Germany in a state of SIEGE

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Was just looking at this issue
facebook censorship

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
OOOOOO,this one is a DEAD giveaway...swedishsurveyor.com...

I had not seen that yet. Yes, that is pretty much cat-out-of-the-bag stuff.

The two women who were kicked out of their own homes to make way for refugees was also a real eye opener. This is shameful and needs to stop. If it is happening in Germany, and of course there are those who will continually say it isn't, there is a very real possibility that it will happen here in the US too. We all know how open and honest the media is here. I have no doubt whatsoever that refugee violence will be minimized if addressed at all.

Good find.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Apparently it has come to light that the 2 women were behind in their rent, so I suppose that has some bearing as they weren't kicked out directly to be replaced with refugees but as a result of long term rent arrears

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: cavtrooper7

Was just looking at this issue
facebook censorship

Another great find.

The problem here is what if the people looking for so-called hate speech use the same interpretation as the haters and deniers on this thread? In other words, if you disagree with them you are a xenophobe hater. Honesty and observation go out the window and get replaced by passive pablum meant to appease uninformed masses.

This is just wrong no mater how you look at it.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: Vroomfondel

Apparently it has come to light that the 2 women were behind in their rent, so I suppose that has some bearing as they weren't kicked out directly to be replaced with refugees but as a result of long term rent arrears

I didn't know about the rent. But that makes me wonder....if they were behind on their rent it would follow to reason that earning a living wage may not be that incredibly easy there. And now there are a million more people fighting for jobs. Yeah, I can see why they think that will help the situation....

a reply to: Vroomfondel

I know the unemployment rate in former East Germany is high, and the population low which is why I think Merkel agreed to open the doors in the first place

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
OOOOOO,this one is a DEAD giveaway...swedishsurveyor.com...

Jesus Christ, they're really just completely unashamed with this crap now. Unbelievable.

a reply to: 8675309jenny

Now you know why we combat vets in America are so down on socialism.
Here we see a supposedly moderate govt using a harliner to censor the net.
Iwounder how far they'll take it now that they are coming to crisis?

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: 8675309jenny

Now you know why we combat vets in America are so down on socialism.
Here we see a supposedly moderate govt using a harliner to censor the net.
Iwounder how far they'll take it now that they are coming to crisis?

Drastic times call for drastic measures. Its unfortunate they the drastic times were brought about intentionally. I am really starting to wonder whether there was some plan ahead of time or if this really is unfolding as we see it. I hate to think it is, but its getting hard to deny.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: 8675309jenny

Now you know why we combat vets in America are so down on socialism.
Here we see a supposedly moderate govt using a harliner to censor the net.
Iwounder how far they'll take it now that they are coming to crisis?

Drastic times call for drastic measures. Its unfortunate they the drastic times were brought about intentionally. I am really starting to wonder whether there was some plan ahead of time or if this really is unfolding as we see it. I hate to think it is, but its getting hard to deny.

In this modern era, honestly; NOTHING is done by a government without massive forethought and planning.

The current era of how these things are played traces directly back to the end of WW1 and England's massive push for the creation of Israel.

NOTHING, is reactionary anymore, especially after the 1950's.

originally posted by: 8675309jenny

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: 8675309jenny

Now you know why we combat vets in America are so down on socialism.
Here we see a supposedly moderate govt using a harliner to censor the net.
Iwounder how far they'll take it now that they are coming to crisis?

Drastic times call for drastic measures. Its unfortunate they the drastic times were brought about intentionally. I am really starting to wonder whether there was some plan ahead of time or if this really is unfolding as we see it. I hate to think it is, but its getting hard to deny.

In this modern era, honestly; NOTHING is done by a government without massive forethought and planning.

The current era of how these things are played traces directly back to the end of WW1 and England's massive push for the creation of Israel.

NOTHING, is reactionary anymore, especially after the 1950's.

You make a valid point. It is unlikely that the general public are step for step with the PTB on any of this. But it is uncomfortable to think things of such fiendish nature are "going according to plan". It is an unsavory truth I am afraid we must accept.

Well said! a reply to: Vroomfondel

Fun in Sweden too..www.gatestoneinstitute.org...

Good thing THEY have guns...

Unofficial information about refugee crisis in germany.

I will not present the source of this information i got first hand from a person which is a highly ranked execituve in germany. You need to verify this with your own thoughts and doubts. What i will tell you is alerting. I am german by myself, so sorry for my english.

1. A faked syrian passport ID can be bought in turkey for 600 €. Many emigrants right now are fakes. No one knows the exact numbers. There are not enough resources for investigations as like every resource regarding the crisis, everything is overstretched. Managing refugees is also not in the direct responsibilities of the police office, but in the emigrant office.
My source things that a maximum of 50% of the refugees are real. There rest wear fake ID and are mainly from Balkan. This information is not official.

2. As a refugee it is impossible for you to have money at hand when traveling over the routes. The risk of getting robbed is very high and everyone knows that. Smuggler organisations will borrow you the costs for their service and faked passport IDs and keep in touch with the fake refugees like a Mafia organisation. The participants will need to pay their lend money back to the organisation. The smugglers keep excessive track of the  refugees via smartphones and cellphones. This information is not official.

3. In reaction to the crisis the German law changed on first of October and refugees won't receive money but physical goods mainly for their living. This information is official.

4. In areas around refugee camps and buildings the illegal activities recognised by the police grows significantly. this information is not official.

5. 70% of the refugees are men. This information is official. When I personally see refugees every evening in the trainstation it feels more like 95%. I never saw a whole family. Never! I see groups of young men.

My personal observations are: You only see the refugee women, kids and families and we'll educated academic refugees in TV and in the newspapers but that's simply an extreme distortion of the average. You also get told that only the well educated are able to spend the costs for the smugglers while my source clearly said this is not the primary business model.

There is a big successfully "campain" going on where german celebrities in TV and in the social networks for "refugees welcome". I call it an campaign because I work in media by myself and know the mechanics I can recognize it. A key indicator is the activity of celebrities. Also even when the crisis startend in the early days. Intensive pictures of anti-refugee German protestors where spread over the net and branded as neonazi activity. The worse you can do here, and as a negative example that you will be branded too if you say anything negatively. What makes me wondering is the early timing of the events. What is happening and what you shall thinking. When you say anything differently you will get branded as a Nazi very quikly. I have seen people on Facebook speaking out the fears about the crisis only to get bashed intensively by everyone. There is no differentiate discussion going on. This crisis is not about refugees.

This all calls for many questions.

a reply to: swarm303

I have seen reports that echo your sentiments. I have posted incidents where people were caught using fake papers and were actually tied to a terrorist group who specializes in smuggling radicalized people into target countries. Anyone who still thinks this is about women and children trying to escape war is crazy. It is about so very much more and the sad part is we will never know exactly how bad the problem is. But we will see the effects of it for many years to come. And not just in Germany. It is happening all over, including here in the US. Our wonderful president is actually spending $4.5 Billion dollars bringing so-called refugees here.

$4.5 Billion dollars would get every one of our 50,000 homeless veterans a home.

Thank you mr president. Your loyalties are quite clear.

Anyone who still thinks this is about women and children trying to escape war is crazy. It is about so very much more and the sad part is we will never know exactly how bad the problem is. But we will see the effects of it for many years to come. And not just in Germany. It is happening all over, including here in the US.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

And not just Germany and the US. This is an issue that is global, and I hate to say it, but I think it is contrived and part of some insidious plan.

We have such short memories and are so easily manipulated. ATS is a prefect barometer. Every couple of days it is a new blistering issue, and everyone running to be the first to post, and to rack up their stars and flags. It is never about finding the truth. It is about fighting and pushing 'their' agenda.

We are pawns people and they can't play this game without us willing participants. Jade Helm, BLM, WLM, ALM, Rebirth of the KKK/ Neo Nazis, Mass invasion of refugees, Syria, Russia, China, Sharia usurping individual rights. Keep them busy. Keep them inflamed. Why? If we don't change our ways soon, The Hunger Games, will not be just for our entertainment. We have the perfect venue for listening and learning. I encourage people to stop looking at the trees.

Every time they plant a tree, they scream for you to come look at this monster tree they planted. Everyone comes running, and the bickering and the fighting begins. The tree lovers against the tree haters. While you are so busy fighting over the damn tree, you never fight the real enemy, the one who is planting the trees.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, they are busy planting more and more trees, until it is impossible to see anything thing else. I think we would be better served if we step back and take a panoramic view of the landscape. Check out the forests they are locking you into, and maybe use your vantage points to see what is really going on.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Anyone who still thinks this is about women and children trying to escape war is crazy. It is about so very much more and the sad part is we will never know exactly how bad the problem is. But we will see the effects of it for many years to come. And not just in Germany. It is happening all over, including here in the US.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

And not just Germany and the US. This is an issue that is global, and I hate to say it, but I think it is contrived and part of some insidious plan.

We have such short memories and are so easily manipulated. ATS is a prefect barometer. Every couple of days it is a new blistering issue, and everyone running to be the first to post, and to rack up their stars and flags. It is never about finding the truth. It is about fighting and pushing 'their' agenda.

We are pawns people and they can't play this game without us willing participants. Jade Helm, BLM, WLM, ALM, Rebirth of the KKK/ Neo Nazis, Mass invasion of refugees, Syria, Russia, China, Sharia usurping individual rights. Keep them busy. Keep them inflamed. Why? If we don't change our ways soon, The Hunger Games, will not be just for our entertainment. We have the perfect venue for listening and learning. I encourage people to stop looking at the trees.

Every time they plant a tree, they scream for you to come look at this monster tree they planted. Everyone comes running, and the bickering and the fighting begins. The tree lovers against the tree haters. While you are so busy fighting over the damn tree, you never fight the real enemy, the one who is planting the trees.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, they are busy planting more and more trees, until it is impossible to see anything thing else. I think we would be better served if we step back and take a panoramic view of the landscape. Check out the forests they are locking you into, and maybe use your vantage points to see what is really going on.

I came to the same conclusion. This is part of a much larger plan. NWO.

It struck me as odd that so many countries would willingly import potential terrorists when they have allegedly been trying so hard to keep them out. Look at the number of countries these people are being sent to and the number of cities within those countries. Look at the numbers. It doesn't add up at all. The PTB have to know that the people they are shipping all over the world are not from Syria. The refugee scam is a bust now. It doesn't matter how many pictures they put on the news about crying women and hungry babies. The masses are not women and children, they are adult males.

For years governments have tried to unite against a common foe but it hasn't worked. There were always those who would stand aside and let the more aggressive war machines handle it. Think about which countries those are. And the PTB have an answer for them. Fine, you wont come to our party - we will bring the party to you.

It wont be long before we start hearing the PTB talking about how we 'all' face a common threat and 'we all need to work together to fight this common foe.' 'There are no borders in this issue...'

When you hear that, its time to bug out...

Things are heating up...first comes the legal battles...then the real battles...

Bavarian Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann spoke of a "massive, uncontrolled influx" that he said had pushed the state to the brink. "We agreed that if the federal government does not take effective steps soon to limit the continued flow of asylum seekers ... Bavaria reserves the right to file a complaint with the Constitutional Court," Herrmann said.

Bavaria threatens to take German government to court

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Fine, you wont come to our party - we will bring the party to you. It wont be long before we start hearing the PTB talking about how we 'all' face a common threat and 'we all need to work together to fight this common foe.' 'There are no borders in this issue...' When you hear that, its time to bug out...

That is exactly my point.

Most of us know, even if we were educated under a Common Core ed system, that when 2+2 doesn't equal 4, even if accepted as a successful attempt to solve the problem, the answer is not right. We all know something is not right.

Before we throw in the towel and run for the hills, why don't we start using this internet for something that really benefits us, and stop allowing ourselves to be used as distribution nodes for the delivery of their destructive data packets?

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Bug out????? Really! Like where? Because the NWO, and who knows who is really behind it anymore, will be Islamic controlled. Our whole countries dynamics could WILL change. All property will belong to the government. Anyone out of bounds will be imprisoned. Seriously, 1984 people. We were ALL sold down the river by our governments, all in the name of humanitarianism. But in reality because of our greed of OIL! Unless you know of an unknown cave, island, hurumph!