Go on America, vote this clown in....I double dare ya.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: stevieray

You do realize it's bad form to edit other people's posts, into something you can more lazily mock, don't you ? Any site, any board.

Its also bad form to make history up or use half truths.

Scotland and wales can leave any time. It just there people keep voteing no to indepence. What are we meant to do ignore that vote and kick them out anyway?

Falklands was abandoned when the UK colonized it. And now 99% of people there in every vote we give them want to stay part of the UK. What are we meant to do ignore the vote and kick them out?

Every colony that voted to leave us we let go after WW2. No one is in the UK by force.

As for Slavery. It was never even started by us. The portugese started in. Britain never even used it in the form it took until the mid 1640, of course we had a identured servitude but it was not until 1640 when a AMERICAN court in Virginia set up the first official laws around slavery. So blame Virginia.

Take responsibility for your own historical dirty laundary.

Nobody can come close to England for sheer volume of colonization, apartheid, slavery, and indentured servitude.

No amount of 1500 words screeds by you can change this. Why keep trying ? Nobody's dense enough to make it worth your while.

The queen could make amends for all that nastiness by symbolically granted everybody their freedom from the crown. Yet they don't. I'd actually be fine with America doing the same type thing. Tell Puerto Rico and all the other random islands out there that we pay alimony to, that it's time to create their own economy and government. Apply to be an official state if that's your desire, but otherwise get off the US welfare.

a reply to: stevieray

Actually we have apoliged for slavery.

It was our PM that did it, our queen is not allowed to speak in public unless her speech is writtin by the PM. She is not a political enity and can not make political decsions.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: stevieray

LOL

the ACA is a success in blue states and struggling in red states, what does that tell you???

OH, just that the republican govs tried to derail Obama's plan to spread Medicaid (at the expense of American lives I might add).

Blame the rep. govs.

But, my question is to Obama...why the hell did you give them ANY play in your plan knowing they would do ANYTHING to bring you down.

You are one bumper sticker after the other. "Blame the reps." lol

So your solution to Obama's failures is that he should exclude the other 2 branches, and the states, from his utopian schemes ? Pen and phone and EO's as a government, eh ?

Your ramblings lack any serious, rational content.

a reply to: stevieray

Just bc you don't understand my "rambling" doesn't mean its not true. It just proves my theory that those who ridicule Obama do not know much about politics and even less about the ACA

and what is this rambling on about bumber stickers? I quit putting bumber stickers on my car when I was profiled as being a marijuana toting hippie for putting a bonnaroo sticker on my car.

Pretty much every politician on both sides of the coin are bought and paid for by large corporations or similar entities. If you cannot see that, I truly envy your ignorance. It must be such bliss.

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

Yes, I agree, that is what people who are not into politics say, I get it. It actually a given.

However, it is so painfully obvious that one side is way worse than they other.

Funny how Trump suggested he would do exactly what Putin is doing now in Syria blowing up ISIS controlled oil facilities.

a reply to: veracity

The side that produced Bush and Reagan, or the side that produced both of the Clintons?
I don't hate Obama. He was an improvement over Bush, though theoretically a Syphilis epidemic would be an improvement over Bush.

The political system needs to be nuked and rebuilt from the ground up, starting with actually following your constitution, ever.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: stevieray
, but he's also the antithesis to everybody's complaints about professional politicians, going into office poor and taking bribes to write laws, etc.

Yeah only because he was the one giving the bribes before.

God you really are buying his crap.

Up until a few years ago he was democrat and BFF with the Clintons. Hell he even employs illegals!

America, where an actual citizen or businessman can be president. Not somebody from, or a puppet of, Lords / Dukes / Earls.

Who would you vote for ? Just curious. Typically those who can't bring enough insults and tales about Trump, Carson, Cruz......tend to be slavish supporters of the true lunatics & criminals like Clinton, Sanders, Obama, Reid, Pelosi.

That anyone would think any of them are credible, is an instant dismissal of whatever rant they're bringing.

Don't tell us....you like the weakest, most ineffectual GOP guys.....Kasich, Jeb, etc.

originally posted by: stevieray

America, where an actual citizen or businessman can be president. Not somebody from, or a puppet of, Lords / Dukes / Earls.

Actually any can be PM here......

Hell you have more of a heredtary leadership than we do!

2 roosevelts

2 Bushes

And possibly 2 Clintons

All in the last century.

None of our PM's have been related and most are from common stock.

That still does not adress my point about Trump only a few years ago being a card carrying illegal hireing democrat who was best buds with the clintons. Yes anyone can be president even turns coats and political plants.

originally posted by: stevieray
Who would you vote for ? Just curious. Typically those who can't bring enough insults and tales about Trump, Carson, Cruz......tend to be slavish supporters of the true lunatics & criminals like Clinton, Sanders, Obama, Reid, Pelosi.

I told you Rand paul. Think its the secound time I said that.

I think his economic views, foreign policu and views on decentrlisation make a lot of sense.

Carson I would tolerate as a secound best but only because I would not want a Bush, Clinton or Trump and Sanders means well but he policys would not work in the USA.

originally posted by: stevieray
Don't tell us....you like the weakest, most ineffectual GOP guys.....Kasich, Jeb, etc.

No idea who Kasich is and god another Bush would be just as bad as a secound Clinton.

a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

What's wrong with the Clintons?

Many republicans can even agree that Bill was a great president (after the fact of course).

a reply to: stevieray

In fact no I take that back, not anyone can be president in the USA.

Thats just a official line they spin you to make the dumb masses warm and fuzzy.

Only those picked out by certain intrest groups can be president in the USA.

Hell probbaly the same here too. Though its less blatent as I have yet to see a Blair II or Thatcher III.

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
Pretty much every politician on both sides of the coin are bought and paid for by large corporations or similar entities. If you cannot see that, I truly envy your ignorance. It must be such bliss.

"They all do it" "All politicians lie" "Both sides are guilty" is always what gets trumpeted when the dems are down, or caught in something.

So of course it's being repeated every few minutes after 7 years of Obama and pals.

Trump and Carson are literally the only opportunities for any respite from the ingrained, endemic political class.

On the dem side, Jim Webb is the one with any possibility of validity. Hillary is one of the worst politicians and crooks ever in America, and Sanders is just an insane clown.

Cruz is a pro politician, but the only one whose values exceed his selfish actions.

America, where an actual citizen or businessman can be president. As long as they are from, or a puppet of, Banks / Corporations / Old Money.

There, now it's nice and accurate.

That anyone would think any of them are credible, is an instant dismissal of whatever rant they're bringing.

I promise you, there are just as many who think about the same about you. The instant dismissal of the rant, that is.

Trump and Carson are literally the only opportunities for any respite from the ingrained, endemic political class.

Trump, maybe. Almost definitely not, but maybe. Carson? HELL no. He is stark, raving, mad.
I want to send a letter to Trump saying "The thing you could do as President that would troll and shock the greatest number of people would be to do an amazing job of it. Don't worry about building walls, that'll just waste money. Cut down on military spending, total waste of money. You'll just look like you're overcompensating. Be a bit progressive. After all, progress is king. You know that, you're a business man. Science, science is where it's at, baby. Imagine it, the headlines in 2024: PRESIDENT Trump: SAVES the World. You'll be worshiped for centuries. "
I wonder how he'd actually respond to that?

Trump - Troll
H. Clinton - Shill
Carson - Total *@!#ing lunatic.
Jeb - A bush.
Bush Jr. - International laughingstock, committer of war crimes, etc.
Bush Sr. - CIA (pawn?)
Obama - Sellout
Sanders - ??? (Do not say Socialist because that is factually incorrect.)
Reagon - Ruined economy.
B. Clinton - Further ruined economy.

You guys really need to drop the partisan attitude. It isn't Red Vs. Blue, it's "American Citizens Vs. Everyone Who Wants to Screw and Exploit Them and their Country"
Every. Every politician. (Except Sanders, Ron Paul, a few others) is nestled quite firmly on the side of the fence that isn't "American Citizens."
The Democrats suck just as much as the Republicans. They may not be as openly insane, but they have screwed everything up just as much.

a reply to: stevieray

lol Cruz?

His beliefs are extreme, when your beliefs are extreme it does not count as exceeding selfishness.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn

What's wrong with the Clintons?

Many republicans can even agree that Bill was a great president (after the fact of course).

wow, you sure love the corrupt ones.

Bill Clinton was the most filthy, corrupt piece of garbage to ever grace the oval office. He literally shoved a girl his own daughter's age down on all fours, under the desk that Lincoln and Kennedy sat behind. Then he lied arrogantly and proudly to 250 million people's faces.

All the guy cared about was poontang, and getting credit for everything. He accepted Gingrich's world view just so he could take credit for the results.

He did get lucky to just be sitting their on his ass, for Gingrich's successful budgets, and the dotcom boom. He did however make the WTC disaster happen (forgot to care about the dry run or the next 6 years after it) and was too busy with Monica and 20 others to care about ending OBL.

A real all-star, lol.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: stevieray

lol Cruz?

His beliefs are extreme, when your beliefs are extreme it does not count as exceeding selfishness.

Extreme what ? Islam ? Socialism ? Please expound.

The dictionary doesn't define "extreme" as "what I don't approve of". It's got to actually be "extreme" something.

a reply to: stevieray

He also signed NAFTA, which is basically the reason all your jobs are being outsourced to China and India right now, and America has next to no production outside of weapons manufacturing (if that?)

a reply to: stevieray

TEAPARTY

a reply to: stevieray

Judging someone by their bedding preferences instead of what they did to better America is a sign of unintelligence.

I cannot converse with ignorant people.

sorry