to a recent 911 call about a man threatening his ex-girlfriend, a police operator in headquarters consulted software that scored the suspect’s potential for violence the way a bank might run a credit report.

The program scoured billions of data points, including arrest reports, property records, commercial databases, deep Web searches and the man’s social- media postings. It calculated his threat level as the highest of three color-coded scores: a bright red warning.

Talk about Orwellian. "social media postings?" "deep web searches?" So if you call the PD and they send someone out, and run your name through this type of system where maybe they find some social media comment you made that they don't like, are they going to treat you differently? Spoke out against police corruption - you get a threat level of red, boy.

The article features Fresno police chief that has garnered a lot of allegation of corruption and brutality (Jerry Dyer).

Lang posted his comments to that page on the 15th of this month (Jan 15 2016).

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I didn't know that, my bad. And as bad as people hate police these days, I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two give their lives to make them look corrupt.

This guys strikes me as a true activist pushing accountability and transparency.

At no point in this story did I get the feeling he was a cop hater that would violently commit suicide in order to prove a point. Like, stab yourself AND burn your house down? Wut?