Arctic Death Spiral and the Methane Time Bomb

Not sure if anyone has brought this up but it seems we are heading into a cyclic cooling period for the Atlantic ocean that will mean is decrease in global temperatures for the next few decades.


Add a future grand minimum and a couple of volcano's and we are back in a ice age... At any point volcano's start erupting that will be the end to global warming for a good while.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I was once on board that was exactly what was happening and it still may.

Only thing is while everyone cries out Global Warming and President goes to speak about global warming in the area... they (Arctic Council/observers) are having ice breaking expeditions left and right.

Who knows what that will do.

When we interfere with natural cycles what happens? Will the Planet reject what we are doing and just make more ice even though we are aiding the melt?

The species there are in grave danger imo.

originally posted by: MamaJ

The species there are in grave danger imo.

This is the one truism in all the posts here. Whether humans are a big factor or small there is climate change coming. The other side and more dangerous is that there is just too many humans on the planet. We are eating the oceans bare and destroying habitats as we advance in population. There is a very real danger that a large amount of species on this planet will become extinct in the very near future. Right now there is nothing we can do but ride the wave and see if we can come out at the end intact. Below are somethings that will help us out in the next 100 years but boy we are on a knife edge right now to the worlds population of animals.

1. Reduction in population, 1st world countries are already seeing this as they realize having kids has gone from a benefit to a large cost. India has taken over from China as the most populated country as even China works on zero population growth. Also advance birth control will most likely come of age where having a child may well become a privilege not a right in the next 50 years.

2. Energy Technology, as the car saved us from the horse (was a huge environmental disaster before the car came along) so will the next tech ( advance batteries?) save us from the car. I think we already peaked in pollution and from now forward it will be less and less as other techs take over.

As to mother earth...she don't give a crap one way or the other. Species come and go all the time, sometimes in huge events. Earth is large and can over come humans in an instant. 3 or 4 big volcano in a very short period of time would send us into an ice age no matter how large our carbon foot print is. In 50 million years all life on this planet will be completely changed to something else and earth will be a measly 50 million years older...hehe

a reply to: Xtrozero

It's sad, we are a product of nature, we are a product from many many many generations of people who survived and lived from this eco/nature system. Also all the other species.
When looking at dolphins (example), they are an almost perfected species shaped in millions and millions of years, as we are but the dolphins have zero impact on our lives, we on the other hand...
We should be ashamed so badly when dolphins would not to be found in the oceans anymore which could become a reality in not such distant future. I know other species are in greater danger then dolphins right now but just giving an example.