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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 06:53 PM
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What good would any of this do?

news.investors.com...

"The latest fabrication involves the torching of a Houston mosque on Christmas Day. The arson was quickly seized on by the national media and Muslim-rights groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which demanded that police investigate it as a hate crime."

Even if they did not catch the guy what good would come of this?



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 06:59 PM
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I seriously doubt a "Muslim did it".

Who sets fire to their own home to get sympathy?

There is no sympathy for them, haven't they heard?


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posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:03 PM
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Who sets fire to their own home to get sympathy?



Seriously?
Who crashes airplanes in to buildings for profit? A group that has a global agenda will sacrifice a pawn to get to the queen.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: intrptrabcnews.go.com...

Looks like a member of that mosque did set the fire.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Why? Because zealots / activists often believe the "ends justifies the means". Some see what they want as so important that they convince themselves it is right to trick people or lie to them.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Information here:

Sorry CAIR: Christmas Day Mosque Fire In Houston Was Performed By A Devout Attendee

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: intrptr


Who sets fire to their own home to get sympathy?

Seriously?
Who crashes airplanes in to buildings for profit? A group that has a global agenda will sacrifice a pawn to get to the queen.

Heres your Global Agenda



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: intrptrabcnews.go.com...

Looks like a member of that mosque did set the fire.


We saw the same thing after Charleston when suddenly Black churches were the target.
Unfortunately for the media it wasn't a bunch of foaming at the mouth right-wingers who did it.
The kkk is a ghost now, probably couldn't fill a trailer park with the total membership yet they keep trying to pin these events on the right.
Desperate moves is what I'd call it.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:18 PM
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It's part of divide and conquer. The more confusion, the more fear the people are under.



As in Houston, the damage was self-inflicted by a member of the mosque. Police arrested Asif Mohammad Khan. They said that he was an admirer of Osama bin Laden.

-from the Op source

Yeah, I'm sure a genuine terrorist didn't know exactly who OBL was.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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So there are really not enough "hate" crimes against Muslims? What good would more " hate" crimes do for Muslims?



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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Because there is no profit in not being a victim. Victims and victimhood are where it's at.

The ends justify the means, and because they know there are plenty of people like yourself who refuse to believe anyone would victimize themselves. And because they also know there are plenty who would prefer to believe the worst of another group.


edit on 10-1-2016 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
What good would any of this do?

news.investors.com...

"The latest fabrication involves the torching of a Houston mosque on Christmas Day. The arson was quickly seized on by the national media and Muslim-rights groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which demanded that police investigate it as a hate crime."

Even if they did not catch the guy what good would come of this?



MORE from your source:



Federal authorities did investigate, and they collared a suspect. Sorry, CAIR, he's not a Muslim-hating Trump supporter. He's a Muslim.

Not only that, he's a longtime member of the damaged Islamic Society of Greater Houston mosque, where he prayed five times a day, seven days per week.

Last Christmas, a similar incident was reported at a mosque in Fresno, Calif.; and in a similar rush to judgment, the media joined Muslim groups in accusing anti-Islamic bigots for the vandalism of the Islamic Cultural Center there.

Only, it turned out that the incident was not an act of "Islamophobia" at all.

As in Houston, the damage was self-inflicted by a member of the mosque. Police arrested Asif Mohammad Khan. They said that he was an admirer of Osama bin Laden.



How awful that ANY people would do this for sympathy and to manufacture victimization.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:32 PM
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I don't refuse to believe they would do this, I don't understand what good it does them.
If they did it for the insurance money I would understand , that doesn't seem to be the case.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: ketsuko

I don't refuse to believe they would do this, I don't understand what good it does them.
If they did it for the insurance money I would understand , that doesn't seem to be the case.


Well, if they get caught it doesn't do them any good.

If they don't get caught, Obama can give a speech.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr


I seriously doubt a "Muslim did it".

Who sets fire to their own home to get sympathy?

There is no sympathy for them, haven't they heard?


That won't matter if there is a mindset to be honest. Here, if those individual cases have been evidentially seen as false flags...since that's what they are, there is no answer, nor does it mean that it is the MO pursued by all, as the link would..I have to say, like you to think. The media could help if they threw in the word allegedly sometimes, maybe they did, but you don't get anything on that, at least not in the OP's link. However a false flag is as common as jelly beans from any source. I dare say though most people wouldn't thank those false flaggers so much.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:47 PM
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Getting caught while perpetrating this series of false flags...now throws EVERY similar and future act into question.
It appears there is coordinated activity at work here.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: ketsuko

I don't refuse to believe they would do this, I don't understand what good it does them.
If they did it for the insurance money I would understand , that doesn't seem to be the case.


Are you ready for me to NOT be politically correct?

*TRIGGER WARNING*

There is a principle called taqqiya practiced by some sects of Islam that is taken to the position that they can lie to advance the cause of Islam. That is what this may be an attempt at. If this mosque is burned and the public at large perceives that a certain segment of US society has done so out of hatred for Muslims, it advances the impression that Muslims are nothing but innocent victims rather than a religious group that has a very real problem with a percentage murderous radicals in its ranks and an even large percentage of followers who sympathize with them.

If the American public is more worried that Muslims are prey instead of potential predators, then those who would be predatory within its ranks can continue to work toward their agenda unmolested aided by those who sympathize.

If the American public continues to keep its wary eye on Muslims as potential problems, then this agenda is hampered by heightened suspicion. Muslims who would move unhindered would rather the American public keep that wary eye on their neighbors than on Muslims.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
What good would any of this do?

news.investors.com...

"The latest fabrication involves the torching of a Houston mosque on Christmas Day. The arson was quickly seized on by the national media and Muslim-rights groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which demanded that police investigate it as a hate crime."

Even if they did not catch the guy what good would come of this?



Things like this are being done for promoting sympathy towards Muslims, and then Sharia law can be oozed on in much easier like a slime mold, until it colonizes the entire country, which is what the Obama administration has been hoping and planning for.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 08:32 PM
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Only one of those was found to be done by a black person. People do self harm or property destruction to make Muslims look bad too.

Stupid and sick either way.



posted on Jan, 10 2016 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr


I seriously doubt a "Muslim did it".

Who sets fire to their own home to get sympathy?

There is no sympathy for them, haven't they heard?


Oh i dont know maybe this could fit into that category:
The Reichstag Fire of 1933:
www.ushmm.org...


Though the origins of the fire are still unclear, in a propaganda maneuver, the coalition government (Nazis and the German Nationalist People's Party) blamed the Communists. They exploited the Reichstag fire to secure President von Hindenburg’s approval for an emergency decree, the Decree for the Protection of the People and the State of February 28. Popularly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, the regulations suspended the right to assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and other constitutional protections, including all restraints on police investigations.


Sure, it's a whole different story and all, but the similarities are striking once you start to compare the two.



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