Drug Goes From $13.50 a Tablet to $750, Overnight. More increases to come!

originally posted by: muse7
What are you going to do about it? You don't want to get the government involved, you're not a socialist are you?

The government is already involved.

I am a socialist.

I really don't consider the governing bodies a true government. It's more like another corporation.

(I'm sorry I have to clarify, but I get your sarcasm)

a reply to: strongfp

Rattlesnake anti-venom has increased to $200,000 for treatment.

U-500 insulin for diabetics has increased from $250 per 20ml bottle to $1,350 over the past 6 months.

a reply to: muse7

Prescription prices were decreasing in the 4 or 5 years prior to the ACA being proposed.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
It just goes to show you that even a 60 year old drug can still be profitable long after the initial investment, R&D and marketing have been recouped.

This is why I don't believe the myth that big pharma suppresses drugs for autism, cancer and AIDS. There are plenty of ways that big pharma can manipulate the supply and price of such drugs (as in this case) in order to keep reaping profits for decades upon decades.

It helps though -- believing that magical cures are somehow secreted away in labs under the guise of profit than the actual cold, hard reality: the are no magic bullets...yet.

Hell, even aspirin that is out of patent still is a cash cow for pharmaceutical companies.

I've had two family members who've had cancer, and the cocktales they were forced to purchase were about 500$ per bottle a month, and did absolutely nothing. My aunt still bled from her eyes and died. Cancer is highly profitable from the people with money to spend, that's not even counting the other treatments. The irony, is that once she was told she had cancer and started treatments almost over night she started deteriorating rapidly.

My other family member used stuff that costed no more than 150$ and was given a few months to live, after he began using said stuff--stuff that's illegal in USA--the doctor asked him if he'd been taking other things he wasn't prescribed, my family member said yes, and the doctor promptly said: "I don't want to hear about it, but I'm glad you're cancer free."

It's a scam and always will be a scam.

The real money in pharmaceuticals is Pain Medicine. They get opiates dirt cheap from Mideast countries and have 87% of Americans addicted to them in some way, and that's not counting the uncounted street addicts.

And.....these are the same greedy cock-bags that are shooting up our children with vaccines.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

As the original post states, this practice isn't new. Of course it doesn't make sense that big pharma would "hide" cures under the pretense of some sort of economic benefit. Reasonable people have known and understood this for some time.

a reply to: gentledissident

I am a socialist now too. My tax money going to support a war with allies that are evildoers, and a tax structure that is government welfare for this arrogant little.....

Taxing him 90% would be about right. GO BERNIE!

originally posted by: gentledissident

originally posted by: muse7
What are you going to do about it? You don't want to get the government involved, you're not a socialist are you?

The government is already involved.

I am a socialist.

I really don't consider the governing bodies a true government. It's more like another corporation.

Your last statement probably sums up why you're a socialist. So you believe if the corporations are going to control the government then you might as well suck as much socialist policies out of them as possible. This is a flawed mentality. Why not fix the source of the problem and make it so corporations can't put their hands in politics? Socialism used as a Band-Aid to protect oneself from an out of control government will only lead to, bankruptcy, hyperinflation, and most likely either communism or some form of all out dictatorship. (Nazism) Causing the value of a nations currency to crash is not a good policy and that's what would happen with more socialism and government spending. What needs to happen is smaller government, less military industrial complex, and lower corporate taxes, to re-establish a production based economy in America and make the dollar strong again, which in turn lowers the cost of goods.

So how much is this guy making from the attention he's gaining from his actions? Also looking at some of his twitter and other accounts looks like he likes attention, so I'm sure that's not hurting his feelings any even if it's negitave attention, at least in the public eyes.

originally posted by: libertytoall
Your last statement probably sums up why you're a socialist. So you believe if the corporations are going to control the government then you might as well suck as much socialist policies out of them as possible.

No, I'm a socialist because I believe housing, food, water, education, and medical should be available to all without a struggle. I'm a socialist because I believe in the honesty and efficiency of cooperation. We could be working far less hours with far less toil. Our technology could be amazing without the withholding of information that even occurs internally due to competition. Competition seems childish to me. It is best left to the field of entertainment.

I'm a capitalist when it comes to trinkets. If you want to make something nonessential, I might trade for it if it takes my mind off of death.

a reply to: infolurker

I say fight fire with fire! These big drug companies love to skirt around the law, the bigger the loop hole the better! Illegal disgner drugs are available today in mass due to many of these loop holes concerning drug production based on chemical composition not effects.

One wonders why these very same loop holes arnt exploited in the name of cheap acceccable medication for all, by a simple label change or compound change.

www.drugrehab.us...

a reply to: pavil

The company itself is stopping another company from creating generics by controlling the drug's distribution, making it harder for another company to get the samples they need to create an alternate. Eventually this will happen, but the company can make quite a bit of money for awhile. Pretty sickening practice IMHO.

originally posted by: gentledissident

originally posted by: libertytoall
Your last statement probably sums up why you're a socialist. So you believe if the corporations are going to control the government then you might as well suck as much socialist policies out of them as possible.

No, I'm a socialist because I believe housing, food, water, education, and medical should be available to all without a struggle. I'm a socialist because I believe in the honesty and efficiency of cooperation. We could be working far less hours with far less toil. Our technology could be amazing without the withholding of information that even occurs internally due to competition. Competition seems childish to me. It is best left to the field of entertainment.

I'm a capitalist when it comes to trinkets. If you want to make something nonessential, I might trade for it if it takes my mind off of death.

you believe housing, food, water, education, and medical should be available to all without struggle but who's going to pay for it all? Please tell me why all those things should be a god given right? Competition is a natural way. People striving for success is healthy.

Lemme know when everyone gives up their materialistic lifestyles.

This is so incredibly sad. To see someone putting a price on life just, IDK, makes me hurt inside. I remember seeing something on our local news (Kansas City, can't find the news article/video now or I'd link it) of this older woman who had to keep taking these pills to combat against some illness. Part of me wants to say it was a form of leukemia but I'm not sure if there are pills out there for such an illness so please correct me if you know what it could be! Anyway, she had to quite her job and being just 60 when the illness stopped her in her tracks cut off her retirement pension. So she didn't have as much to live on anyway, let alone the thousands of dollars needed for a month's supply of the live-saving drug. I remember her saying that she felt like nobody cared about her now that she was not a productive member of society and that they didn't care if she lived or died. Nobody should ever feel like their life is not important enough to stay alive. Nobody.

a reply to: infolurker

Perhaps if we kept a registry of toxoplasmosis and malaria sufferers who could not afford the medicine and all subsequent medical, funeral and legal costs could be recovered by suing the drug company as a class action.

I imagine that the threat of such would give the drug company reason to reconsider their pricing.

a reply to: infolurker

This has gone viral on my Facebook, and I've been reading up on it.

I don't know yet, I'm going to have to wait for more facts
to come out, but I have a real strong hunch that this guy does
not intend to make a profit because what Insurance companies are going to
pay the price he's asking for?

I have a hunch that this guy is a religious nut job that hates gay people
and this is his way for retaliating against the Supreme Court ruling.

So, if true (and I don't know it is but I have my suspicions) then this is
an insidious attempt to try and hurt people with AIDS which he assumes
is mostly gay people, but he must also hate black people because the
highest incidence of AIDS is among black heterosexuals, and he must also hate
Africans because something like 2 out of 3 people including children in Africa have
HIV.

In addition, it is Africans I suspect that this would most effect,
since it is the African continent that has the highest incidences of AIDS and
would be the most likely place where people would develop this condition and
need the drug.

So, again, I am not saying he's an evil religious wacko nut job whose trying
to hurt maybe even kill people, but that's my initial suspicion after following
this story for several days now.

Rebel 5

He's living the capitalist dream. He has a captive customer base with a product that people don't just really want it. They need it to stay alive, they literally demand it. His production costs are rock bottom. And he can exploit the market to its full advantage with his control of the supply and the artificial monopoly granted by the government (thus completely breaking the model of capitalism).

KARMA for this man, please...

a reply to: infolurker

This is deplorable
Should be illegal

originally posted by: libertytoall
you believe housing, food, water, education, and medical should be available to all without struggle but who's going to pay for it all? Please tell me why all those things should be a god given right? Competition is a natural way. People striving for success is healthy.

To build a stronger more stable society with the opportunity for everyone within it to succeed. Everyone pays a minor cost the same as you do now when you pay a minor cost for roads, bridges, dams, street lamps etc. Everyone pays a minor cost and everyone benefits. As for the medical the same goes there as well. When you need it, it's there and when you don't some one else does.

You still have competition in many other areas as it's just the foundation of living which is provided. Food, Water, Shelter, Education, Health. As one of the richest most powerful and capable nations on the planet is it not a good idea to educate your the people as well as provide for their health??? Either you are a part of a society or you're not.

You should be allowed to choose of course as it's not right nor functional when forced to comply. But if you choose to be part of a team you must do your part. If you choose to make it on your own then so be it. Best of luck to you.

originally posted by: libertytoall
you believe housing, food, water, education, and medical should be available to all without struggle but who's going to pay for it all? Please tell me why all those things should be a god given right? Competition is a natural way. People striving for success is healthy.

1. Pay for it? You're thinking like a capitalist.
2. There is no god.
3. I think cooperation is natural.
4. I think cooperation is healthy.

That's it. We've developed 2 different mindsets that are at odds with each other. I don't expect you to give up anything. It is I who will have to make sacrifices to even get close to the world I want to live in. So, no worries.