WEAPONS CACHE Found Hidden at Swedish Migrant Center

No way! Is this really real? If so, this is pretty huge... Why wouldnt the guns be hidden better? Maybe they just recently got them and didnt have time to properly hide the weapons? Or maybe they were planning to use them soon...

There is also the possibility that they were planted. Maybe by a group who hates/fears the refugees and wants to make them look bad, and/or dangerous, or maybe by someone who would like to foment & promote further division between the refugees and citizens.

I hope we can get some more information on this soon and hopefully figure out what's happening.

a reply to: TechniXcality

Well, thanks to the west and their meddling in the Middle East this crisis has been created. But the facts are ordinary people are fleeing for their lives and now they face constant bigotry from every angle. Of course this kind of hate and propaganda is nothing new, Jews faced similar bigotry during their crisis.

Muslims live all over the world, even western countries, and they are doing just fine and melding with the communities around them.

a reply to: schadenfreude

Ha ha ha, your post makes me laugh. I would agree, blind indeed, blind with hate and ignorance.

What exactly are you protecting yourself from? Please elaborate.

a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

That explains why the gateway is using them as a source.

So what are your thoughts on this news article www.independent.co.uk... html I suppose this will be your truth won't it? Or is it truth or propaganda. Every time anyone sources anything that doesn't fit in with some people's ideals or beliefs it suddenly becomes far right, xenophobic, racist, muslim hating propaganda, its getting boring and tedious. What are your actual thoughts and beliefs on what is happening in Europe. How many do you think Europe should accept? Do you think there should be a limit on the amount of people coming into Europe? Do you think it is xenophobic for someone to say they don't believe they are all refugees, if so, why? All official documents say they are no all refugee so how is that xenophobic?a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

When people wants something so bad to be true, anything will do just as long as it gives something to the xenophobism..
Will a immigrant be a Swede in 30 years? Will their children born here be considered Swedes, Yes. This is about color and skin nothing else.

Its fear that creates monsters, not the other way around

a reply to: anxiouswens

Or maybe a spade is just a spade.

a reply to: TechniXcality

thx tech.

unreal.

how much more evidence do ppl need?

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: TechniXcality

Well, thanks to the west and their meddling in the Middle East this crisis has been created. But the facts are ordinary people are fleeing for their lives and now they face constant bigotry from every angle. Of course this kind of hate and propaganda is nothing new, Jews faced similar bigotry during their crisis.

Muslims live all over the world, even western countries, and they are doing just fine and melding with the communities around them.

Yes but place yourself there and with 350 tons of DU munitions in Iraq during the 1991 war, and 1,200 tons during its 2003 invasion. the country's rate of cancer cases was 40 out of 100,000 people. By 1995, it had increased to 800 out of 100,000 people, and, by 2005, it had doubled to at least 1,600 out of 100,000 people

www.truth-out.org...

Run Forest Run

originally posted by: anxiouswens
So what are your thoughts on this news article www.independent.co.uk... html I suppose this will be your truth won't it? Or is it truth or propaganda. Every time anyone sources anything that doesn't fit in with some people's ideals or beliefs it suddenly becomes far right, xenophobic, racist, muslim hating propaganda, its getting boring and tedious. What are your actual thoughts and beliefs on what is happening in Europe. How many do you think Europe should accept? Do you think there should be a limit on the amount of people coming into Europe? Do you think it is xenophobic for someone to say they don't believe they are all refugees, if so, why? All official documents say they are no all refugee so how is that xenophobic?a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

Can't read the news article ("page not found"), but from the title in the link I suppose I know what it is about.

As per your questions:

It is not that I dismiss any news or source just because it doesn't fit with my beliefs, but when a "source" (if you can even call it that) is KNOWN and PROVEN to be a xenophobic propaganda piece of excrement you should know better than to use that media to prove anything.

It's like using YouTube videos as "sources" for a scientific paper or something.

What my thoughts and beliefs about the whole refugee issues are ...?

Well, I assume it is true that not all of them are really refugees, as in "fleeing from war".

I have seen some of them who were clearly identified as people fighting for the Assad regime, then came to Europe and presented themselves as civilians fleeing the bad bad Assad.

Some of them are economic refugees.

Now, I myself was once a refugee. So, I am probably more qualified than you to talk about it. I really escaped persecution and it was NEVER IN MY MIND before that to even think about going to any western European country because they are "richt" or what not. I still love a single STONE in my country more than the whole of western Europe, and that is a fact.

Turning it the other way around: The time came when I also accepted and helped other refugees who were also fleeing persecution, and I would do it again, every single time, no matter who the refugees are, what belief they have or what skin color.

Regarding those who are only economic refugees ... do you really think the majority of them are happy about leaving their countries, maybe their families behind?
Do you think they had a great life there and just like that decided to go to Germany or Sweden?`

Absolutely not!

99.9% of people fleeing like that don't do it "just like that" but there comes a moment in their life when maybe they cannot even secure a piece of bread for their children.

Should we "not care" and leave them there to die?

Just because they have another religion, another culture than ours?



You keep saying that "how can Europe sustain so many refugees" as if we are talking about 100s of millions of refugees ... when, just to put it in perspective:

Some germans are complaining like this because a few hundred thousand of refugees came ---- in a country of over 82 MILLION people!

Turkey has 70 or so million people and over 2 MILLION refugees.

When there was war in Kosova, almost 1 million refugees fled to Albania - a country of merely 3 million people!!

We all helped them as much as we could, they lived with us, we shared our homes and our food.

Did we starve because of that?

No.


Now, of course as in every group of people, you might get one or two bad apples here and there, but is that a reason to accuse a whole community, or even (as some here did last night) to ADVOCATE the BURNING and killing of not only those refugees but of 2 BILLION muslims in general?!



What is wrong with you?

a reply to: Swills

Honestly? The engineered clash between the East & the West.

I didn't support the whole Bomb Iraq bs. It was 14 Saudis +5, not a single Iraqi.

I sure wasn't supporting killing Saddam. Was he evil? Hell yes, but he didn't die b/c he was evil, he died trying to get away from the petrodollar.

So did Qaddafi.

Now I see this engineered invasion into Europe, with refugees having weapons smuggled in to boot, I don't need a slide ruler to figure out where's this headed. And I don't believe most sane (read non-pc) need one either.

Clear enough?

To be perfectly blunt? Yes, I think we're behind ISIS.

a reply to: TechniXcality

Here's one I remember hearing about this a while ago I forget what the conclusion was..

Weapons from the States for the 'moderates'/ IS, shipping headed for Lebanon or something. Windy story.

And thanks for your other reply btw, I wholeheartedly agree.

Now it seems the local cops are denying it.

Source

When News Today verify this information, we learn that the police in Jämtland not know that such a weapons cache was found.

- I've heard rumors that abound in the media, but I have not heard any information about it from the right direction, says Östersund police duty officer Magnus Hamstig to News Today.

- I know nothing about it and I have not heard that anyone has heard anything about it here in the house.

Neither the Security Police claim to know the information about the arms cache on asylum accommodation.

January Sjunnesson, the Avpixlat profile who wrote the article, however, on when Free Times calling him.

- I have good sources but can not say what kind of source it is. There are people who saw the guns in front of their own eyes, he says.

Now I guess its upto who you want to believe. smh

originally posted by: sHuRuLuNi

originally posted by: anxiouswens
So what are your thoughts on this news article www.independent.co.uk... html I suppose this will be your truth won't it? Or is it truth or propaganda. Every time anyone sources anything that doesn't fit in with some people's ideals or beliefs it suddenly becomes far right, xenophobic, racist, muslim hating propaganda, its getting boring and tedious. What are your actual thoughts and beliefs on what is happening in Europe. How many do you think Europe should accept? Do you think there should be a limit on the amount of people coming into Europe? Do you think it is xenophobic for someone to say they don't believe they are all refugees, if so, why? All official documents say they are no all refugee so how is that xenophobic?a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

I really escaped persecution and it was NEVER IN MY MIND before that to even think about going to any western European country because they are "richt" or what not. I still love a single STONE in my country more than the whole of western Europe, and that is a fact.

Alright what's in bold please speak to, and explain further because this is a highly offensive statement, and extremely concerning. I am trying to make it a reasonable statement, but basically what you are saying is you sought refuge and were helped, but a single stone in your country you love more than those who have helped you and sheltered you. This right here is a dangerous sentiment, so correct me if i am wrong but i am tempted to go off on you.

originally posted by: TechniXcality




so correct me if i am wrong but i am tempted to go off on you.

Yes, you are wrong.

I am grateful to all those who helped me but I still love MY COUNTRY where I was born more than any other country in the world.
As in: I do not care about riches and money, I value a simple life, so even a simple stone in my country is more valuable to me than all the riches in other countries.

a reply to: schadenfreude

It's all BS from right wing bigots?

Shocking is shocking.

a reply to: stormbringer1701

Being a hunter myself I agree...I'm still partial to my .30 .30 but your information is correct. Doesn't mean we need to further regulate however...not that you're implying that.

a reply to: TechniXcality


Sleep bro sssslllllllleeeeep

a reply to: schadenfreude

Couldn't say it better myself. You are one of few lucid enough to see the truth.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: schadenfreude

It's all BS from right wing bigots?

Shocking is shocking.

I haven't seen anyone debunk the Greece story yet.

Oh, and you're welcome for the update.